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Old Dec 26th, 2012, 23:15 PM   1
san fran shan
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Milk production - will it ever increase????


My twins are 4 weeks old. They had to get formula in the hospital but from day one I was pumping, hand expressing, and nursing the best I could. I tandem feed now and pump after most feedings. I pump at the most 2 oz after feeding them but usually only 1 oz or less. We top off with formula after every feeding and use the pumped milk so my husband can feed them and I can sleep once in a while. I was really hoping to build up a supply of milk in the freezer and we have none! I drink lots of water, take fenugreek 3 times a day, and eat well. I also drink mothers milk tea every so often.

Has anyone started out having to top off with formula and then finally produced enough milk and not had to anymore? Is there anything I can do to increase my supply? Any success stories??? I am so upset that I don't make enough and don't see ever being able to. I just want to know if its possible at this point. I know there's nothing wrong with formula but I really want to breast feed. It's something that's always been important to me.

I get so depressed when I pump and only get 5 ml. The twins scream and cry after I breast feed because they are still hungry. I get mad at my body for failing them.

So if anyone has success stories please share - starting out with low supply and having it become enough after 4 or more weeks.

Thanks!!!



 
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Old Dec 27th, 2012, 02:51 AM   2
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sorry your having a hard time at it. I don't have any advice i have never been able to BF with any of my kids i don't produce very much milk. my milk usually dries up pretty fast also so i can understand the disappointment part. Hope you find something that helps so that you can.



 
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Old Dec 27th, 2012, 08:30 AM   3
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Hi sweetly! I have no idea if it can increase, I had loads of milk and never gave formula while I breasted but my supply decreased more and more til it dried up at just over 6 months. When I pumped I always got between 4 and 5 oz but towards the end it was less than 1 oz most of the time! I wanted to breast feed for at least a year but my body didn't let me. I hope yours does!!! Love, xx



 
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Old Dec 27th, 2012, 09:57 AM   4
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Shan it is hard! I had such guilt issues with my son! I just found it painful, exhausting and difficult! Im so glad I persevered with him. Every time I had to give him formula I cried and felt so guilty. This time I know better. I didnt have to give them formula in hospital my colostrum was great, when milk came in I was in pain and hard and big as I anticipated. Fast forward two weeks and I am breastfeeding, expressing and topping up with formula - and doing it guilt free! I am happy they are still getting in breastmilk, but keeping up with twins is not easy at all. You're doing the best you can! I am also feeling rather flat at he moment. Lack of sleep also doesnt help with supply. My doctor prescribed eglynol (its medicine which helps with milk production), but I have forgotten to take it and am going to start tomorrow, and my hubby makes me vats of jungle juice. It tastes delicious and really helps! I also havent been drinking this much. My "Get milk supply loaded!" starts tomorrow. I know how I just havent had the time and we havent been home much. Now its settled down Im going to work on it now that Im home. Also oats, try eat as much of it as you can hun (for breakfast of course), its magnificent for supply. Here's the recipe for jungle juice, not sure if you get all the ingredients where you are?


#1Jungle Juice Recipe
Use this recipe daily, over a 24 hour period, to help stimulate your milk production and increase your energy levels.

* 50ml Weleda Schlehen Blackthorn Berry Elixir;
* 1 Lt Apple Juice (or pear or grape);
* 2 Lt Water;
* 1 sachet Blackcurrant Rehidrat;
* 10 drops Herbaforce rescue Remedy per glass (optional but really helps).

The Rehidrat can be replaced with Cal-C-Vita "bruis tablette".* Apparently you can also drink it during pregnancy to help boost your energy levels.



 
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Old Dec 27th, 2012, 12:13 PM   5
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How much milk do you think you make before the breastfeed? i.e. have you tried pumping before the feed (as an experiment)?
Because I did this for a bit on one side and then gave the pumped milk straight to one twin and usually got about 5oz (sometimes more, sometimes less) and that was enough for her. You might be making just enough for them and not much extra.

If you didnt pump afterwards and just put them back on would they not be satisfied? That one or two oz might be enough so you dont have to top up with formula?? I know it doesnt sort the extra bottles for you partner though but at least you would be exclusively BF.

Im not sure Im making much sense sorry!... What Im trying to say is check how much you are actually producing by pumping before the feed and then giving it to them in a bottle. This isnt even a true test as baby can get more out of you direct than you can get with a pump. But anyway you might be making more than you think.
And if you tried to put them on again instead of topping up they might get what they want. How much are you topping up anyway?

Sorry I still think that was garbled!



 
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Old Dec 27th, 2012, 17:56 PM   6
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Have you tried talking to a lactation consultant or la leche league?



 
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Old Dec 27th, 2012, 19:01 PM   7
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Mine was at its peak at 2 weeks pp, then dropped and dropped til I dried up at 5 months. Dont beat yourself up about it, you can only do your best.



 
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Old Jan 3rd, 2013, 13:58 PM   8
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Thanks everyone. I'll have to look up those jungle juice ingredients. Haven't heard of some of them and see if they are available here. I've become more ok with the formula. They sleep longer with it which is a huge benefit!



 
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Old Jan 3rd, 2013, 17:28 PM   9
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Oatmeal!!! Initially I bought granola bars with oatmeal as a "keep by the bed" snack because I got so hungry feeding the girls in the middle of the night. Oatmeal is great for increasing supply.

As much as you probably don't want to hear it... the MOST important time you can feed/nurse/pump is the middle of the night. At first I read it on the BF section and thought it was just one of those rumors... but it's incredibly true. I have noticed drops in my supply when my DH took over a night feed. Prolactin levels are higher at night, so nursing/pumping will boost the supply/demand response. In the first few weeks I would nurse every 3 hours... no matter what. If the girls were bottle fed some stored milk, I'd still pump. I couldn't nurse them for 24 hours after a chest CT, and I continued to pump and dump every three hours. BF'ing is all supply/demand, so unless you force your body to produce more and more milk, it will stop making more.



 
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Old Jan 3rd, 2013, 23:52 PM   10
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As long as pumping counts I do it around the clock. I empty my boobs every three hours. I have noticed more at night or after a nap. I assumed it was easier for my body to replenish the milk faster when I was sleeping.

To save time at night we feed them pumped milk mixed with formula and I don't BF in the middle of the night now. It adds at least 30 minutes to the feeding process and I am lacking too much sleep. I pump after every feed no matter what. I pump about 100 ml when I haven't BF right before. Interestingly enough, the babies take 100 ml in their bottle at each feed so if I had one baby it would be the exact amount I need.



 
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