7th Natural cycle IVF(w/o meds) and finally BFP!

[dovkav123]

I think and ideal food to eat is
1. some lean animal protein( twice or once a day)
2. a lot plant protein
3. some fruit(organic better)
4. some carbohydrates (only whole wheat)
5. unlimited low carb veggies(organic better)

I found dark chocolate with stevia, we'll see if can tolerate that.

My hubby procrastinates too all the time.
He was good with all IVFs, except he canceled a dna fragm test one time.
Your hubby worries for nothing.
Tell him that the results will be so good, you can't wait to celebrate with him. Maybe do something fun together with only little beer...

 

[Briss]

My DH could not stand the pressure anymore and went away to a gold club for the entire weekend...

I am researching Vitamin D, I am taking 4,000 IU of solgar brand but apparently it needs to be in an oil capsule. Can you recommend a good brand for vitamin D in an oil capsule rather than a solid tablet? I am reading this book on egg quality and it says that Vitamin D is a fat-soluble vitamin so for best absorption is should be taken with some fat/oil. I have been searching but it seems most of our usual brands do not produce vitamin D in an oil capsule. So far only found Natural Stacks™ Vitamin D3 which is 5,000 IU of D3 with 100 mg of Organic Coconut Oil in each capsule.https://naturalstacks.com/products/vitamin-d3 Do you think coconut oil is safe while TTC?

I had my first sugar in a week, added two tea spoons of fructose to my morning coffee. even though it's fruit sugar I know it's still not good cos it has the same effect as normal sugar but still so far I have been doing really great, not a single chocolate or sweet or pastry or anything like that all week and I have no craving!! I am doing about 70-80 gm of protein a day which I think is good and twice as much as I had before.

 

[dovkav123]

cinammon slows down sugar spikes...very good for diabetics

Yes. Vit D is a fat sloluable. It means it get stored in the body, it easy to overdose. Yes. you need to take it with fat.

My vit D: I take Vigantoletten 1000 IE tabletten vit D3, Form: Colecalciferol, filler is sugar and soja oil.

In the pharmacy they cost around 8 euro for 100 pills. I take 3 a day.

 

[Briss]

Thank you!! do they look like this?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vitamin-D3...qid=1397296516&sr=8-1&keywords=Colecalciferol

 

[dovkav123]

my pills are very small and white, not in capsule in tablet form
It is a different brand, but this brand looks good, you should buy it.

 

[dovkav123]

coconut oil is a very healthy, esspecially for frying.
Natural health specialist recommend to use it as a lubricant, it's anit-bacterial, anti-inflammatory

 

[Briss]

I started spotting it'd only 10 DPO am devastated as if I did not have enough problems to deal with like low sperm count and high FSH I now need to deal with pre AF spotting which has never been my issue. truly depressing

 

[dovkav123]

I had lots of spotting 2 years ago. I had spotting before O and before AF. SOmetimes I had to put carefree in my panties cos I had brown wet, thick stuff.
Only in August-Dec IVFs I got on progesterone, I had no more spotting before AF, no more spot before O

I did apply castor oil before O when I started my IVFs.
Dr. couldn't explain to me why I was spotting...


Look, Briss
From 11 months I had only 2 months spot free. My hormones were OK, my follicles were growing, my periods did got shorter on January in 2013, from 8 days where reduced to 7 and now to 6. Shorter was my period, less flow and pain.. My LH stayed always the same 16-17 days. I started anti-inflamm diet around that time, maybe that was the reason of my period change.

I think that cycles are changing throught the time and it doesn't mean you need to blame your FSH.
Diet, stress, meds can cause some changes too.

Your LH is consistent in lenght. THis is great. Nothing to worry about.
One thing I could worry about, if your spotting increases from brown turns to red, then it means your LH is shortening.
If you are spotting before your period, you should take some progesterone. During IVF you'll take it.
Could you check your progesterone levels 7 days after O? It needs to be 30ng/ml and higher. You should ask your DR for progesterone now, your hubby's sperm is better now maybe you have a chance??!
I beleave your estrogen numbers are good, cos you have plenty fertile mucous.

Remember after stims you had a very lond period. Now it is normal again.

I hope you'll enjoy this nice Sunday.
You have tested. It is always a possiblity..
Sending your warm wishes and thougths.

 

[DBZ34]

Hi dovkav!!

How are things going? How are you feeling? I know your testing day is coming up soon. I just stopped by to see how you were.

 

[dovkav123]

Thank you for thinking of me!
Since 8dpo my cramping stopped. No symtomps so far. I am 11 dpo.
Testing on Easter Monday. I know I can hold on to that day.
How is your 2ww?

Happy Easter!

 

[dovkav123]

BFP

14dpo Clearblue digital

speechless.....

 

[DBZ34]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!





OMG!!! Dovkav!!!!! I am so freaking excited for you!!

DH just gave me the crazy eye because I yelled so loud when I saw your post. lol. But, seriously, I am so so so happy for you!!

You so deserve it. All your hard work has paid off. I was feeling down today, but you've picked me right back up with this news.

Congratulations, Dovkav!!! H&H 9 months!

 

[DBZ34]

Oh, and my tww....not nearly as exciting as this.

 

[Briss]

BFP

14dpo Clearblue digital

speechless.....

OMG!!!!

am so happy for you!! dovkav, this is amazing! such happy news at last!

did you do anything different this cycle? was the embryo better quality than before?

 

[dovkav123]

How are you, Briss?
I did many different things this time and my embryo quality was not better. It is always A or B. This one was B.

1. No castor oil packs this cycle
2. we did assisted embryo hatching
3. we BD'ed before ET and after ET (w/o orgasm)
4. I walked slowly but long after ET, staying active always, no bed rest
5. aspirin 100mg enteric coated started after ER, quit a day for ET(procedure could cause bleeding) and now I am taking it every evening with food and water
6. I ate lots of fish. I am taking 3g fish oil a day
7. 1000mg green tea extract with vitC after ET till BFP. (reduces inflammation responce)
8. Black carraway oil 20 drops a day. now I slow down to 3 drops
9. spoonfull avocado oil
10. pinapple and pinapple core after ET till BFP
11 increased vit D from 2000iu to 3000iu a day
12. iron 100mg a day, quit after BFP
13. Green chlorella increased from 1 pill to 3 pills a day
14. Probiotics one pill a day from ET til BFP
15 Sandorn and lemon juice
16. dandelion salat
17. alfa alfa and sweet peas sprouts
18. layed down 30min after ET
19. eating dried plums and abricots
20. ginger root tea, clove, and cinammon
21. water soaked walnuts and brasil nuts
22. I have used organic menstrual pads for 2 months.
23. banana a day(aspirin can thin my intestines and banana thickens them)
24. spicy food , hot peppers in 2ww

I did a lot. I'll never know what helped us this time

 

[Briss]

dovkav, thank you so much for sharing! tbh, I think the key thing was probably assisted embryo hatching but I am sure other things helped you stay healthy. so wonderful!

 

[dovkav123]

How are you, Briss?
I am thinking of you a lot
Do you have any plans for a next IVF roud?
How is your hubby feeling?

My hubby's sperm dna results came back normal. I'ts 5, reference range is <15

2 cases of 3 pronucleus embryo was an egg's fault.

what happened to 3 other embryos?

Was it implantation problem?

On the other hand we did 7 IVF's with 6 egg retrievals, it may be equal to 6 cycles of a natural TTC. ON average it takes one year for a couple to conceive. It could be jus a right time and a lucky healthy month. Aspirin and assited hatching may not did a thing???!

 

[Briss]

Hi dovkav, very happy to hear from you. I hope you are doing well. you are my inspiration! it's great that DNA fragm came back normal but obviously by that time you were already pregnant

we are not doing that well to be honest, DH has ben on hormonal medication for 6 months but his SA did not improve at all so it seems like there is very little we can do about the sperm. I have been doing acu/herbs with a different doctor that specialises on high FSH and have been monitoring my FSH levels but they seem to be fluctuating rather than going down and are still very high. we are waiting for IVf clinic to confirm if we can get one funded stim IVF cycle but it's taking ages and most likely 2 more months before we can start. feeling very hopeless at the moment

 

[dovkav123]

I am sorry about how you feel
Hope and pray you'll get funded your next IVF soon and you'll be lucky at your 3rd try.
Sending you tons of blessings

 

[Briss]

a good article on natural IVF https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...features/ivf-with-a-gentle-touch-2277983.html

I am in a similar situation: poor sperm + high FSH I found it really encouraging

In older women with high levels of FSH, the success rate of natural-cycle IVF is equal to or greater than conventional IVF. This is because it favours egg quality and implantation of the embryo in the womb lining.

"It doesn't matter that a woman's FSH levels are high. As long as a woman has a menstrual cycle and is ovulating, she has a chance of getting pregnant,"

"I was also able to undergo nine IVF attempts in a relatively short period of time. With standard IVF you need to wait two or three months to recover. But with natural IVF, I could start a new cycle as soon as I knew the previous cycle had not worked."

"Because Andrew cannot produce mature sperm, my eggs had to be fertilised with ICSI. Despite this difficulty, over nine cycles of natural-cycle IVF, I got pregnant three times. The first pregnancy was lost but I became pregnant again after six attempts and gave birth to my daughter, Georgina."