Hello,
I am starting my natural (spontaneous) IVF cycle treatment in August 2013 In Germany it is called Green fertility. RE will not use any ovary stimulating drugs, only local painkiller during egg retrieval. It is exciting! I'll be happy to share my journey with you!
THis study gave me hope. Many women got preggo in 3rd try.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3169680/
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IVF #1 August 19th update
Hi,
Officially I am on the green fertility schedule.
CD11,14-15mm follicle on Monday and HCG trigger shot at 9:30pm that night.
Wednesday egg retrieval at 8:30am
Probably Friday(after 2days) eggy is going to my incubator!
My RE appointment went really well.
During the ultrasound she saw one follicle but she couldn't tell if I still have an egg in it. It could be only a corpus luteus. Dr. saw some fluid and she predicted that it could mean ruptured follicle, O have happened. I told her I felt some activity couple days ago. We took a blood test and it showed that I haven’t O 'ed yet and I don't have my LH surge yet. The timing is perfect so far!
Blood work was perfect.
LH 6.4mlU/ml
Progest .3 ng/ml
Estrogen 166.9pg/ml
Dr. printed a photo of my follicle.
My dh got tested for HIV, and I got tested for HIV, hepatitis C, hepatitis B.
I asked dr. why should we test now? We didn't know if I O'ed or not, at that time. She told me that those tests are valid for half a year. "You'll come back , right?" She really made me think we'll fail this IVF
However, my dr. was really nice.
She was pleasant, smiling a lot..
She answered all my questions.
1. she gave me 10% success, many embryos doesn't grow in the lab, many women don't get them transferred.
2. I'll not get the same dr. during this treatment.
3. My dr. treats IVF the same way like spontaneous conception. She doesn't believe that laying down after transfer will help with implantation. Embryo will not drop, it will swim for 2 days in the womb till implants. She warned us that it is more chances to get intrauterine, tubal pregnancy with IVF.
4. Taking baby aspirin to increase implantation, the study is inconclusive. I'll research more about it and let you know.
5. I should not take preg test at home. One Patient did it and it was false negative. Do the blood work 14 days after O.
6.My husband can be next to me during retrieval and transfer. We can't make the baby naturally, at least he'll be part of it. It is sooo wonderful!
7. Egg Retrieval risks are horrible. Nothing horrible ever happened from 10000...egg retrieval. Dr. knocks on her head 3 times...pfu, pfu pfu.. But My dh is super sensitive he went detail by detail about it with a dr. She told us important arteries are close by, if she punctures, I could bleed. They may need to cut me open and operate. Fertility clinic is in the main hospital, so I am safe and there will be no time wasted to help me. (every operation has risks, hysteroscopy also had risks, I was fine)
8. Resume the same activities like always after transfer. Just avoid running and heavy physical activities. NO restrictions about sex.
9. Flying in the first trimester is not recommended, but everybody does anyway! Radiation concern and overall early preg. symptoms.
I had a huge scare last night about HCG trigger shot.(Ovitrelle 250microgram) 4 pharmacies didn't have it, they offered to order the next day. I was in shock and had tears in my eyes and I felt was so hopeless I needed that night at 9:30pm. The pharmacist told us to go to another city. Fertility clinic (the one I visited last Thursday is close by), it was a big possibility that they had it. And they did indeed! They were open till 10pm. WE were so blessed and so lucky! Big lesson for the future-please prepare in advance to avoid heartache.
When we picked up meds we had 1 hour till the shot. So we decided to go for a drink and relax. WE went to a brewery-restaurant where my dh dad worked when he was young. I had fresh squeezed orange juice and he had a beer. You can't imagine what we saw on the table! 4 glasses cylinder filled up with vinegar and oil. The ones we used in chemistry lessons for experiments. What a sign! The test tube baby will be made in Germany! Probably this week! I had chills! Pleasant once. It meant to be....
We had only 20 min till my shot, so we decided to stay in the city. I did the shot(my first one ever! and I nailed it, I was sooo proud of myself!) in the car with a view of the light up city, river and a castle. We walked for an hour, hugged and kissed. WE can't make our baby naturally at least we'll have some special romantic moments to remember, and the baby will be sooo special too! My dh wants to be involved 100%, he is making movies and taking photos.
Keep fingers crossed for tomorrow, I hope for the healthy and strong eggy!
Thank you for reading!
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August 21, 2013 One hour before procedure I put a pill of voltaren 50mg in my rectum. we came to the clinic on time, I had to wait for 0,5 an hour for the procedure. In the room I met Prof. she shook my hand and said nice to meet you. She didn’t remembered me? She did my hysteroscopy a month ago! I asked her if the follicle still grew after HCG shot? She said yes. We signed the paper work and I got on the table. My husband was next to me the entire time. I asked her if you don’t get the egg, will you try again? She said no. Prof. had two helpers. The nurse opened the package and took out the longest needle I have ever seen. Prof. wiped my vagina in and out with a salt water and looked at my follicle. She didn’t measure it. She told me it doesn’t matter. I wanted to know, how big it was during retrieval. Prof. poked the needle and sucked the follicle’s fluid. I saw everything on the screen. I felt pain only when the needle pierced my skin. She poured the fluid in the cylinder tube glass and brought to another room to look at the egg. She came back with a bad news, no egg is found. She will try again if I want to. I agreed she sucked more fluid from the follicle and the second time she had no luck. Prof, explained to us that it could be an empty follicle, some women have it once in a while. Or an egg is still stuck to the wall of the follicle and is going to leave it any minute. Maybe the egg left with a first time needle withdrawal.? we'll never now.She asked about my tubes. Are they open?. I told her we don’t know, they may. I had a pelvic surgery, we blame the tubes for infertility. If my tubes are open but they are not functioning, we may have a tubal preg. Sperm has easy ride to the tubes aftetr IUi. Dr. suggested to do IUI and we agreed.
My dh had to collect his sperm, we went to a special room for that. I helped him We want to be involved 100!% in this project! We had to wait for 1 hour for sperm to be ready to inseminate. WE were sitting in the waiting room and I felt little nausea and suddenly, dizzy, I saw lights flashing in front of my eyes. I told to Gary I am dizzy, I am dizzy, ask for help! He ran to the right knocked at the doors, nobody opened. He went to the left and receptionist Marla, lab technician and dr. All ran to me and they found me laying on the floor. I laid down by myself because I knew it will help me. Dr. checked my blood pressure it was 90/40. Marla held my legs up in the air. The girls put me in bed, covered with a sheet, because I was shivering. Everybody were so nice to me I'll never forget how nurse cuddled me in the blanket.Dr. had a hard time putting IV in my arm, because my veins collapsed. Gary demanded for an ultrasound, he was worried about the internal bleeding. I was fine. Dr. calmed us down, it couldn’t be infection, it is too early. She said that vagus nerve over responded to the peritoneal area fluid leakage. Dr. rolled me to another room for recovery. After egg aspiration through the vaginal wall, I had low abdominal cramps just for an hour. Gary’s sperm was ready for insemination. His sperm morphology was fine but motility was little low. 28% and suppose to be 32%. Dr. made sure that it was Gary’s sperm and she made sure that it was me laying on the table. During this procedure, I didn’t feel pain at all. I only felt uncomfortable when Dr. put tool to open my cervix.
Dr. orders was to BD that night because sperm has peptides that helps with firtilisation.
After HCG shot my egg suppose to mature more. The flollicle grows about 2mm a day. So on Monday morning it was 16mm. On Wednesday morning probably 20mm. In the past I had a 20mm follicle and I felt my O that night. I beleave that the timing was perfect.
I am on progesteron now. I take 2 pills (200mg) in the evening.
I have a tiny hope with a huge help of magic. We did 2 things different this month IUI and progesteron.
Thank you for reading.
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September 2nd update
BFN this morning 12dpo.
My temps are down too. I am taking progesterone. I beleave they should stay high with this hormone. I never had any side effects, maybe I am not responding well to it?
I want to quit it and wait for my period. I hope we are staying couple more months in Germany. I would do 2 more natural cycle IVF and then I'll convince my Dh for a standart one.
My blood test is due on Wednesday. I don't think I should do it. No egg, no embryo...This cycle is hopless.
I'll test again till then.
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CD25, BFN,Sept 2nd
CD26, BFN, Sept 3rd
CD28, BFN, Sept 5th
CD25, I took only one progesterone
CD26, I quit
My AF showed up 3days later
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IVF NR.2SEPTEMBER 13th, Friday 11am
Update from a visit to RE
CD8,We found beautiful round follicle 18mm on my left side(last month was on the right).
Blood tests were great. My LH hasn't spyked yet.
HCG trigger shot on Saturday 11pm
Egg retrieval on Monday at 10am.
My blood tests were perfect
LH 3.7 mlU/ml
Estrogen 153.7pg/ml(150-200 mature follicle)
progesterone .5 ng/ml
SEPTEMBER 16TH
Egg is retrieved. Procedure went well. I felt pain only when the dr. pull out the needle. Not a big deal. After that, no pain at all!
SEPTEMBER 17TH
Egg is fertilised
SEPTEMBER 19TH
Embryo 8A is transfered.
It takes 2 days to implant in my uterus.
SEPTEMBER 30TH
Beta-valio!valio!valio! Hooray!
I am not alone anymore! September 19th
Embryo transfer was a little bit complicated dr. couldn't get into my cervix to my womb with a catheter, she let this perform to another dr. and she did it but my hubby saw she had to push an emby in. I read in literature, that when cervix gets triggered too much, oxytoxin hormone gets elevated and that increases uterine contractions. No good.
We saw a photo of embryo 8cell A grade 3 days old. He is perfect!
WE saw a follicle first last week, today an embryo. We are so blessed to experience live growing. A reward for all dark days and dissapoinments.
Sept 30th is a blood test.
Dr. orders: no baths and sex for 4 days, no heavy lifting and exercise. Stay warm and rest.
2 years of infirtility, pages of BBT, $$ spent on preg tests, 3 times needle pokes through vaginal wall.
I asked all my closest friends and relatives to pray and ask God for blessings. My grandma went to church, I prayed every day. I Thanked God for giving us a chance to be parents.
Don't give up! Don't ever give up. Don't you ever ever give up!
SYMPTOMS CHECKER: temps went up after transfer
1.CD14 transfer day-pain on the right ovary, cramping, headache.
2. CD15 1dpt less cramping, headache, ovary pain, needle feeling on the uterus for a few seconds.
3. CD16 2dpt urine cramp, uterine contractions
4. CD17
5 CD18 stressed out
6 CD19 breast tingle, nausea after breakfast
7. CD20 stressed out, tired all day, nausea breakfast and pm
8.CD21 uterine contraction, breast tingle
9. CD22 , stuffy nose, uterine contractions, dizzy pm, bad sleep,BFN
10. CD23 stuffy nose, migraine
11. CD24 tired, stuffy nose,
12. CD25 blood test negative, cried, depressed
13. CD26
14. CD27
SECOND IVF SUMMARY
Sept 14th HCG trigger at 11pm, Egg retrieved on Monday Sept 16th, ET(8A) Sept19th, Beta on 30th of September BFN.
IVF nr3
OCTOBER3rd
First day of the period was the hardest. It was real. I felt empty, lonely and heartbroken. We lit the candle for those tiny cells, tiny embryo in the church. It had genetic code, features and character, boy or girl it was there... It tuned to an angel and we'll meet him in heaven.
CD1 Heavy(heating pad) 1 maca
CD2 medium(heating pad) 2 maca
CD3 light (heating pad) 2maca
CD4 light (heating pad) 2 maca
CD5 light(heating pad) 2 maca, egwcm
CD6 spotting 4maca, egwcm
CD7 spotting red 4maca, egwcm
CD8 spotting br. 16mm follicle, 8mm uterine lining 2maca,egwcm,
LH 4.7 U/I
estrogen 135.8 pg/ml
CD9 spot with wipe, headache all day 2 maca,egcm
CD10 -OPK, -OPK,HCG shot 9:15pm, egwcm thicker 4maca
CD11 BFP, 2maca, wet, egwcm with drop of blood
CD12 Egg retrieval successful!
The retrieval was a little painful this time. I don't like when dr. tells "now we'll begin" I get stressed out because of those words. I felt my ovary moved and it did hurt. Dr. told me that a follicle was on the other side of the ovary, so she had to go accross it to reach a follicle. She said we can't tell an ovary where to grow a follicle
. You suppose to laugh, but it's not funny
No blood was lost. That's a good. We stayed in the hospital for an hour. I felt some pain so I wanted to wait, I didn't want to pass out again. I had 3 cups of water and in an hour I was feeling great ,we went home.
CD13 An egg is fertilised. Sarting 600mg progesterone today.
3rd IVF summary
Natural cycle IVF: Ultrasound on Thursday 16mm follicle, Sat. HCG at 9:15pm, Monday ER on 8:15am, transfer Wednesday at 10am.
Wishes ffom friends:
That is great news. I am so happy for you. I know it's such a feeling of wonder when you realize that you finally have your fertilized egg living thing inside you. Wishing you lots of healthy growth and that your little miracle makes itself comfortable in there. I'm sure it feels your love. Happy 2ww! It's so hard to be patient when you've been patient so long but I am hoping and praying for strong little embies for us both.
Lots of BFP news to come on this thread I hope! Yay!!
NOVEMBER
4th IVFChange the clinic and very happy about this decision. My new RE told me I have a flexed uterus, the end of it is leaning towards the bladder. Maybe that's why I have cramping during urinate after ovulation.
CD8 U/S R ovary 16mm
CD11 HcG 11pm
CD13 egg retrieval
CD 14 3 pronucleus
This cycle failed. We don't know why. Maybe Sperm or ovary had chromosomal problems.
5th IVF DECEMBERCD8 R ovary 18mm, 9.3mm uterine lining
CD9 HCG trigger 12:30am
CD11 ER. no painkillers. New dr. didn't want my hubby in OP, but I convinced her he must be with me.
CD12 fertilised
CD13 transfered 4B cell embryo. It went very smooth. Feel confident my RE did a good job. I saw a catheter and a little bubble on the U/S. After ET I felt some cervical activity.
CD14 more cervical, uterine activity. Brevactid shot 1500IE in the evening.
CD15
CD16 Brevactid shot 1500 ie, headache
CD17 cramping pm
cd18 cramping pm
cd19 Brevactid shot 1500ie cramping
cd25 af cramps
cd26 bad migraine pm
cd27 bfn
cd29bfn spotting
cd30 spotting still on progesterone
cd31 spotting
cd32 red, AF started
I feel like doing nothing on January. Feeling hopeless///....
I feel like checking my uterus for abnormalities with saline ultrasound and flushing my tubes.
I feel like BD on my O day and take progesterone after. Hope for miracle...
6th IVF JANUARY
on CD 10 we came to the office to talk about failed IVF and we found 20mm follicle. Trying again.
WE retrived and egg, but it didn't fertilise correctly(3 pronucleous).
RE is positive we havn't met a healthy embryo yet.
My plan is to rest for 3 month, recharge our batteries, enjoy more sunshine and try again in Spring. Hopefully we'll have stimulated IVF in USA.
IUI in February
open tubes contrast ultrasound revealed
CD7 12mm follicle and tubes are checked
CD11 L 13.6 R 14.6 lining 7.2
CD13 L13.6 R 16mm
CD15 L13.6 R 19.6
CD16 L13.6 R 20.6 , uterine lining 14mm, IUI 12mil sperms are swimming in me
waiting for O pain and temp raise and than start progesterone (CD19 dr. told me to start)
I have Ovulated:
1. In the morning my temp was very low 36.3.
2. My follicle was 20.6mm during IUI at 12pm. Mature follicle any time will burst.
BD'ed hour later no pain. Feeling wet firtile mucous.
3. In the evening I got O pain. 9:30pm
4. In the morning my temp went up 36.6 and stayed high....
5. That day we BD'ed in the evening I had O pain, was very uncomfortable
Conclusion:
I had IUI before my O. My egg started to burst from the ovary that evening. The temp went up next morning. I Ovulated. The pain I had during BD that evening was the fluid irritating my pelvis cos of the bursted follicle.
I beleave the sperm met an egg. Hope and pray>
Febr 27th
I am CD 35, I am 19dpiui, my Luteal fase is never ever longer than 16-17 days. I quit progest. 4 days ago. I am so scared that it may be a big mistake!
I had long cycle before, but I o'ed late.
This cycle too I o'ed late on day CD16.
I had HSG done last month, could this mess up my cycle?
I had a second follicle growing. Maybe it turned to a cyst?
I had my worst PMS ever 2 days ago. My hubby blames progesterone. WE had a big fight and slept in separate rooms.
He hasn't drank for 4 days a drop, and I am hormonal. We both are crazy.....
WE canceled IVF lab on Tuesday. First time ever!!! WE didn't deliver sperm for DNA.
I canceled my hair stylist...No color for my hair this week.
I don't have a test at home
I'll save my morning urine in the fridge and test later.
I am really freaking out.
I can't beleave this happening to me!
BFN IUI#1
MARCH IUI#2
BFN
April IVF #7
at 14dpo home test
Beta at 16dpo 521
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due date 3day transfer
Estimated Due Date is 12/29/2014
Gestational Age Today is 4 week(s), 3 day(s) or 1.02 month(s) months.
Date of Conception 4/7/2014
First Fetal Heart Tones by Doppler: 6/9/2014 to 6/16/2014 (11 to 12 w)
End First Trimester: 6/23/2014
Blood Draw for Serum Integrated Screening: 6/2/2014 to 6/29/2014 (10 w to 13 w 6d )
Nuchal Translucency (NT) Ultrasound: 6/11/2014 to 7/2/2014 (11w 2d to 14 w 2d )
Quad Marker Screening: 7/7/2014 to 8/11/2014 (15 w to 20 w)
Best time to evaluate cervical length in patient with risk factors . After :7/14/2014 (16 w)
Best time for routine anatomy ultrasound: 7/28/2014 to 8/11/2014 (18 to 20 w)
2h OGTT in women not previously diagnosed with diabetes: 9/8/2014 to 10/6/2014 (24 w to 28 w)
Anti-D prophylaxis for women who are (RhD) Negative: 10/6/2014 (28 w)
Antepartum Fetal Surveillance in High Risk Patients: 11/3/2014 to 11/17/2014 (32 to 34 w)
Screening for Vaginal and Rectal GBS colonization: 11/24/2014 to 12/8/2014 ( 35 to 37 w)
Elective Delivery May Be Scheduled for Singletons After : 12/22/2014 (39 w)
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Things I did new this BFP cycle
1. No castor oil packs this cycle
2. we did assisted embryo hatching
3. we BD'ed before ET and after ET (w/o orgasm)
4. I walked slowly but long after ET, staying active always, no bed rest
5. aspirin 100mg enteric coated started after ER, quit a day for ET(procedure could cause bleeding) and now I am taking it every evening with food and water
6. I ate lots of fish. I am taking 3g fish oil a day
7. 1000mg green tea extract with vitC after ET till BFP. (reduces inflammation responce)
8. Black carraway oil 20 drops a day. now I slow down to 3 drops
9. spoonfull avocado oil
10. pinapple and pinapple core after ET till BFP
11 increased vit D from 2000iu to 3000iu a day
12. iron 100mg a day, quit after BFP
13. Green chlorella increased from 1 pill to 3 pills a day
14. Probiotics one pill a day from ET til BFP
15 Sandorn and lemon juice
16. dandelion salat
17. alfa alfa and sweet peas sprouts
18. layed down 30min after ET
19. eating dried plums and abricots
20. ginger root tea, clove, and cinammon
21. water soaked walnuts and brasil nuts
22. I have used organic menstrual pads for 2 months.
23. banana a day(aspirin can thin my intestines and banana thickens them)
24. spicy food , hot peppers in 2ww
I did a lot. I'll never know what helped us this
You can check out my youtube TTC and pregnancy videos at dovkav
I am starting my natural (spontaneous) IVF cycle treatment in August 2013 In Germany it is called Green fertility. RE will not use any ovary stimulating drugs, only local painkiller during egg retrieval. It is exciting! I'll be happy to share my journey with you!
THis study gave me hope. Many women got preggo in 3rd try.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3169680/
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IVF #1 August 19th update
Hi,
Officially I am on the green fertility schedule.
CD11,14-15mm follicle on Monday and HCG trigger shot at 9:30pm that night.
Wednesday egg retrieval at 8:30am
Probably Friday(after 2days) eggy is going to my incubator!
My RE appointment went really well.
During the ultrasound she saw one follicle but she couldn't tell if I still have an egg in it. It could be only a corpus luteus. Dr. saw some fluid and she predicted that it could mean ruptured follicle, O have happened. I told her I felt some activity couple days ago. We took a blood test and it showed that I haven’t O 'ed yet and I don't have my LH surge yet. The timing is perfect so far!
Blood work was perfect.
LH 6.4mlU/ml
Progest .3 ng/ml
Estrogen 166.9pg/ml
Dr. printed a photo of my follicle.
My dh got tested for HIV, and I got tested for HIV, hepatitis C, hepatitis B.
I asked dr. why should we test now? We didn't know if I O'ed or not, at that time. She told me that those tests are valid for half a year. "You'll come back , right?" She really made me think we'll fail this IVF
However, my dr. was really nice.
She was pleasant, smiling a lot..
She answered all my questions.
1. she gave me 10% success, many embryos doesn't grow in the lab, many women don't get them transferred.
2. I'll not get the same dr. during this treatment.
3. My dr. treats IVF the same way like spontaneous conception. She doesn't believe that laying down after transfer will help with implantation. Embryo will not drop, it will swim for 2 days in the womb till implants. She warned us that it is more chances to get intrauterine, tubal pregnancy with IVF.
4. Taking baby aspirin to increase implantation, the study is inconclusive. I'll research more about it and let you know.
5. I should not take preg test at home. One Patient did it and it was false negative. Do the blood work 14 days after O.
6.My husband can be next to me during retrieval and transfer. We can't make the baby naturally, at least he'll be part of it. It is sooo wonderful!
7. Egg Retrieval risks are horrible. Nothing horrible ever happened from 10000...egg retrieval. Dr. knocks on her head 3 times...pfu, pfu pfu.. But My dh is super sensitive he went detail by detail about it with a dr. She told us important arteries are close by, if she punctures, I could bleed. They may need to cut me open and operate. Fertility clinic is in the main hospital, so I am safe and there will be no time wasted to help me. (every operation has risks, hysteroscopy also had risks, I was fine)
8. Resume the same activities like always after transfer. Just avoid running and heavy physical activities. NO restrictions about sex.
9. Flying in the first trimester is not recommended, but everybody does anyway! Radiation concern and overall early preg. symptoms.
I had a huge scare last night about HCG trigger shot.(Ovitrelle 250microgram) 4 pharmacies didn't have it, they offered to order the next day. I was in shock and had tears in my eyes and I felt was so hopeless I needed that night at 9:30pm. The pharmacist told us to go to another city. Fertility clinic (the one I visited last Thursday is close by), it was a big possibility that they had it. And they did indeed! They were open till 10pm. WE were so blessed and so lucky! Big lesson for the future-please prepare in advance to avoid heartache.
When we picked up meds we had 1 hour till the shot. So we decided to go for a drink and relax. WE went to a brewery-restaurant where my dh dad worked when he was young. I had fresh squeezed orange juice and he had a beer. You can't imagine what we saw on the table! 4 glasses cylinder filled up with vinegar and oil. The ones we used in chemistry lessons for experiments. What a sign! The test tube baby will be made in Germany! Probably this week! I had chills! Pleasant once. It meant to be....
We had only 20 min till my shot, so we decided to stay in the city. I did the shot(my first one ever! and I nailed it, I was sooo proud of myself!) in the car with a view of the light up city, river and a castle. We walked for an hour, hugged and kissed. WE can't make our baby naturally at least we'll have some special romantic moments to remember, and the baby will be sooo special too! My dh wants to be involved 100%, he is making movies and taking photos.
Keep fingers crossed for tomorrow, I hope for the healthy and strong eggy!
Thank you for reading!
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August 21, 2013 One hour before procedure I put a pill of voltaren 50mg in my rectum. we came to the clinic on time, I had to wait for 0,5 an hour for the procedure. In the room I met Prof. she shook my hand and said nice to meet you. She didn’t remembered me? She did my hysteroscopy a month ago! I asked her if the follicle still grew after HCG shot? She said yes. We signed the paper work and I got on the table. My husband was next to me the entire time. I asked her if you don’t get the egg, will you try again? She said no. Prof. had two helpers. The nurse opened the package and took out the longest needle I have ever seen. Prof. wiped my vagina in and out with a salt water and looked at my follicle. She didn’t measure it. She told me it doesn’t matter. I wanted to know, how big it was during retrieval. Prof. poked the needle and sucked the follicle’s fluid. I saw everything on the screen. I felt pain only when the needle pierced my skin. She poured the fluid in the cylinder tube glass and brought to another room to look at the egg. She came back with a bad news, no egg is found. She will try again if I want to. I agreed she sucked more fluid from the follicle and the second time she had no luck. Prof, explained to us that it could be an empty follicle, some women have it once in a while. Or an egg is still stuck to the wall of the follicle and is going to leave it any minute. Maybe the egg left with a first time needle withdrawal.? we'll never now.She asked about my tubes. Are they open?. I told her we don’t know, they may. I had a pelvic surgery, we blame the tubes for infertility. If my tubes are open but they are not functioning, we may have a tubal preg. Sperm has easy ride to the tubes aftetr IUi. Dr. suggested to do IUI and we agreed.
My dh had to collect his sperm, we went to a special room for that. I helped him We want to be involved 100!% in this project! We had to wait for 1 hour for sperm to be ready to inseminate. WE were sitting in the waiting room and I felt little nausea and suddenly, dizzy, I saw lights flashing in front of my eyes. I told to Gary I am dizzy, I am dizzy, ask for help! He ran to the right knocked at the doors, nobody opened. He went to the left and receptionist Marla, lab technician and dr. All ran to me and they found me laying on the floor. I laid down by myself because I knew it will help me. Dr. checked my blood pressure it was 90/40. Marla held my legs up in the air. The girls put me in bed, covered with a sheet, because I was shivering. Everybody were so nice to me I'll never forget how nurse cuddled me in the blanket.Dr. had a hard time putting IV in my arm, because my veins collapsed. Gary demanded for an ultrasound, he was worried about the internal bleeding. I was fine. Dr. calmed us down, it couldn’t be infection, it is too early. She said that vagus nerve over responded to the peritoneal area fluid leakage. Dr. rolled me to another room for recovery. After egg aspiration through the vaginal wall, I had low abdominal cramps just for an hour. Gary’s sperm was ready for insemination. His sperm morphology was fine but motility was little low. 28% and suppose to be 32%. Dr. made sure that it was Gary’s sperm and she made sure that it was me laying on the table. During this procedure, I didn’t feel pain at all. I only felt uncomfortable when Dr. put tool to open my cervix.
Dr. orders was to BD that night because sperm has peptides that helps with firtilisation.
After HCG shot my egg suppose to mature more. The flollicle grows about 2mm a day. So on Monday morning it was 16mm. On Wednesday morning probably 20mm. In the past I had a 20mm follicle and I felt my O that night. I beleave that the timing was perfect.
I am on progesteron now. I take 2 pills (200mg) in the evening.
I have a tiny hope with a huge help of magic. We did 2 things different this month IUI and progesteron.
Thank you for reading.
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September 2nd update
BFN this morning 12dpo.
My temps are down too. I am taking progesterone. I beleave they should stay high with this hormone. I never had any side effects, maybe I am not responding well to it?
I want to quit it and wait for my period. I hope we are staying couple more months in Germany. I would do 2 more natural cycle IVF and then I'll convince my Dh for a standart one.
My blood test is due on Wednesday. I don't think I should do it. No egg, no embryo...This cycle is hopless.
I'll test again till then.
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CD25, BFN,Sept 2nd
CD26, BFN, Sept 3rd
CD28, BFN, Sept 5th
CD25, I took only one progesterone
CD26, I quit
My AF showed up 3days later
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IVF NR.2SEPTEMBER 13th, Friday 11am
Update from a visit to RE
CD8,We found beautiful round follicle 18mm on my left side(last month was on the right).
Blood tests were great. My LH hasn't spyked yet.
HCG trigger shot on Saturday 11pm
Egg retrieval on Monday at 10am.
My blood tests were perfect
LH 3.7 mlU/ml
Estrogen 153.7pg/ml(150-200 mature follicle)
progesterone .5 ng/ml
SEPTEMBER 16TH
Egg is retrieved. Procedure went well. I felt pain only when the dr. pull out the needle. Not a big deal. After that, no pain at all!
SEPTEMBER 17TH
Egg is fertilised
SEPTEMBER 19TH
Embryo 8A is transfered.
It takes 2 days to implant in my uterus.
SEPTEMBER 30TH
Beta-valio!valio!valio! Hooray!
I am not alone anymore! September 19th
Embryo transfer was a little bit complicated dr. couldn't get into my cervix to my womb with a catheter, she let this perform to another dr. and she did it but my hubby saw she had to push an emby in. I read in literature, that when cervix gets triggered too much, oxytoxin hormone gets elevated and that increases uterine contractions. No good.
We saw a photo of embryo 8cell A grade 3 days old. He is perfect!
WE saw a follicle first last week, today an embryo. We are so blessed to experience live growing. A reward for all dark days and dissapoinments.
Sept 30th is a blood test.
Dr. orders: no baths and sex for 4 days, no heavy lifting and exercise. Stay warm and rest.
2 years of infirtility, pages of BBT, $$ spent on preg tests, 3 times needle pokes through vaginal wall.
I asked all my closest friends and relatives to pray and ask God for blessings. My grandma went to church, I prayed every day. I Thanked God for giving us a chance to be parents.
Don't give up! Don't ever give up. Don't you ever ever give up!
SYMPTOMS CHECKER: temps went up after transfer
1.CD14 transfer day-pain on the right ovary, cramping, headache.
2. CD15 1dpt less cramping, headache, ovary pain, needle feeling on the uterus for a few seconds.
3. CD16 2dpt urine cramp, uterine contractions
4. CD17
5 CD18 stressed out
6 CD19 breast tingle, nausea after breakfast
7. CD20 stressed out, tired all day, nausea breakfast and pm
8.CD21 uterine contraction, breast tingle
9. CD22 , stuffy nose, uterine contractions, dizzy pm, bad sleep,BFN
10. CD23 stuffy nose, migraine
11. CD24 tired, stuffy nose,
12. CD25 blood test negative, cried, depressed
13. CD26
14. CD27
SECOND IVF SUMMARY
Sept 14th HCG trigger at 11pm, Egg retrieved on Monday Sept 16th, ET(8A) Sept19th, Beta on 30th of September BFN.
IVF nr3
OCTOBER3rd
First day of the period was the hardest. It was real. I felt empty, lonely and heartbroken. We lit the candle for those tiny cells, tiny embryo in the church. It had genetic code, features and character, boy or girl it was there... It tuned to an angel and we'll meet him in heaven.
CD1 Heavy(heating pad) 1 maca
CD2 medium(heating pad) 2 maca
CD3 light (heating pad) 2maca
CD4 light (heating pad) 2 maca
CD5 light(heating pad) 2 maca, egwcm
CD6 spotting 4maca, egwcm
CD7 spotting red 4maca, egwcm
CD8 spotting br. 16mm follicle, 8mm uterine lining 2maca,egwcm,
LH 4.7 U/I
estrogen 135.8 pg/ml
CD9 spot with wipe, headache all day 2 maca,egcm
CD10 -OPK, -OPK,HCG shot 9:15pm, egwcm thicker 4maca
CD11 BFP, 2maca, wet, egwcm with drop of blood
CD12 Egg retrieval successful!
The retrieval was a little painful this time. I don't like when dr. tells "now we'll begin" I get stressed out because of those words. I felt my ovary moved and it did hurt. Dr. told me that a follicle was on the other side of the ovary, so she had to go accross it to reach a follicle. She said we can't tell an ovary where to grow a follicle
. You suppose to laugh, but it's not funny No blood was lost. That's a good. We stayed in the hospital for an hour. I felt some pain so I wanted to wait, I didn't want to pass out again. I had 3 cups of water and in an hour I was feeling great ,we went home.CD13 An egg is fertilised. Sarting 600mg progesterone today.
3rd IVF summary
Natural cycle IVF: Ultrasound on Thursday 16mm follicle, Sat. HCG at 9:15pm, Monday ER on 8:15am, transfer Wednesday at 10am.
Wishes ffom friends:
That is great news. I am so happy for you. I know it's such a feeling of wonder when you realize that you finally have your fertilized egg living thing inside you. Wishing you lots of healthy growth and that your little miracle makes itself comfortable in there. I'm sure it feels your love. Happy 2ww! It's so hard to be patient when you've been patient so long but I am hoping and praying for strong little embies for us both.
Lots of BFP news to come on this thread I hope! Yay!!
NOVEMBER
4th IVFChange the clinic and very happy about this decision. My new RE told me I have a flexed uterus, the end of it is leaning towards the bladder. Maybe that's why I have cramping during urinate after ovulation.
CD8 U/S R ovary 16mm
CD11 HcG 11pm
CD13 egg retrieval
CD 14 3 pronucleus
This cycle failed. We don't know why. Maybe Sperm or ovary had chromosomal problems.
5th IVF DECEMBERCD8 R ovary 18mm, 9.3mm uterine lining
CD9 HCG trigger 12:30am
CD11 ER. no painkillers. New dr. didn't want my hubby in OP, but I convinced her he must be with me.
CD12 fertilised
CD13 transfered 4B cell embryo. It went very smooth. Feel confident my RE did a good job. I saw a catheter and a little bubble on the U/S. After ET I felt some cervical activity.
CD14 more cervical, uterine activity. Brevactid shot 1500IE in the evening.
CD15
CD16 Brevactid shot 1500 ie, headache
CD17 cramping pm
cd18 cramping pm
cd19 Brevactid shot 1500ie cramping
cd25 af cramps
cd26 bad migraine pm
cd27 bfn
cd29bfn spotting
cd30 spotting still on progesterone
cd31 spotting
cd32 red, AF started
I feel like doing nothing on January. Feeling hopeless///....
I feel like checking my uterus for abnormalities with saline ultrasound and flushing my tubes.
I feel like BD on my O day and take progesterone after. Hope for miracle...
6th IVF JANUARY
on CD 10 we came to the office to talk about failed IVF and we found 20mm follicle. Trying again.
WE retrived and egg, but it didn't fertilise correctly(3 pronucleous).
RE is positive we havn't met a healthy embryo yet.
My plan is to rest for 3 month, recharge our batteries, enjoy more sunshine and try again in Spring. Hopefully we'll have stimulated IVF in USA.
IUI in February
open tubes contrast ultrasound revealed
CD7 12mm follicle and tubes are checked
CD11 L 13.6 R 14.6 lining 7.2
CD13 L13.6 R 16mm
CD15 L13.6 R 19.6
CD16 L13.6 R 20.6 , uterine lining 14mm, IUI 12mil sperms are swimming in me
waiting for O pain and temp raise and than start progesterone (CD19 dr. told me to start)
I have Ovulated:
1. In the morning my temp was very low 36.3.
2. My follicle was 20.6mm during IUI at 12pm. Mature follicle any time will burst.
BD'ed hour later no pain. Feeling wet firtile mucous.
3. In the evening I got O pain. 9:30pm
4. In the morning my temp went up 36.6 and stayed high....
5. That day we BD'ed in the evening I had O pain, was very uncomfortable
Conclusion:
I had IUI before my O. My egg started to burst from the ovary that evening. The temp went up next morning. I Ovulated. The pain I had during BD that evening was the fluid irritating my pelvis cos of the bursted follicle.
I beleave the sperm met an egg. Hope and pray>
Febr 27th
I am CD 35, I am 19dpiui, my Luteal fase is never ever longer than 16-17 days. I quit progest. 4 days ago. I am so scared that it may be a big mistake!
I had long cycle before, but I o'ed late.
This cycle too I o'ed late on day CD16.
I had HSG done last month, could this mess up my cycle?
I had a second follicle growing. Maybe it turned to a cyst?
I had my worst PMS ever 2 days ago. My hubby blames progesterone. WE had a big fight and slept in separate rooms.
He hasn't drank for 4 days a drop, and I am hormonal. We both are crazy.....
WE canceled IVF lab on Tuesday. First time ever!!! WE didn't deliver sperm for DNA.
I canceled my hair stylist...No color for my hair this week.
I don't have a test at home
I'll save my morning urine in the fridge and test later.
I am really freaking out.
I can't beleave this happening to me!
BFN IUI#1
MARCH IUI#2
BFN
April IVF #7
at 14dpo home testBeta at 16dpo 521
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due date 3day transfer
Estimated Due Date is 12/29/2014
Gestational Age Today is 4 week(s), 3 day(s) or 1.02 month(s) months.
Date of Conception 4/7/2014
First Fetal Heart Tones by Doppler: 6/9/2014 to 6/16/2014 (11 to 12 w)
End First Trimester: 6/23/2014
Blood Draw for Serum Integrated Screening: 6/2/2014 to 6/29/2014 (10 w to 13 w 6d )
Nuchal Translucency (NT) Ultrasound: 6/11/2014 to 7/2/2014 (11w 2d to 14 w 2d )
Quad Marker Screening: 7/7/2014 to 8/11/2014 (15 w to 20 w)
Best time to evaluate cervical length in patient with risk factors . After :7/14/2014 (16 w)
Best time for routine anatomy ultrasound: 7/28/2014 to 8/11/2014 (18 to 20 w)
2h OGTT in women not previously diagnosed with diabetes: 9/8/2014 to 10/6/2014 (24 w to 28 w)
Anti-D prophylaxis for women who are (RhD) Negative: 10/6/2014 (28 w)
Antepartum Fetal Surveillance in High Risk Patients: 11/3/2014 to 11/17/2014 (32 to 34 w)
Screening for Vaginal and Rectal GBS colonization: 11/24/2014 to 12/8/2014 ( 35 to 37 w)
Elective Delivery May Be Scheduled for Singletons After : 12/22/2014 (39 w)
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Things I did new this BFP cycle
1. No castor oil packs this cycle
2. we did assisted embryo hatching
3. we BD'ed before ET and after ET (w/o orgasm)
4. I walked slowly but long after ET, staying active always, no bed rest
5. aspirin 100mg enteric coated started after ER, quit a day for ET(procedure could cause bleeding) and now I am taking it every evening with food and water
6. I ate lots of fish. I am taking 3g fish oil a day
7. 1000mg green tea extract with vitC after ET till BFP. (reduces inflammation responce)
8. Black carraway oil 20 drops a day. now I slow down to 3 drops
9. spoonfull avocado oil
10. pinapple and pinapple core after ET till BFP
11 increased vit D from 2000iu to 3000iu a day
12. iron 100mg a day, quit after BFP
13. Green chlorella increased from 1 pill to 3 pills a day
14. Probiotics one pill a day from ET til BFP
15 Sandorn and lemon juice
16. dandelion salat
17. alfa alfa and sweet peas sprouts
18. layed down 30min after ET
19. eating dried plums and abricots
20. ginger root tea, clove, and cinammon
21. water soaked walnuts and brasil nuts
22. I have used organic menstrual pads for 2 months.
23. banana a day(aspirin can thin my intestines and banana thickens them)
24. spicy food , hot peppers in 2ww
I did a lot. I'll never know what helped us this
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