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lushious09

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i got a letter back today informing me i wasnt entitled to my sure start maternity grant as i am not on income support of job seekers... now when i applied i was in fact on income support!!! but they pi**ed around with my form for so long sendign it back again and again that i eventualy was told im entitled to maternity allowance no one said this would effect my claim as when i claimed i was actually on income support?... so technically when i origionaly applied i was entitled and if they had gotten it right the first 4 times there wouldnt have been an issue... :wacko:i understand it is what it is and theres people out there who need it more but i find this a little agitating as i spent so much time sending it bk again and again :shrug:
 
I'd appeal hun
Doesn't sound right too me (and I work in the jobcentre - for my sins!!)

Lol xx
 
I'm a bit confused hun, are you saying you're not on benefits and therefore thats why you're not entitled to it? Meaning that you're in employment?
 
send in an appeal, hun, sounds totally wrong to me xx
 
They put you on a different benefit at 29 weeks pregnant - called maternity allowance - cos they don't expect you to be 'actively' seeking employment at that point (obviously u can if you want too, but you don't need to go into jobcentre and prove that you are looking) - It is a different benefit to the one's you need to get the grant, but as you said you were on income support when you applied and it should surely go from 'at time of application'??
Have a look on www.direct.gov.uk and see what it says on there?

Lol xx
 
thanks everyone... i have looked on that site but it dosnt specify anything about my case... i did apply when i was on income support at the time but they kept sending the bloomin form back saying midwife hadnt filled it in properly ... they did this to me 4 times... the only reason i was on income support was because i thought i wasnt entitled to maternity allowance :S... then they turn around and tell me i am! so confuzzled
 
if u have no luck, apply again when baby is born you have 3 months ater baby is born as you will be on higher end of child tax credit for a year and to qualify for sure start grant you have to be on higher end of ct, so everyone is automtacally entitled.. major goverment cock up xx
 
two options -
if u have no luck, apply again when baby is born you have 3 months ater baby is born as you will be on higher end of child tax credit for a year and to qualify for sure start grant you have to be on higher end of ct, so everyone is automtacally entitled.. major goverment cock up xx

sorry hun this is wrong, when baby is born you will get a higher rate of tax credits up to child is one. this doesn't count towards your sure start entitlement as it is called your "baby element" which doesn't qualify. you need to be getting the basic element, the baby element AND also an additional award based on your income xx



anyway, you have two options -

one - appeal, telling them you were actually in receipt of income support at the time of application. it might not work as they might turn round and say well you shouldn't have been getting income support anyway as you should have been on maternity allowance so therefore you wouldn't have been entitled to it if you were recieving the correct benefit

two - wait until bubs is born, apply for tax credits - you will probably get more than the basic + baby rate cos of your income, if so, reapply for your sure start grant as you will then qualify. be careful to check when the grant is being reduced with this option though.

good luck xx
 
ee really, iv read this loads, including thread on this site and another well known pregnancy site and been told from people aswel! Im confused now??
 
Also, when baby is born and you apply for your tax credits, if you get tax credits at a certain level u cud be eligible (again...) for the grant. I'm not entitled to it atm as im not on any benefit, but coz I will get a certain level of tax credits when hes born I MAY be eligible for the grant but I wont know until I can apply when he's born x
 
Yup 100%. I work in benefits. Foreword of the claim form below - xx


Can you get a Sure Start Maternity Grant?
You may be able to get a Sure Start Maternity Grant if:
l you or your partner are getting
&#8211; Income Support, or
&#8211; Income-based Jobseeker&#8217;s Allowance, or
&#8211; Income-related Employment and Support Allowance, or
&#8211; State Pension Credit, or
&#8211; Working Tax Credit which includes a disability or severe
disability element, or
&#8211; Child Tax Credit at a rate higher than family element.
From April 2010 to April 2011, this means a rate of £548 a year or
more, or £1095 a year or more if you have a baby under one
. These
figures are for a whole year and will be less for part-years. Your tax
credits award notice will include a breakdown of your award. If your
Child Tax Credit total is greater than the amounts shown as the family
elements you may qualify for a Sure Start Maternity Grant. Note that
your tax credit award is based on your previous year&#8217;s income. If your
income reduces you can ask for your tax credit award to be reviewed.
We use partner to mean
&#8211; a person you are married to or a person you live with as if you are
married to them, or
&#8211; a civil partner or a person you live with as if you are civil partners.
Fill in the form fully by answering all the questions and requests for
information. Your application may be delayed if we do not have all
the information we need.
and
l you need help with buying things for a baby that:
&#8211; has recently been born, or
&#8211; is expected to be born in the next 11 weeks, or
&#8211; you have recently adopted, or
&#8211; is the subject of a residence order, or
&#8211; is the subject of a parental order under Section 30 of the Human
Fertilisation and Embryology Act 1990.
l But you must:
&#8211; be the mother or expectant mother of the baby and you must be
aged 16 or over, or
&#8211; be the partner of the mother or expectant mother, or
&#8211; have adopted the baby, or
&#8211; have been granted a residence order for the baby in certain
circumstances, or
&#8211; be getting benefit for the mother or expectant mother if she is
aged under 20, or
&#8211; have been granted a parental order with your husband or your wife
under Section 30 of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act 1990.
When to claim
l You must claim in the period from 11 weeks before the week your
baby is due until 3 months after the baby is born.
l If you are waiting for a decision on a qualifying benefit or
entitlement, or you have asked for your Child Tax Credit award to be
reviewed, you must still claim within the time limits.
l If you are adopting a baby:
you must claim within 3 months of the date of the adoption order.
The baby must not be more than one year old when you claim.
l If you have been granted a parental order under Section 30 of the
Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act 1990:
you must claim within 3 months of the date you were granted
the order.
l If you have been granted a residence order for a baby:
you must claim within 3 months of the date you were granted the
order. The baby must not be more than one year old when you claim.
 
but that is my point... i was eligable for it when i applied... so i think its a bit of a cheek that they faffed about with my form for so long then turned around and went HA now u cant have it ... :/ i thought maternity allowance was a kinda benefit neway ... its so confuzzling it really is
 
It's pretty rubbish really. Maternity allowance isn't an income based benefit - it's based on your NI/Income Tax contributions!

You can appeal and tell them you were on Income Support at the time of your application but I have a feeling they'll just say that you're not entitled as you shouldn't have been given Income Support in the first place - you should have gone straight onto Maternity Allowance from 29weeks which doesn't qualify you.

However, if Maternity Allowance is your only source of income then you are very very likely to qualify for a higher rate of child tax credits after birth of baby which would then mean you are eligible as long as you claim before your baby is 3months old. xxx
 
Also when you appeal don't tell them you shouldn't have been on Income Support - just say you were on Income Support when you applied but you have now changed to Maternity Allowance. Don't think it'll work as you still shouldn't have got the Income Support but it's worth a shot!

xxx
 
that doesnt make any sense to me haha, i still dont really know if we will qualify but hope you get it sorted
 
It's pretty rubbish really. Maternity allowance isn't an income based benefit - it's based on your NI/Income Tax contributions!
You can appeal and tell them you were on Income Support at the time of your application but I have a feeling they'll just say that you're not entitled as you shouldn't have been given Income Support in the first place - you should have gone straight onto Maternity Allowance from 29weeks which doesn't qualify you.

However, if Maternity Allowance is your only source of income then you are very very likely to qualify for a higher rate of child tax credits after birth of baby which would then mean you are eligible as long as you claim before your baby is 3months old. xxx

Really? Does that mean that I might be entitled then? I don't work and haven't since I had Thomas, but before that paid loads of tax, some at higher rate. I didn't think I could get anything at all, but if I understand what you are saying, then I should be able to get maternity allowance? I am not claiming any benefits at all as hubby works.
 
It's pretty rubbish really. Maternity allowance isn't an income based benefit - it's based on your NI/Income Tax contributions!
You can appeal and tell them you were on Income Support at the time of your application but I have a feeling they'll just say that you're not entitled as you shouldn't have been given Income Support in the first place - you should have gone straight onto Maternity Allowance from 29weeks which doesn't qualify you.

However, if Maternity Allowance is your only source of income then you are very very likely to qualify for a higher rate of child tax credits after birth of baby which would then mean you are eligible as long as you claim before your baby is 3months old. xxx

Really? Does that mean that I might be entitled then? I don't work and haven't since I had Thomas, but before that paid loads of tax, some at higher rate. I didn't think I could get anything at all, but if I understand what you are saying, then I should be able to get maternity allowance? I am not claiming any benefits at all as hubby works.

The qualifying period for MA is 66 weeks before the week before the baby is due and you have to have worked 26 weeks within that period.

If you havent worked since before you had your son you wont qualify.
 
It's pretty rubbish really. Maternity allowance isn't an income based benefit - it's based on your NI/Income Tax contributions!
You can appeal and tell them you were on Income Support at the time of your application but I have a feeling they'll just say that you're not entitled as you shouldn't have been given Income Support in the first place - you should have gone straight onto Maternity Allowance from 29weeks which doesn't qualify you.

However, if Maternity Allowance is your only source of income then you are very very likely to qualify for a higher rate of child tax credits after birth of baby which would then mean you are eligible as long as you claim before your baby is 3months old. xxx

Really? Does that mean that I might be entitled then? I don't work and haven't since I had Thomas, but before that paid loads of tax, some at higher rate. I didn't think I could get anything at all, but if I understand what you are saying, then I should be able to get maternity allowance? I am not claiming any benefits at all as hubby works.

The qualifying period for MA is 66 weeks before the week before the baby is due and you have to have worked 26 weeks within that period.

If you havent worked since before you had your son you wont qualify.

No, I was trying to work it out. I didn't leave employment until October 2009 when Thomas turned 1 (although I was on maternity leave, I was still employed) but I still don't think I did the required 26 weeks within the 66 week period. My brain hurts just trying to work it out!
 
It's pretty rubbish really. Maternity allowance isn't an income based benefit - it's based on your NI/Income Tax contributions!
You can appeal and tell them you were on Income Support at the time of your application but I have a feeling they'll just say that you're not entitled as you shouldn't have been given Income Support in the first place - you should have gone straight onto Maternity Allowance from 29weeks which doesn't qualify you.

However, if Maternity Allowance is your only source of income then you are very very likely to qualify for a higher rate of child tax credits after birth of baby which would then mean you are eligible as long as you claim before your baby is 3months old. xxx

Really? Does that mean that I might be entitled then? I don't work and haven't since I had Thomas, but before that paid loads of tax, some at higher rate. I didn't think I could get anything at all, but if I understand what you are saying, then I should be able to get maternity allowance? I am not claiming any benefits at all as hubby works.

The qualifying period for MA is 66 weeks before the week before the baby is due and you have to have worked 26 weeks within that period.

If you havent worked since before you had your son you wont qualify.

No, I was trying to work it out. I didn't leave employment until October 2009 when Thomas turned 1 (although I was on maternity leave, I was still employed) but I still don't think I did the required 26 weeks within the 66 week period. My brain hurts just trying to work it out!

Your 66 weeks would start around the 16th July 2009 - 26 weeks from then would be around 22nd Jan 2010 so it looks like you will miss out :(
 

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