hello all,

hs- thats great news abt the spotting..hope it'll stay away ! i know, the accupu is so expensive..were u spotting the day u got ur blood drawn ? gud luck with everythin dear !

cosmos - so sorry abt the witch dear ! may b ur body is just taking time to get back to normal after mc ! i think its a gud sign that it went from brown to pink ! hope it'll get sorted out by this cycle !

Hi ladies, nothing to do with the spotting as I'm still waiting to ovulate BUT....my DH rang the doctors today and the SA results are in. I'm so worried...the receptionist said she didn't understand them (which I can imagine as it does sound complicated) so DH had to make an appointment to see the doctor and we can't get one until next tuesday! Surely the doctor would've had a chance to look at the results and if it were fine she just would've said over the phone?! Or maybe the doctor hasn't had the chance to check them yet... But what a waste of an appointment if it's fine I am really worried, I don't think DH is though! I'm scared the last 9 months have been for nothing and we need treatment Roll on tuesday!!! x

Thanks Yum, as expected my spotting started this morning on 8DPO which I suppose is the best it has been for the past couple of months. I know AC doesn't help everyone but I think it helped me this month so I think I will continue it for the next couple of months. I got my bloods drawn the day before the spotting started so I hope that it is will still diagnose a hormone deficiency. Otherwise, I will have to go for more tests. Good luck to you too and I hope you get a soon xxx
Hi MrsPTTC, please try not to stress, I'm sure its just procedure. Even if the SA results don't bring good news there are lots of things that can improve sperm count and motility.
I'm sure everything will be fine though and I wish you the very best of luck for your appointment xxx

Thanks for the reassurance Happyshopper . I know I'm being silly, & I guess there is plenty that can be done for low count & motility. I'm just glad we've got it checked so at least we know either way x I hope they have some news for you from your blood tests hun x

Cosmos - sorry the witch found you (why does that little icon thingy have to look so blimmin happy too - couldn't they find a rotten witch?!)

Yum - I think progesterone suppementing is always started once O is confirmed to support the whole LP rather than just when you would spot. Not sure why tbh.

Happyshopper - Hope the bloods show something easilt fiexeable IYSWIM.

MrsPTTC - I think that's standard NHS procedure tbh. Usually if a blood tests result is 'clear' the receptionists will just say 'oh it's all fine the dr's seen it' and if it's not they would give you an appointment - BUT an SA result is more complex, it needs talking through good or bad I think FX for you. Not wishing it on you but I always think MFI is more easily treatable than some of the complex issues we women get.

MrsHY - hope you got your dominany follie? Or have I missed an update?

AFM, I got a cancellation so had my pre-treatment appointment with the nurse. I can start IVF next cycle. I am not excited, nor confident about this tbh. I'm just going to try to stay relaxed and treat this as an exercise in assessing my egg quality and response to drugs, it'll be a bonus and a freakin' miracle if i get pg through it!

10dpo today and.......drumroll please.........no spotting
First time in 15 cycles I have made it this far.
Nothing at all, even internally. Not even any browny-beige CM that usually preceeds my spotting.
I still feel sore and crampy like when I have my spotting and I still have my LP acne, but the brown gunk is totally absent

So......why?

A few things different this cycle....
1. I O'd the latest I ever have in 15 cycles, CD 15 (v's CD11/12) so maybe a stronger/better O and so no LPD?
2. I had a hysteroscopy, maybe my spotting was old blood and this cleared me out this cycle. I've alsoe read these procedures can correct hormone imbalances, much like a miscarriage or D&C can cause them.
3. The crinone progesterone. But then my 7dpo progesterone was good and I was spotting the day I was tested, so why would this fix it?

Unfortunately I got a BFN -I tested early as I need time to accept and embrace that I might be starting IVF now next week. I'm also not going to be able to know if it continues next cycle because of course i'll be pumped with injectibles. I'm not even going to be able to ask my dr why she thinks it's stopped because I've swopped clinics to start IVF and it was the previous dr that gave me the crinone.

It's so hard not to cling onto this spot-free LP as a sign of hope though, try a few more cycles naturally and cancel the IVF, but my head knows that would be silly and risky.

Hi Nell, that's fab news about your spotting!!! And great news about the IVF too! Good luck! Well I've been looking up low sperm count/motility & I know what is normal so when the doc is talking figures I know what he's on about! DH didn't want me to go with him but I've told him I'm going! You know what men are like, if there's a problem he'll not ask the right questions! After all I was the driving force behind this TTC though DH is happy to TTC too! x

Hi all
Sorry I've been AWOL!
MrsPTTC - try not to worry - I know when my OH's results came back they are a list of things on a paper and you'd need a good understanding of the context to translate them - it's not just a case of 'normal' or not. But as Nell says, usually any sperm probs can be relatively easily fixed so fx-ed that you get some progress from this.
Happyshopper - glad the AC seems to be doing something for you - as you say, response can be very individual - more's the pity otherwise we'd all know exactly what we SHOULD and SHOULDN't be doing!
Nell - sounds like the appointment went really well, and really pleased to hear that your spotting was better this cycle. You do know that the vast majority of preggie tests performed at 10dpo would be BFN though, right? You're going to re-test in 4 days time? Just putting it out there...
As for me, well - five ultrasounds later and FINALLY something is happening! I have a dominant follicle on my left ovary which has reached a size which could rupture (i.e. so I ovulate), and for the past two days I've had a little bit of EWCM too. So, I need to BD like crazy and also carry on with OPKs every day to confirm ovulation. It's cd 21 today - so Clomid at 50mg has not moved my ovulation forward - but let's see if it makes any difference to my LP/spotting!
I've got to call the unit on day one of AF (assuming she comes) to ask whether I should up the dose to 100mg. Don't shoot me down ladies - but if they don't want me to (I can't really see why not - I'm not a candidate for over-stimulation) I'm probably going to do it anyway!
x

MrsHy - yay for the dominant follie but boo it's not been quicker than usual. It does sound like you'd benefit from upping the dose (though I'm pretty sure it can take 2months to see an effect so you might be wise to just hang on first). Like you though i'd up it if nothing happened the 2nd month in.
I do know what you mean about 10dpo being too early and I will test again - I have to test before stopping my progesterone as stopping it would end any pregnancy so will test again at 14dpo. I don't feel any different though and our timing and my cm was all off, so I feel it'll be a BFN IYSWIM?!

MrsPTTC - ask for a copy of your SA if you're not given one, it can be a lot to digest if someone just talks you through it, but much easier when you look at the numbers (and the all important reference ranges alongside)

hello ladies,

mrspttc- i don't know abt the sa analysis but i'm sure its nothin to worry abt..i know wat u mean by men not askin questions its gud that u r going along ! i agree with others, men & their issues r not as complicated as v r

hs- its gud that ac is wrkin 4r u ! yay to 8dpo !

nell- thanks 4r the info ! wow thats great news abt spotting & ivf too may b u just needed the proges all along ! they'll put u on prog anyways as a standard 4r ivf ( here in usa )..hope u don't need to go to ivf at all & get i know it might take some time to sync in the facts abt ivf & all but try to be positive..u sure do have the right attitude one of frn's got pregs with 2nd round ivf & had a baby this feb !

mrshy- gud news abt the folli & time to get busy i feel that increasing ur dosage woud do the trick but as nell said may b ur body just needs some time !

gud luck to all !

I got a smiley face on my clearblue digi OPK this morning! Sooo happy. OK, so I'm still ovulating ridiculously late (cd22 today), but at least I'm ovulating! BD last night and will do so again tonight, and tomorrow night too for good measure. We're flying to Iceland tomorrow night for our anniversary so won't get to BD until late - but at least we'll be chilled as it's the start of our 5 day anniversary mini-break! x