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Old Oct 17th, 2017, 08:59 AM   11
ChantalLee
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Hello doggylover........I also have a booby monster. She sleeps in her own room in her own bed. I tried very hard to co-sleep but for some reason every time she made a sound or moved I would be awake. So we moved her to her own room and bed. About 3 weeks ago she started to sleep through the night, maybe only waking once now and again. After months and months of sleep deprivation and many hours googling a solution she suddenly started to sleep through......although I'm not sure there is a correlation but I did start to drink a "hormone balancing" smoothie in the morning to try and regulate my cycles for TCC. Strangely about 2 days later she started to sleep through......

Ava - I feed on demand, my cycle just returned on it's own in Feb. She usually drinks in the morning and then when I get back from work at about 4pm and then at bed time 7:30pm ish.........and then when ever she wakes up at night. Back in Feb she drank a lot more all day and night....



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Old Oct 17th, 2017, 09:21 AM   12
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Whoa, Chantal that is amazing that she just started sleeping through!!!! What a great girl, and I can absolutely imagine your relief and joy!

I have two awful sleepers. My eldest started sleeping through in January this year, at 3.5, and my almost 2yo is just horrific. He wakes every hour or so, and sometimes will stay awake for 2-3 hours during the night. I haven't known sleep in 4.5 years... and I used to be so fond of it

Interesting about the hormone balancing smoothie - what do you have in it?

My son feeds for nap (and during his nap, he has to be latched or he wakes right up) and then usually about 4pm and then for bed (and all night). That's him "day weaned" (not very successfully!) as two months ago he was having it constantly. And he goes mental if I say no!



 
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Old Oct 17th, 2017, 09:33 AM   13
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Chantal thats amazing I need to start drinking that smoothie I think

My ds used to feed to sleep for his nap too but now I've started taking him for a walk in the buggy for his nap as its the only way he will go to sleep without boob. I am way too lazy to night wean so I had to day wean in order to get my fertility to return.


I too have a terrible sleeper doggylover, he wakes every 30min to an hour at the moment, but he does have a cold. I feel your pain. I am concerned about surviving the 1st trimester with all his night waking!! How did you find it when pregnant with no2?



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Old Oct 17th, 2017, 10:02 AM   14
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The lack of sleep was driving me crazy so I made a list of things I was going to do to see if there was an improvement. It went like this:

1. Cut dairy out of my diet (my lg is very very dairy intollerant and the paed said I can continue to consume dairy so she can continue to be exposed to dairy and my homeopath said cut if out so I first went with paeds recommendation and then the homeopath. I cut dairy for 2 months and didn't see any improvement)

2. I gave her a herbal magnesuim supplement (only very slightly helped for the first few days)

3. Had her iron checked (it was fine)

4. Took her to a chiropractor (she was a c-section baby at 37 weeks due to complications. I should have done this a few weeks after she was born. Her allignment was very very bad and she was probably very uncomfortable all that time. Next baby will go to chiro immediately after birth. This step did help significantly actually, she didnt wake up every 1.5 hours but stretched to every 3 hours. And I was so happy with that!

5. "Hormone smoothy" (this is step 5 by default, didn't realise it until it "worked".....it think....touch wood....here are the ingredients:
- hand full of kale
- hand full of spinach
- Half a banana
- half an avo
- 125ml almond milk
- 125ml any yoghurt/kefir/(coconut water if you have alternate probiotic)
- 1 TBSP protein powder (I used a superfood green protein powder)
- 1 TBSP maca powder ( now personally I think this is the main ingredient as it is a chinese root that balances hormones)

I hope one of these steps will help your babies sleep better.



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Old Oct 17th, 2017, 10:16 AM   15
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Chantal thank you for all the tips! I wonder why the smoothie helped her to sleep better do you have any idea why?

I am absolutely up for giving that a go though I'm not sure if maca can be taken with agnus castus- i will do some research.

My ds was born at 39wks and had severe shoulder dystocia and oxygen deprived for 5 mins while he was stuck. He was 9lb14oz. We started cranial osteopathy when he was 4 weeks old and had 6 sessions but there was no improvement in his sleep. What sort of treatment did the chiropractor do for your dd?



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Old Oct 17th, 2017, 13:57 PM   16
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I also have a dairy intolerant nursling. He is slightly better now in that I can have most things (not yoghurt or milk, and not too much of anything). But he still can't have it himself. He is also egg intolerant.

And we have had cranial as well! So interesting to see you two have also used it as it isn't hugely common. It worked so well for him as a baby- he basically cried on stop for the first six weeks. Cutting out dairy and the cranial helped so much. So he only cried half the time for the next year!!

Chantal the smoothie sounds so nutritious it would be worth having for anyone.

Ava, I actually didn't know I was pregnant with no2 until I was 9 weeks, so I didn't know why I was so tired at first. And it was tough handling the pregnancy (I had very bad sciatica) with co sleeping and constant waking. But as with all things mum, I just kind of had to get on with it. We don't get much choice do we? When I was 8 months pregnant we transitioned to my husband co sleeping with her so I had a month of rest before no2 arrived.

Oh and for Oliver and naps - he doesn't "do" a buggy. He never has, he used to scream blue murder. He's a sling baby! And he needs boobs when in there to go to sleep... he does fall asleep in the car and I can lift him in and keep him asleep, but then he needs boobs or he wakes. And he needs a good nap or his devil horns show



 
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Old Oct 17th, 2017, 13:58 PM   17
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Also I should say that with Oliver being the second, even though his sleep is much worse than Isabelle's, I haven't noticed much at all. We used to go crazy trying to figure out how to make Isabelle sleep. Now we just accept Oliver will eventually!



 
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Old Oct 18th, 2017, 04:19 AM   18
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Great to see it worked for you both, I really hoped it would for ds but it turns out he's just generally high needs!!!

Doggylover thanks very much for sharing, did your supply dry up during your pg?

How are you both doing today? I'm 4dpo and utterly exhausted so really hoping that means my progesterone is nice and high! My temps are still very erratic so its difficult to tell especially as ds has had me up a lot the past few nights.

I don't think I will bother temping next cycle!



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Old Oct 18th, 2017, 06:02 AM   19
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Ava - Goodness it sounds like you had quite a traumatic birth!!

tbh I have no idea if it was coincidence or if it was the smoothie that helped her sleep through. Perhaps if you and doggylover give it a try and it works I will be able to say for sure lol

Coming back to your question about what the chiropractor did: He literally just push on a few of her pressure points and made sure her spine was aligned by pulling on her feet and turning them inwards.

Doggylover - I also found that when I accepted dd is a bad sleeper it was easier to cope with sleep deprivation, for a few days and then I would furiously start to google reasons why and how to fix it again and so the pattern continued lol

I really hope that both your babies start to sleep better soon!!!



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Old Oct 18th, 2017, 06:12 AM   20
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Chantal I will give it a try for sure! I'll try anything to get some sleep!

Oh that's interesting it sounds different to what the osteopath did for ds. It was more gentle pressures on the head, but i think that was more due to his birth.



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