Chart and/or monitor experts?

[sadangel777]

Hi guys,

I just got crosshairs on FF (see below) but they are dotted and my fertility monitor (ovacue) confirmed I OV on tuesday but it is questionable and says I may also have OV on thursday.

The pattern also suggests a possible fallback rise. What do you think? I BD Monday, but DH isn't feeling well today so ... I just want to know if I have a shot.

Do people who normally see a fallback rise often get one each cycle? I'm not a chart expert at all so I was just wondering what you all think.

Thank you!

 

[kerrbear7183]

To me it doesn't look like you've ovulated yet. From what I understand, the fallback rise is when the temp rises immediately after ovulation, dips at 2dpo then rises back up at 3dpo. Your temps don't seem to follow that pattern either.

As far as the ovacue, do you chart on ovagraph? If you do, could you post a link so I can look at your chart? I use the ovacue monitor, too. Sometimes you have to be able to interpret the raw readings. The colored boxes on the monitor populate based on the cycle length entered in the monitor. If your cycle length varies, you won't always be able to go by the boxes.

 

[sadangel777]

Thanks! No, I don't chart on Ovagraph because it's just too much for me to do FF and that, too. My cycles are very regular, though, so I was hoping the boxes were pretty accurate. Now I wish I had bought the Clearblue Easy monitor!

Thanks for the analysis; these numbers all confuse me!

 

[kerrbear7183]

It takes some time, but it ends up being fairly easy to interpret the numbers. I chart my temps and everything on FF. THe only thing I chart on ovagraph anymore is just my ovacue readings. There is a forum on there where you can get help interpreting your readings from women who work with the ovacue and use it themselves. The women on there are very helpful.

The thing with the ovacue is at least it can confirm ovulation. The CBFM can't do that.

 

[Dragonfly84]

Hey I agree, I don't think you've O'd yet either, The dip on cd 13 looks like it could be it, but when I had the VIP membership on FF, the tip indicator said that it is looking for 3 consequtive temperature rises after said O date to confirm it. So on cd 15 and 16, your temps didn't rise following the pattern. I also had a fall back rise last month but it didn't happen until 4 dpo, so i didn't notice it until further along in my chart. Good luck to you!!

 

[sadangel777]

Thank you! Im even more confused today because my temp didnt rise, my crosshairs vanished, but my ovacue vaginal reading doubled from yesterdays which confirms thursday ov ... i thought when i started clomid this would all get easier but its not.

 

[kerrbear7183]

Just keep an eye on your temps and the monitor readings. Did you get a pink box with the higher reading? I tend to get a purple box almost every cycle. It goes up giving me the pink box but then goes back down for a few days before going up again. That's when I get the purple box and most times that is when I ovulated.

 

[sadangel777]

I had a pink box on tuesday and dk purple popped up thursday. yesterday my vag reading doubled and its higher today so ovacue says i ov but bbt still wacky. dont know what to trust.

 

[kerrbear7183]

My last 2 cycles my BBT and ovacue matched. This cycle my ovacue gave me the pink box on Monday (CD24) and the purple box yesterday (CD29). My temps show I ovulated on Wednesday though (CD26). The only thing I can think of is that the ovacue had lower readings from Tuesday to Friday which could have been because I was having EW and watery CM. Yesterday and today it changed to creamier CM that was still stretchy and I had higher readings. It can be so confusing.

 

[sadangel777]

You're right -- this is very confusing!

I got crosshairs again on FF, but I'm pretty sure they're wrong. Says I OV only 2 days after taking my last Clomid, and I didn't get the OV cramping until Friday which is 5 days after it says I OV ...

 

[kerrbear7183]

I would think your chart looks more like you ovulated on Friday. I'm also not so sure I ovulated when it says I did because I had what I think was ovulation pain and mild cramping on Thursday. Who really knows!

 

[sadangel777]

Thanks, kerr. Youre right, its very up in the air! Hopefully we both ov around the time we needed to!

 

[kerrbear7183]

After my temp this morning, FF changed my ovulation day to CD 29 (Saturday) which is also the day that my ovacue confirmed ovulation. We did BD that day which is good. We've been keeping up with every other day before and after ovulation. We did BD every day for 3 days in a row around CD24 because that's when I ovulated last cycle. Hopefully it was enough! I won't be testing now until 9/28 or 9/29. I want to wait until 9/29 because that's my hubby's birthday. When do you plan on testing?

 

[sadangel777]

Wow, sounds really promising!! I hope you get your BFP; it would be awesome if you could give him the good news on his birthday!

I don't know when I will test, but probably not until next week. I'm not sure what day I OV, but I'm pretty sure FF is wrong because it doesn't line up with my cramping or my vag readings. I called my dr and asked if I should be getting a progesterone check like last month even though last month they confirmed OV. Now she wants me to come in and "talk." Yikes.

My DH and I only BD once or twice a cycle, so timing is critical. He won't "put it on the calendar" and when I try to push for more BD, he ends up unable to 'finish' the job. Then we had a huge fight a few days ago because I just want to get an IUI and be done with it, because I feel that's the only way sperm are going to meet my egg for any semblance of a chance.

Maybe Monday's BD will count this month, maybe some survived long enough to meet the egg on whatever day it popped. But I'm not hopeful like I was last month.

Keep me posted when you test, though!!

 

[kerrbear7183]

Thanks and good luck! I think an IUI would be a good idea so there isn't as much pressure for your hubby to perform. Hopefully you're doctor gives some good news.

 

[grace10209]

Wow, sounds really promising!! I hope you get your BFP; it would be awesome if you could give him the good news on his birthday!

I don't know when I will test, but probably not until next week. I'm not sure what day I OV, but I'm pretty sure FF is wrong because it doesn't line up with my cramping or my vag readings. I called my dr and asked if I should be getting a progesterone check like last month even though last month they confirmed OV. Now she wants me to come in and "talk." Yikes.

My DH and I only BD once or twice a cycle, so timing is critical. He won't "put it on the calendar" and when I try to push for more BD, he ends up unable to 'finish' the job. Then we had a huge fight a few days ago because I just want to get an IUI and be done with it, because I feel that's the only way sperm are going to meet my egg for any semblance of a chance.

Maybe Monday's BD will count this month, maybe some survived long enough to meet the egg on whatever day it popped. But I'm not hopeful like I was last month.

Keep me posted when you test, though!!

Hey girl
im sorry you are having trouble with temping, I highly sugggest you get the book 'taking charge of your fertility' - you can get it on amazon and its soooooooo good
and really explains everything about temping and charting. I also wanted to suggest getting OPK's on amazon - you can buy a huge pack and its so much cheaper= but I personally dont like opk's because they are confusing, I just go by my temps and CM.
Im sorry your DH is arguing with you a bit, mine does too. they feel like "we only want them for the sperm" - well OF COURSE WE DO! lol haha
would you DH be willing to do iui?
he would need to drop off a sample and then you usually get the iui a few hrs later?