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Old Mar 20th, 2014, 06:07 AM   5191
Jelly84
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2moms2be: thanks for your post! It's so odd isn't it. B6 made my spotting worse ...I'll know this month is the vitex does. I'm not seeing as much fertile cm as usual which is a worrying sign on it though...If the vitex makes my spotting worse (which I'm half expecting), then 2 vitamins which are meant to help increase progesterone levels (in a round about way) make things worse - could it be that in fact progesterone is too high? Thinking about it this could make sense as my spotting arrives circa day 21 (or the day or 2 before) which is when progesterone is at it's highest in the cycle. It might be a coincidence but what if it's actually the progesterone level which is too high? Not even sure if that can happen but it would explain why progesterone boosting vitamins seem to make things worse. I've googled too high progesterone but the symptoms (tender breasts in 2ww etc) are pretty much the same as estrogen dominance so it's hard to tell. When I first went to acupuncture, the guy said he thought I had too much 'heat' in my body from feeling my pulse and looking at my bbt charts and obviously it's progesterone which is the warming hormone....Something else to research I guess!

Dr Co: Let us know how you get on with your further blood tests. Thanks for the info on brown blood - so it's coming out slowly hence the spotting and the colour....Glad you are back horse riding. I go running and for months tried to go easy with it in case but I've realised I've been at this so long that I need my exercise to keep me sane!

Buninmyoven: Any news ? X

CD14 for me. Not seen a postivie opk yet but I have trouble with those as I drink loads of liquid throughout the day so rarely use them properly! My temps are pre ov, expecting it today or tomorrow. Interested to see if there is any difference after using the vitex (plus pregnacare concep, oil of evening primrose and magnesium)!!

Good luck everyone XXX



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Old Mar 20th, 2014, 08:22 AM   5192
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2moms2be: thanks for your post! It's so odd isn't it. B6 made my spotting worse ...I'll know this month is the vitex does. I'm not seeing as much fertile cm as usual which is a worrying sign on it though...If the vitex makes my spotting worse (which I'm half expecting), then 2 vitamins which are meant to help increase progesterone levels (in a round about way) make things worse - could it be that in fact progesterone is too high? Thinking about it this could make sense as my spotting arrives circa day 21 (or the day or 2 before) which is when progesterone is at it's highest in the cycle. It might be a coincidence but what if it's actually the progesterone level which is too high? Not even sure if that can happen but it would explain why progesterone boosting vitamins seem to make things worse. I've googled too high progesterone but the symptoms (tender breasts in 2ww etc) are pretty much the same as estrogen dominance so it's hard to tell. When I first went to acupuncture, the guy said he thought I had too much 'heat' in my body from feeling my pulse and looking at my bbt charts and obviously it's progesterone which is the warming hormone....Something else to research I guess!

Dr Co: Let us know how you get on with your further blood tests. Thanks for the info on brown blood - so it's coming out slowly hence the spotting and the colour....Glad you are back horse riding. I go running and for months tried to go easy with it in case but I've realised I've been at this so long that I need my exercise to keep me sane!

Buninmyoven: Any news ? X

CD14 for me. Not seen a postivie opk yet but I have trouble with those as I drink loads of liquid throughout the day so rarely use them properly! My temps are pre ov, expecting it today or tomorrow. Interested to see if there is any difference after using the vitex (plus pregnacare concep, oil of evening primrose and magnesium)!!

Good luck everyone XXX
I noticed you are taking pregnacare conception ...
my doctor after the hsg wanted to put me on a multivitamin so he prescribed to me pregnacare original ( not the conception ones) when going to the pharmacy and saw there are the conception pills also which suited me best i thought he made a mistake and bought them
when calling his assistant who is a nurse she said they get this call from their patients all the time!(thats why he gives the ORIGINAL pills)
Anyway they had many claims from women that the pregnacare conception pills messed up their cycle and made the ovulation occur later in cycle even to the ones that never issued a problem with their cycle!
So thats the reason why they give the pregnacare original tablets
I found it weird so i also searched online about this issue(cause i had already paid them and took 2-3 pills so i wanted to give them a try)
I googled in greek google didnt find anything related well we are not so used to take multivitamins here ...when googled this issue in english i found hundreds of threads of women who had problem with pregnacare conception vitamins!!!!!
So i instantly stopped them and bought the pregnacare original
I dont know about your case maybe you already take them for a while and you have gotten used to so you have an on time ovulation but if this bis not the case i suggest you take the original they are not just for pregnancy



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Old Mar 20th, 2014, 11:02 AM   5193
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hi guys!

i have my period every month but early last year, i started spotting days before AF...1-2 weeks sometimes...
dr ordered for CD21 progesterone bloodwork and i was actually spotting when i had the test done.. results came in and i had 0.20 level...

NOW, Dr. ordered 25mg clomid for CD 5-9 and progesterone bloodwork on CD21 to check if there's any changes on my progesterone level..im just hoping the low dose clomid will work and help me get pregnant! fingers crossed!



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Old Mar 23rd, 2014, 07:25 AM   5194
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Just stopping in to say hello. Have been super busy with work which is probably a good thing as it keeps my mind off of obsessing with ttc. I am on CD17 right now. Got a positive OPK on CD12. The spotting should be showing up at the end of this week sometime. I have scheduled my d&c to remove the polyps for next month right after AF. I also have a meeting with my doctor to go over all the tests so far next Friday. Will let you all know how that goes. All of my further testing is on hold til I get my d&c. Btw I also took B6 and it made my spotting worse so I stopped taking it.

DrCo - Please let us know how your testing goes. I love horseback riding!

Jelly - Did you get your positive OPK? Interesting about the acupuncture. Maybe I should give it a shot. I will have to read up on it some more.

PlsBPositive - Have you taken the Clomid at all yet? Just curious if there were any side effects or anything?

2moms2be - Your spotting sounds a lot like mine. My previous doctors were not concerned with my spotting either which really frustrated me cause I agree that it can't be normal. Please let us know how the Vitex works for you.

Buninmyoven - My doctor also put me on Vitamin D. Not a spray, but the pills. I ordered them and I am just waiting for them to show up. How is everything going?

Trela - Thank you for the info! How is your pregnancy going? So excited for you!

Keeping my fingers crossed for all of you! Xoxo



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Old Mar 24th, 2014, 00:48 AM   5195
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PlsBPositive - Have you taken the Clomid at all yet? Just curious if there were any side effects or anything?
Hi bailey love,

I'm on low dose clomid (25mg) and so far didn't get any side effects. But I noticed though that bbt has increased when I started clomid, up until now. I'm on CD 8 and will stop clomid at CD9.



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Old Mar 24th, 2014, 05:46 AM   5196
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Update on the vitex: CD18 and not sure I've even ovulated yet! I usually do on CD14 (or so i think but there's usually a small rise and then another one at around CD16 so perhaps this has been wrong all along on FF). I am getting EWCM for the past 2 days (really odd) and when I used OPKs around the 12-13-14 I didn't get a positive so I think it's definitely delayed ov! My temps went from 97.3 to 97.7 today so it could have happened but don't normally get EWCM after. Ooooh the mystery. Will keep you all posted - not sure I want a longer cycle! I've probably messed things up as in terms of length my cycle was normal....hmm whether to continue with them or not this month!

Baileylove: Good luck with your tests and procedures. I've had letters through for my scan and HSG so these will be next month hopefully.

PlsBpositive: Let us know how the clomid goes for you. Out of interest were you post ov temps always high even though you had low progest?

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Old Mar 24th, 2014, 13:20 PM   5197
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PlsBpositive: Let us know how the clomid goes for you. Out of interest were you post ov temps always high even though you had low progest?

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Hi jelly84! I haven't seen any pattern yet since I just started last month. Previous month's chart was actually confusing. CD 11 I got +opk and fertility friend predicted that I ovulated on that day since there was a dip on my temp. I started spotting CD 19 and on CD 21, I got another dip. Fertility friend recalculated my ovulation date from CD 11 to CD 21. Now, I'm not even sure if I ovulated at all since progesterone was at 0.20.



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Old Mar 26th, 2014, 01:03 AM   5198
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Baileylove

About my pregnancy,
I have low lying placenta and i get spotting all the time thats why i am resting most of the day...fortunately i dont work...
So pregnancy has its complications too!!! But spotting gets on my nerves!!!
Its like i m cursed i had it before i got pregnant and even now i just cant get rid of it!!!
Anyway this issue makes me very stressed about making it full term, have a healthy baby etc.
Thank you for asking :-)



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Old Mar 26th, 2014, 03:56 AM   5199
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Hi ladies,
Quick update from me. I saw my lovely consultant recently and they have put in n appeal to our local CCG. As I said last month I did spot but there was hardly any spotting at all. Just the tiniest amount on 2 occasions a couple of days before AF and then for the first time ever in the whole 3.5 years since coming off the pill my AF started normally. I did several things differently last month. One of them was to take the original Pregnacare which is interesting given what Trela says in her post above. That was only because I had some left over from ages ago. I never thought that this could be why it was better. I continued to used the vitamin D oral spray (I'm sure that this has improved things). I take a DHEA supplement but I have had spotting on the months I have taken that so I don't know if this is helping or not and these tablets are expensive. Another thing I did differently was to stop having baths and to shower instead. I know it sounds crazy but the last time I got pregnant over 2 years ago I remember I didn't have any baths that month and used the shower instead because my father inlaw had fixed our shower for us. I wonder if the heat from the bath was interfering with implantation on the months I haven't conceived? I also decided to stop taking the Clomid and progesterone (which I was given to take after ovulation). The spotting was better than it ever has been when I was not taking these medications.

I have started taking the Pregnacare conception tablets this month but after reading Trelas post I'm going to stop and replace them with the original ones instead.

This month I am taking up yoga and giving up alcohol and be going to bed earlier. I will continue with the vitamin D and DHEA. I won't be using my last dose of Clomid or using the progesterone I have been given.

Another tip I've got is pink grapefruit juice. (Warning tmi) I don't normally get much CF in the lead up to ovulation but when I drink lots of this stuff in the first half of my cycle I get loads of it.

Jelly, I took Agnus Castus and I too found it delayed my ovulation by a couple of days. I decided to stop taking it but I have heard lots of other women say they got good results with it.

Im going to the open day at a fertility clinic soon so if my appeal is rejected then we should (hopefully) have a backup option.

Good luck everyone x



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Old Mar 26th, 2014, 04:09 AM   5200
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I should have post this to my story but i forgot!!!
About my eating habits after searching hours online what helps to get me pregnant :-) i also added pineaaple juice to my daily routine and kiwis!!!!!!!!!
Thats what many women with spotting said it helped
And when it comes to bathing i never bath because we only have a shower cabin(if i say it correctly)
I have also read that doctors tell to women who are doing ivf to never bath during implantation period or to shower with high temperature water for too long...i think it has something to do with the increased temperature and its relation to blood circulation in the area



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