Have you had any ultrasounds at all to make sure the clomid is working Hun? Any monitoring at all? How many rounds you done now? I found the more rounds i took the earlier I ovulated.. X
Hi MrsP! This was my first round, and had an u/s on cd11. I had two dominant follies. I ovulated on my own and had v.good lp lenght so I guess in my case the goal was to ovulate more eggs for better chances. I felt it messed up my cycle this time. However dr said its effectiveness peaks on cycles 2-3...
A lot of you might remember me when we all first started the thread long ago.......when we all were writing about TTC naturally and all of our struggles. I haven't logged on for quite a while until today. And I am amazed at how many of your journeys have now entered into the realm of fertility treatment. I too, have started treatment. In fact, I've already had two failed IUI's. So here I am again, seeking support and assurance.
I also see some of you have gotten your BFP's! Congrats!
Aleja and MrsPTTC, I remember writing to you a while ago and now so happy things have worked out.
Mrs.G: We sound like we are on the same road And MK8, what are you doing now?
All of you ladies were there for me when I was just starting out........but now, how the path has changed. I'm wondering now if a lot of us who never got a BFP naturally were destined for treatment. How naive I sounded when I questioned my CM, and talks of vitimins, and ovulation, etc......when ultimately fast fowarding to now, I'm writing to you with an update of two failed IUI's. I want to so badly just do IVF and give myself a better chance of ending this nightmare. But DH wants to continue with IUI since IVF is 100% out of pocket.
Anyway, I just wanted to say hi to all my friends and glad to hear that some have had great news!
Hi Truly! Welcome back. Sorry to hear things haven't worked out for you yet We went straight to ivf because dhs SA results were so low in all areas that there was no point in us trying anything else first. We also had to pay 100% out of pocket (oh, except for the meds which the government covers, tg!) but luckily for us it worked first time Sending you buckets of and good luck deciding what to do next
Welcome back Truly. I'm sorry you're feeling so down. This TTC journey certainly isn't easy. Who knew when we all started that so many of us would need help? It's a tough road but stay hopeful that it will happen. We have to right?
What type of iui did you go for? Medicated? If so what type? What were your follies, lining and dh results? I'm really sorry but I've forgotten if you and hubby were ever diagnosed with a reason for your infertility?
I ended up seeing a private specialist in the summer. We discussed my fertility test results (all "normal", just unexplained). He therefore suggested we try stimulated iui (low dose gonal f injections followed by trigger. I had tried clomid alone and it didn't work for me.). He also suggested back to back iuis (ie two inseminations in one cycle, done on two consecutive days). I could have had iui on a cost basis via the Nhs but the difference in price was minimal and the Nhs version would be more stressful as the hospital is miles away from my work (makes monitoring tough). So hubby and I opted for pvt iui at a clinic near by work. The less stress the better! However, treatment was delayed due to various other tests then olympics started and my fs went on holiday. After chatting with my mum she suggested we try naturally/ rest for a bit first. I agreed. TTC was becoming so stressful and my hubby and I decided to chill! I wouldn't say I'm totally carefree right now, far from it. I still worry but in trying hard to look after my health, eat and sleep better and enjoy Christmas! Bring on 2013!
My fs suggested three iuis in a row. Would you want to give it one more go before embarking on ivf? Has your iui protocol changed since your first one? I know it's tough truly, sadly we have all been there wondering why us and if it will ever happen, but try to enjoy your life with hubby as just you two for now (I strongly believe that we will all be mummies). Rest, at well, exercise. All good stuff for when you start treatment. I bought additional annual leave from work for 2013 so I can relax more!
Truly hello dear girl I am glad you are popping in. I am so very sorry you have had such a rough journey. I too remember being very worried about CM and getting the SMEP right! If only I knew back then that we needed IVF it would have saved me a whole year of unnecessary stress.
I am not sure what you will do in terms of another IUI or straight to IVF but I can tell you my opinion. At my age, 34 yrs the FS only gave us 15% success chance per IUI cycle compared to 50% with icsi (combining fresh + frozen embryos) . The decision was easier for us anyway as my DH has male factor issues.
It still took me 4 cycles (3rd frozen) to get a BFP and even now it's still early days.
It's hard to stay positive but let's remember we are still youngish. Most women in early to mid 30s fall pregnant with AC. I didn't believe this until recently either!
I can almost remember some of our chats when we broke down stats of becoming pregnant. LOL, when we were all under one year of TTC, we all said statistically speaking we’d all get pregnant in a year or year and half time. How we clung onto every hope. But now I realize that maybe we did and can fit into that statistic, only maybe we weren’t talking about natural BFP’s. Here we all are now talking of drugs, and IUI’s and IVF’s. I really missed you guys……
Ok, so a refresh on my story. I’m 34 now, turning 35 in a couple months……..when I start with you guys I was 33. It’s been a little over 1.5 years of trying naturally. After one year though, we did go get testing……everything is normal. You guys were even there for me when I got my HSG. I remember writing posts about how I was worried about blocked tubes. Guess that wasn’t the problem. DH has great numbers, I make eggs, blah, blah, blah = UNEXPLAINED! (Oh how I despise that word). So finally, when I had had it when AF came in August, I told DH we were going to start IUI in October………….here are my numbers and protocol:
• Oct (2012) cycle: 50mg of Clomid + Trigger shot + 1 IUI = 3 follicles (16-18mm in size), only 5mil swimmers and thin lining……FAILED.
• Nov (2012) cycle: 50mg of Clomid (plus estradial for thicker lining) + Trigger shot + 1 IUI = 1 follicle (16mm in size), 20mil swimmers………FAILED
The FS wants to continue to IUI’s, maybe increase the clomid dose for the 3rd one, and then after 3 clomid cycles, they’d move onto injectables before IVF. Of course, the Dr. says we can move onto IVF anytime we want to if we have the means and no patience, but her advice is to give IUI’s more tries.
I’m skipping this month’s cycle (DEC) and I’m ovulating now and we are having a natural cycle. I’ll go back to do the 3rd one in Jan 2013.
So here’s my take on my situation. I don’t think I had great numbers on these IUI’s. So, technically, I can see how they failed. And my protocol seems pretty conservative. It doesn’t hurt any less………it does only take one sperm and one egg! I don’t know why the Dr. kept me on 50mgs of clomid twice (well, they said they don’t prescribe high dosage to women who ovulate on their own). But who cares! My follicles seem pretty small. They should be at least 20mm, I think. You can’t keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome. Well, at least that applies to all other things in life…………nothing in the fertility world makes sense. Therefore, I’m going to ask for 100mg of clomid next time or add in some injectables like follistim or something.
I wish I could start IVF like some of you…………but we’re not ready financially for that. But then again, I don’t feel like I have much time left since 35 is around the corner. My husband said 5 IUI’s before even thinking about IVF. So, I don’t have a choice but to see how this all works out.
I don’t have any faith in IUI. The odds are super low………only a tad better than trying naturally so sometimes I feel like what is the point! What if my problem is that the sperm is not fertilizing the egg?, what if I have a hard shell, what if my egg doesn’t hatch? ………HERE I GO AGAIN with the questions just like in the beginning, except now, the questions seem more serious and insurmountable.
Oh and one more thing........While I was gone from the forum these last few months, DH and I sold our condo and bought a big fat house hoping that a change in environment and aligning things in preparation for a family would change our luck. The stress level for this process was out the of this world!!!! Well, now we sit in a big empty house alone, there is a room dedicated for a baby, and there is no more stress but no baby either.....just us two once again Some plan.
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