39 and trying to conceive:-(

[PositiveUs]

I read online that a woman temps vaginally mid day during the luteal phase and says that the temp drop starts before the BBT temp drop and gives her even more of a heads up that the witch is on her way.
Who the hell knows what to believe anymore!
Am I going to go into the bathroom at work to vaginally temp mid day just to know if the witch will get me???? That just sounds a little nuts to me!
This whole thing has me nuts anyway
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

 

[PositiveUs]

I also read that if your prego, your temp will be up anytime of the day or night, so that's why I started to take my temp mid day (orally!-not that there's anything wrong with vaginally). I use it as another indicator and another way to have something to do other than test hpt too early. It basically makes me feel like I am doing something when I feel like I have no control over anything.

 

[SunflowerMama]

Any of you ladies experiencing sleeplessness and irritation at around 6-7 dpo? I am completely losing it!! Haven't slept in 2 nights. so angry and irritated that I keep questioning if I really want another baby! I am too ashamed to even think such thoughts....hope its only those stupid stupid hormones!

 

[Bonnie1990]

Positive
I am usually up a fee times a night to pee myself. If I see I can wait the hour then I hold it otherwise oh we'll I go. It doesn't seem to mess with my chart too much. I think consistency is the key and I consistently wake so it seems to work. Maybe if you go another cycle, shoot for the same time no matter your sleep pattern? You can look at my charts and they seem pretty normal if there is such a thing and can still tell ovulation phase differences.
If mid day temping gives you something to do then go ahead. No harm done.
I haven't read of any benefits to temping vaginally vs orally. Just to be consistent in the cycle and not do both.

Sunflower- I'm sorry your tired and cranky. I hate sleepless nights yet I can't pin them to my cycle. They just are. And after no sleep the irritability factor sure does kick in. Here is to a better rest tonight.

 

[PositiveUs]

Well I caved and did a test this morning at 10DPO. Negative.
I must really be hoping for a miracle cuz we only BD'd once that could count (the day before O, I thought it was the day of O ). And I didn't use preseed or take mucinex.
My doc and I decided to do a laproscopy and hysteroscopy before starting a new cycle. Even though this will prolong everything, we discussed it and he thinks its a good idea to have a look around and states it could only help the chances of ivf or natural conception. They will most likely take out the blocked tube which makes me nervous
It will show if there is any endo on the uterine lining and maybe if there is then they can take some of it out.
I hate waiting, but for all the money and personal trauma this is causing my psyche, I think it will at least make me feel like my mind can rest knowing someone took a look in there and fixed what needs to be fixed so I have the best possible chance for the next two rounds.
I can come to tears soooooooooooooooooooooo easily its ridiculous, and anywhere, the grocery store, shows on tv, etc. My temp is down this morning. So now I hate the thermometer and will not be daytime temping anymore. Six days til the witch gets me.
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/36bad3
Thanks for listening.

 

[Bonnie1990]

You are always welcome to vent. It's what we are here for and we all have to at one time or another.

10 dpo is still early-but you know that.

And Bd the day before or the day of is good!

I'm not tryin to give false hope. Just some hope. It ain't over quite yet.

 

[PositiveUs]

The RE told me to read "The Three Majic Words" by U. S. Anderson and "The Secret" and all of the books that it was written from as well as any book on mindfulness and positive thinking. He gave me his cell phone number and told me to call or text whenever I needed to. He is really cool. He is all about positive thinking. You should go to the CNY Fertility Center website and watch the "tv" they have with him telling the viewers the importance of positive thinking. He said he doesn't watch tv or read the newspaper, all he does is read books on positive thinking and such every day. He said yoga is extremely important as well. I wish I could take time off work to join the buddhist camp here and just chill with them for a month or so and get away from popular culture and my drinking friends and the demands of regular society and just focus on getting back to what we are put on this Earth for in the first place. It seems I just go from one thing to the next, never taking time to really see what is happening or to listen to my inner self.

 

[trying4four]

Haven't checked in in a few days..how are all you lovelies doing? My chart is all over the place and I really have no idea if I've even O'd or not. Four days after my OPK positive and my temp was still low. It was up the next day, but summer has finally arrived so it could very well be that, oh and that I've started getting up later since the kids are on holidays now. So who knows?? Oh well, no stress that way for me I guess. Will probably test around the 15th.

 

[trying4four]

PositiveUS - I have to do vaginal temping because I just wasn't getting accurate readings when I did it orally. I found if I had a bad nights sleep or was sleeping with my mouth open, it really affected the readings. Vaginally, I've been able to get very consistent numbers for a few years now.
Oh, and 10DPO is still early too.

 

[PositiveUs]

Ok. So I've tested every day since 10DPO and now its 13DPO and all BFN.
I am fine with it. I don't think there's a reason to keep testing.
I know it's a horrible excuse, but I wanted to keep testing to see if I can start taking the chinese herbs or not. The earlier I take them before a period the more help it will be to the witch; less clots, less pain. So I started taking it again today. The witch is due Thurs. or Fri.
The herbs are only to be taken before O unless your not ttc.
I hope laproscopy/hysteroscopy doesn't hurt too bad. Both my gyn docs have no appt openings or are on vacation until Aug. so I am having a brand new patient consult with a gyn that can see me Fri. so I can set up a time for the surgery.
Hope you ladies have better luck!

 

[Bonnie1990]

Hugs positive
Good luck with the new doc.

I am pricing out hsg's currently anticipating having one early the week of 7/23 unless by some miracle I get a BFP this weekend. Not feeling anything so I am not expecting much.
Told DB today that it's time for testing. He is less than thrilled and he has the easy part! Smh

 

[PositiveUs]

my hsg was practically all paid for by insurance.

 

[Bonnie1990]

my plan has a 2500 individual or 5000 family deductible before it starts to pay.

and i work for a flipping hospital!

DB has no insurance. his SA is $172

 

[drsquid]

my hsg was about 700 and that was with the cash discount

 

[Bonnie1990]

Yeah that's about what I'm finding.

 

[PositiveUs]

If you get procedures done at my local hospital where I get my US and bloodwork for IVF, and you pay cash, they give you half off. An US at my hospital is over $900 and each blood draw is about $400 and insurance has so far paid for most of it and I pay $50 or $80 or $120 depending. It is all up to BC/BS what they will and will not cover when it comes to infertility. I am constantly online looking up the claims to see if each procedure I have gotten will be covered or not, its so nervwracking. During an IVF cycle you are getting an US and bloodwork every other day so that is 3-4 times per cycle and each time its $900 for the US and $400 for the bloodwork!

 

[Bonnie1990]

I work in reimbursement and billing at a hospital. I have BCBS but a 2500 individual deductible or 5000 family deductible. There is a prompt pay discount of 20% if I pay the estimated charges up front. There is also a larger discount if is skip insurance and am straight self pay-but then it won't bring down my deductible. There will also be a separate bill for the radiologist. There is a radiology center about an hour and a half away that charges $602. If that is all inclusive for the procedure and radiologist I am good becuase there will be an insurance adjustment as well. I also will have more privacy without everyone in the small hospital knowing my business.
My plan has no infertility coverage but this is considered diagnostic. I get nothing for iui or IVF or drugs.

 

[trying4four]

Bonnie, since you are in NY why don't you think about coming north. You'd still have to pay since you aren't Canadian, but I'm guessing it would be much cheaper and your dollar is a bit higher than ours at the moment.

 

[Bonnie1990]

I don't know where in Canada to go, but niagra falls is at least 6 Hours away.
I live only 2 hours north of NYC.

I just booked one for 7/23.
It is an hour and a half drive but is billed to my insurance all inclusive at $602 so it will be lower after the insurance adjustment.

Pending a BFP this week of course lol

How are you making out-you have been quiet lol

 

[trying4four]

Well, I have kids on summer vacation Doesn't leave much time for anything else
My chart is completely useless this month as my temp and the weather temp are the same. No idea why FF put my O date as early as it did I ran out of OPKs so I stopped when I got a + as I ran out but my temp took soooo long to go up. Anyway, we BD'd so we'll see. Not holding out much hope for a BFP this month though. I'm seeing the FS on the 24th so I'll look forward to that I guess. I think I'm going to have the same thing done that you are doing. I'd just like to know if there is a problem or not.