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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 11:10 AM   1
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Planning for an epidural with 2nd but what does it feel like?


Ok so heres the story...

we are currently waiting to try
we are getting married august 27th
we want a honey moon baby
we have DS1 already and desperate for a girl
we are going to try for a girl using sheltles method
i am coming off my pill soon to follow my cycles using ovulation tests
we had a fab labour and i only had gas and air

I now want an epidural with the second one as i know what it feels like to give birth and i'm hoping that my OH and i can sleep through the labour then they check me and its 10cms so push and out pops DD1...

The only thing i'm worried about is the higher risk of having to have a c-section which i really dont want.

My question is....

what does it feel like?



 
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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 11:21 AM   2
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Hun I'm not being funny but I seriously wouldn't plan to have an epidural, I know in some countries they are default pain relief but they can actually cause more complications by making the labour much longer and then hugely increasing the need for intervention. Chances are (not always but usually) your labour will be quicker this time around, you've done it once so you can do it again, so I think it is best to go in with an open mind and see how you go, if you need it fine but I honestly wouldn't go in expecting one- you did fab not having one. The way you described an epidural birth isn't actually how it turns out a lot of the time, the mother can be pushing for a long time as it slows down the natural process, I would only ever have one if the pain was crippling me and little progress is being made.



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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 12:54 PM   3
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Ok..I am going to preface my statement by saying that...pain management during labour is a VERY personal choice...and I feel like some people who take the road of " no way would I do that because it harms my baby" are going to completely disagree with what I am going to say...so I am just going to preface this by saying while I respect their choices...I am only writing to this give the OP the answers she's looking for...NOT debate choice I have made because I made them by educating myself and being comfortable with MY choices...SO...that being said....

With my daughter I had an epidural. I am in Canada and an epidural is actually a very common option..you actually have to make it clear you DON'T want one...or they'll pretty much just give it to anyone...hahahaha...I have no scientific facts other than polls with my girlfriends who have had children....but...out of the 15 people I know..the girls who had epidurals actually had faster and LESS complications...my doctor informed me that...on an epidural..woman have time to sleep and relax and there is less swelling...so when it's time to push....mom's are rested and ready to go...as oppose to moms who (SERIOUS KUDO's) to them....go natural and don't sleep for 13/14 hours and then are too tired to push....my girlfriends who didn't have an epidural had to eventually have the help of a vaccume or suction to get the baby out.....I on the other hand...had an epidural...went into the hospital at 7 and had my baby by 11....zero complications...I was as my dr said "textbook"....I've actually never heard anyone under the age 55 tell me that epidurals have a higher rate of complications.....I don't know if we're talking about the same thing here but....my epidural was not the same as a spinal? Is that maybe what the PP is talking about???? My epidural was a drip that helped me sleep through contractions and then when it was time to push it had worn off essentially...so I could FEEL every push and could feel every inch of that baby being born!!!hahahhahaha.. Even my girlfriend who had a midwife intended to have an epidural and still had midwife care throughout her pregnancy.....so....clearly there is a big difference between the UK and Canada....I have actually never heard of any baby being born with ANY sort of issue due to an epidural????? Does anyone have any findings on that??? I know sometimes they say drugs can make a baby drowsy but...maybe it's the dose in Canada or the type...but my child was actually WIDE awake for the first 5 hours of her life (actually freaked me out cause I thought she was suppose to sleep? hahaha)....anyways...so...that's my oppinion on the issue.....I have to say...I had an epidural with my first..zero issues and will have it again with my second...and I am VERY VERY comfortable with that choice!!



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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 13:13 PM   4
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I think the difference in the UK is epidurals are given later rather than earlier generally so the woman is probably already tired and perhaps not having a straightforward labour, I know in the US (no clue about Canada) from the things I have seen they shove it in pretty quickly lol. However, there is a reason they are given later in the UK and if you look at the statistics and not anecdotal evidence you will see why. I am not anti epidural at all, I would happily have one if needed, I just personally think it is better to go into labour open minded because every labour should be managed differently and you won't know how until you start...having said that I am not going into my labour open minded at all lol. But like the PP says it is very personal, so all I would suggest is thoroughly researching the pros and cons into all pain relief so you are prepared beforehand...which I guess is what you're doing lol, but as said I would look at statistics as well as anecdotal evidence.



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Ok..I am going to preface my statement by saying that...pain management during labour is a VERY personal choice...and I feel like some people who take the road of " no way would I do that because it harms my baby" are going to completely disagree with what I am going to say...so I am just going to preface this by saying while I respect their choices...I am only writing to this give the OP the answers she's looking for...NOT debate choice I have made because I made them by educating myself and being comfortable with MY choices...SO...that being said....

With my daughter I had an epidural. I am in Canada and an epidural is actually a very common option..you actually have to make it clear you DON'T want one...or they'll pretty much just give it to anyone...hahahaha...I have no scientific facts other than polls with my girlfriends who have had children....but...out of the 15 people I know..the girls who had epidurals actually had faster and LESS complications...my doctor informed me that...on an epidural..woman have time to sleep and relax and there is less swelling...so when it's time to push....mom's are rested and ready to go...as oppose to moms who (SERIOUS KUDO's) to them....go natural and don't sleep for 13/14 hours and then are too tired to push....my girlfriends who didn't have an epidural had to eventually have the help of a vaccume or suction to get the baby out.....I on the other hand...had an epidural...went into the hospital at 7 and had my baby by 11....zero complications...I was as my dr said "textbook"....I've actually never heard anyone under the age 55 tell me that epidurals have a higher rate of complications.....I don't know if we're talking about the same thing here but....my epidural was not the same as a spinal? Is that maybe what the PP is talking about???? My epidural was a drip that helped me sleep through contractions and then when it was time to push it had worn off essentially...so I could FEEL every push and could feel every inch of that baby being born!!!hahahhahaha.. Even my girlfriend who had a midwife intended to have an epidural and still had midwife care throughout her pregnancy.....so....clearly there is a big difference between the UK and Canada....I have actually never heard of any baby being born with ANY sort of issue due to an epidural????? Does anyone have any findings on that??? I know sometimes they say drugs can make a baby drowsy but...maybe it's the dose in Canada or the type...but my child was actually WIDE awake for the first 5 hours of her life (actually freaked me out cause I thought she was suppose to sleep? hahaha)....anyways...so...that's my oppinion on the issue.....I have to say...I had an epidural with my first..zero issues and will have it again with my second...and I am VERY VERY comfortable with that choice!!
As far as I am aware epidurals are not dangerous to the baby in terms of the drug, pethidine passes to the baby but not this, the issue with epidurals if given too soon like ANY pain relief (pethidine, drip for bringing on contractions) it slows down your body's natural process so it generally slows down labour, now for lots of women this isn't an issue they still have a timely labour, but for others this increases the need for intervention such as forceps and/or c sections, so for me personally it's not so much the baby because the risk to the baby of a drawn out labour is minimal it's more the fact it is a drawn out labour. Now obviously the effect of pain relief cancels out the risk of a longer labour in a lot of scenarios, but epidurals seem a little needless to me if someone is progressing well which is why it seems odd to me that people say 'I will have an epidural' because I think the attitude in the UK it is given as needed, not as default? If you look at statistics there will be a high correlation between epidurals and forceps/ c sections especially when you think 25% of women in the UK give birth by c section so intervention such as epidurals will be one cause of that. Btw I have no issue with intervention so long as mum and baby are ok that's all that matters so if women are happy to acknowledge they may have a longer labour thats all good but I would like a quick labour with a short recovery and youre more likely to get that with a natural labour if your body is progressing well.



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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 14:20 PM   6
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I loved my epidural and I wouldn't have changed it for anything in the world. They gave me a choice when i wanted to have one and I waited until I was pretty far into labor before I got it so I KNOW it wouldn't wear off or anything. I had an emergency c-section but my epidural didn't have anything to do with it. My son had wrapped the cord around his neck twice. He didn't want to come out. I was only in labor for not even 12 hours. It is different for everyone and is your personal choice. If and when I get pregnant with my 2nd I know I will have another if I actually get to go into labor like normal.



 
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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 14:25 PM   7
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I would like a quick labour with a short recovery and youre more likely to get that with a natural labour if your body is progressing well.
I had 7 and a half hour labour with my first but I know as soon as I go into labour with my second I will think to myself 'oh god why did I do this again'
Obviously I will see how I go; I'm not even pregnant yet but I think this statement is a personal opinion.



 
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I would like a quick labour with a short recovery and youre more likely to get that with a natural labour if your body is progressing well.
I had 7 and a half hour labour with my first but I know as soon as I go into labour with my second I will think to myself 'oh god why did I do this again'
Obviously I will see how I go; I'm not even pregnant yet but I think this statement is a personal opinion.
The former part is personal opinion but the latter is fact I had it drilled into me at NCT classes lol, it is dependent on the labour of course! I had a 4 hour water birth and am hoping to have a 2 hour water birth next time I can hope!



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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 14:57 PM   9
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Maybe that's the issue. Maybe people get it too early. In the hospital I gave birth they don't suggest it until your at least 5 cm. I was only 2 cm when I got mine. But thank god I got it when I did. Got my epidural at 9am and gave birth at 11am. Yup, first baby and I went from 2 cm to 10 in 2 hours!! So like everyone I saying. Everyone is different. I truly think being relaxed an sleeping helped me push things along that fast... Good luck with your choice.



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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 14:59 PM   10
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Maybe that's the issue. Maybe people get it too early. In the hospital I gave birth they don't suggest it until your at least 5 cm. I was only 2 cm when I got mine. But thank god I got it when I did. Got my epidural at 9am and gave birth at 11am. Yup, first baby and I went from 2 cm to 10 in 2 hours!! So like everyone I saying. Everyone is different. I truly think being relaxed an sleeping helped me push things along that fast... Good luck with your choice.
Eek you better get to the hospital quickly next time that's really quick!



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