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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 10:44 AM   11
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I believe in Ireland the guidelines are 6 months for ebf babies and 4-6 for ff babies. I think its because there is less benefit to delaying weaning if a baby is on formula due to formula's affect on the stomach. I'm ff'ing and thinking of starting at 6 month ish as she is only now starting to show readiness.



 
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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 12:25 PM   12
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i have never herd about different guidelines about ff and bf babies. all i know is when dd1 was born it was recommended 4months dd2 was 6months again its 6months. im holding out for a while before weaning ds



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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 12:33 PM   13
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I weaned my dd at 4 1/2 months, being guided by when she seemed ready. I will do the same with our ds when he reaches the stage we feel he right to try solids. Will avoid wheat, eggs and a few other things for a while first though, start with simple puréed and baby rice.



 
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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 15:51 PM   14
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This isn't true. The UK government only just revised the national guidelines and they even more firmly reiterated they should be kept at six months. Unfortunately baby food companies are well known for organising training seminars for health professionals and putting misleading information out there regarding that the guidelines will be, or have been changed back to 4 months. After all if all babies were weaned at around 6 months they'd lose millions. The baby food companies have been at this since 2003 when the guidelines were changed to six months and despite being reviewed several times since based on new research have been kept at six months. If you go to the NHS choices website it confirms the age is six months and it was only reviewed July last year xx



 
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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 15:57 PM   15
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Here it is

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/pregnan...s-weaning.aspx

Several of the studies and pieces of research the government looked at to formulate these latest guidelines were those that suggested weaning at 4 months and that waiting until 6 was harmful however the government scientists simply didn't believe these studies were as credible as others they viewed showing a lower incidence of allergies and problems by waiting until 6 months. So far I have seen only one relatively recent study claiming that waiting past 6 months increases the risk of coeliac disease which is an intolerance to gluten NOT an allergy, haven't seen anything else credible and clearly nor have the government. Coeliac charities generally advise weaning as close to 6 months as possible so clearly they don't think the research holds much water either xx



 
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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 17:37 PM   16
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This isn't true. The UK government only just revised the national guidelines and they even more firmly reiterated they should be kept at six months. Unfortunately baby food companies are well known for organising training seminars for health professionals and putting misleading information out there regarding that the guidelines will be, or have been changed back to 4 months. After all if all babies were weaned at around 6 months they'd lose millions. The baby food companies have been at this since 2003 when the guidelines were changed to six months and despite being reviewed several times since based on new research have been kept at six months. If you go to the NHS choices website it confirms the age is six months and it was only reviewed July last year xx
I know what the guidelines say but i was merely stating what my babies consultant told me on Thursday. He has been part of research at our local hospital and said the guidelines will soon be changing. He told me if i hadnt already done so to start weaning. This wasnt posted based on the age from any food companies but from an NHS professional x



 
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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 18:36 PM   17
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Yes and consultants and HVs have been touting this myth since 2003, strangely the guidelines haven't been changed in all that time. I highly doubt they will he changed in April when they are next reviewed because no new research has come out that caregorically proves weaning at 4 months to be better. One NHS professional does not speak for the entire NHS nor the scientists at its core that decide on guidelines. Most of the consultants and HVs who say this have recently attended a baby food company run training seminar, some even admit it, others try and claim they took part in some research or they read it somewhere. Health professionals often attend these seminars as the NHS cannot afford to run training seminars themselves, sadly these training seminars are nothing more than a propoganda exercise to undermine current guidelines. Xx

ETA: and think about it did you really think the NHS would change guidelines based on one study? That just doesn't make sense. The NHS guidelines on weaning do not differ locally anywhere in the UK either. Every time the NHS review the guidelines according to the chief medical officer's blog they look at thousands upon thousands of pieces of evidence from tens if not hundreds of studies from across the UK, across Europe and North America and also some from developing countries also they would not look at one piece of research from one local hospital and them change guidelines that they only recently reviewed and decided to keep firmly at 6 months. You can get one off studies that 'prove' anything and the government would be changing all kinds of clinical guidelines if they acted upon every single study or piece of research done.



 
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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 21:27 PM   18
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Yep, both my naturopath and paediatrician said that 4 months is the advised age now. Moreover, they both told me to start of with meat and veggies, rather than baby cereal!
That is not correct either. From the best of my knowledge all of the recommendations in Ontario (or Canada in general) are solids from 6 months+. Going back to 4 months would be going backwards in research Not saying it to nit pick, just don't want other people to get the wrong info.

They are saying start with real foods and skip the baby cereal/slow introduction of foods.. basically give them anything within reason from 6 months.



 
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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 22:08 PM   19
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Yep, both my naturopath and paediatrician said that 4 months is the advised age now. Moreover, they both told me to start of with meat and veggies, rather than baby cereal!
That is not correct either. From the best of my knowledge all of the recommendations in Ontario (or Canada in general) are solids from 6 months+. Going back to 4 months would be going backwards in research Not saying it to nit pick, just don't want other people to get the wrong info.

They are saying start with real foods and skip the baby cereal/slow introduction of foods.. basically give them anything within reason from 6 months.
You've raised a good point there. That's another thing, a lot of those against 'late weaning' ( and they'd even consider bang on 6 months to be late) don't think about the fact that if starting at six months your baby can eat anything within reason and will probably start on gluten, meat etc pretty much right away. A 6 month old is likely to be eating a larger volume of solids than if starting at 4 months. I think a lot of those who are against 'late weaning' and this applies to some researchers as well, think that with a 6 month old you'd be starting extremely slowly on cereals or fruit and veg purée and thus won't be introduced to gluten and other allergens until much later on. This simply isn't true. Xx



 
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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 22:15 PM   20
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Why would 6months be considered late weaning when 6months is the recommended age to start weaning? im confused lol



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