Lack of intimacy & dtd

[Juniperjules]

Briss, I buy mine online. Have bought it recently from a online only company which is coincidently in melbourne. Then found another place also in Melb but think that may have been a scam bcos it never arrived & they won't contact me!! So have got PayPal dealing with it & will hopefully get my money back soon.

So, ill have to order some more now. I did find a place in the US which was also a good price so maybe ill try them. I want 200mg caps to avoid taking a handful of them everyday ; )

To be honest, I'd have to look back to see if I can find any of the online info I'd read about Ubiquinol vs ubiquinone (CoQ10). I do remember that basically the Ubiquinol is more bio available, meaning ur body doesn't have to break it down to get to the 'good stuff' that ur body can then use. One of the articles I read said something along the lines of in older people Ubiquinol is the better choice bcos as we age it gets harder for our bodies to effectively break down the ubiquinone. I just know that whatever I read, I was convinced that I should definitely be taking the Ubiquinol if I want to try & make the most of the 'cell renewing' properties of it. And the price difference is huge. But I think worth it. I'll see if I can find any of the stuff I read... I might have saved the links on my phone.

Having said that, it's a personal choice of course- so if u feel that ur just as well with the Ubiquinone then stick with it.

 

[nobump]

Should be feeling positive, manage to get some action on Sunday after hubby had said he was too tired. Bit early in my cycle, but maybe a start to a more productive month. But just feel like shit today. IBS was playing up during the night and didn,t sleep well. Thankfully was a work from home day so hubby took the brunt of my mood. Everywhere I turn are pics of royal baby can just scream.

 

[Juniperjules]

Think I'm out again for another month. Got AF like cramping & lower back ache, & just had little bit of spotting I think ...TMI, was hard to tell bcos have bright purple knickers on! : )

Am at work and trying to remind myself that I've got an earlier appt with FS now, only 2 weeks away. Am putting all my 'eggs' into her basket & praying that she can change things for the better.

 

[Briss]

Juniper, do not want to raise your hopes but AF like cramping & lower back ache and spotting can also be a sign of BFP, there is still hope. I will keep my fingers crossed for you.

 

[Juniperjules]

Thanks for the optimism Briss, but AF has arrived with full force! Haven't told OH yet, I got home from work at 1030pm & he was in a lovely mood & had borrowed DVDs for us to watch.. I just Didn't feel like bursting the happy bubble.

Which actually I think is a good sign for me- previously I would've felt like I had to tell him bcos then I could almost punish myself & him by kind of saying 'yep well, I'm 38 what do u expect??? we shouldn't have waited so bloody long should we!'.. And I would've enjoyed being negative in a twisted sort of way! How weird is that??!?

But tonite I felt like I wanted to keep some optimism alive inside & not let AF completely ruin our nite.

Hmmm maybe at 38 I'm finally growing up ; )

 

[Briss]

Juniper, very sorry about AF. well done on being so "grown up", every time I tell DH about AF he looks at me so surprised like a child who was just told Santa Claus does not exist

 

[smurfy]

Thanks for the optimism Briss, but AF has arrived with full force! Haven't told OH yet, I got home from work at 1030pm & he was in a lovely mood & had borrowed DVDs for us to watch.. I just Didn't feel like bursting the happy bubble.

Which actually I think is a good sign for me- previously I would've felt like I had to tell him bcos then I could almost punish myself & him by kind of saying 'yep well, I'm 38 what do u expect??? we shouldn't have waited so bloody long should we!'.. And I would've enjoyed being negative in a twisted sort of way! How weird is that??!?

But tonite I felt like I wanted to keep some optimism alive inside & not let AF completely ruin our nite.

Hmmm maybe at 38 I'm finally growing up ; )

I was laughing whilst i was read this, its so true you sort of want to punish them too, ie we DTD enough, age etc. The last couple of times I have waited for a few days and just dropped it in subtley. Have a lovely night it is important that it doesnt take over your life. I do feel more relaxed for having this approach more so over the last few months.

We are off to see fertility specialist in 10 days, this time as it is a follow up from over 4 months ago it is likely we will go with IVF, but lets wait and see.

 

[Zeri]

Sorry to hear about Af Juniper. I actually just checked in to see how your tww was going. I understand what your an about being twistedly negative. When you're angry and bitter it has to come out somewhere. :-/

Is everyone on this forum doing assisted/FS intervention then? I think it's just a matter of time before you girls get your bfps...

My best friend is ttc. She got pregnant by accident the last time, and just announced she had a positive test last week but it didn't stick. I'm sure it's just a matter if time before she's preg go again. :-/

Anyway sorry about not catching up with everyone. Typing on the iPod. Will check back soon later

 

[Juniperjules]

Thanks Zeri ; )

We haven't done anything 'assisted' yet. Have just had the usual tests done by an FS at the women's hospital here. Then referred to an IVF clinic to explore options.

I'm nervous about it. Very nervous. But I think at this stage I'd sell an organ if I thought I'd end up pregnant!!! I don't know of any problems with my body just yet. My antral follicle count was 8 which after some reading I wasn't happy with... But the original FS & the radiologist told me if I had more than 12 I'd have PCOS.. So 8 is fine (according to them that is). But ill be very interested to see what the private FS will say. My AMH is 42.8p/mol so lord knows wot that means.

The $$$$ worries me.. But if it means I could be pregnant by the end of the year ill happily do whatever the new FS suggests. She has a fantastic rep & I've been chatting online to girls who are seeing her ATM. I'm over doing this alone & trying to stay calm (bcos if I freak out then my OH will start to have doubts too & I don't want him to lose faith that we CAN have a baby eventually).

Smurfy, trying to stay chilled in the face of adversity is working for me right now. Last year I had some personal issues & ended up very very anxious, stressed out, had a few panic attacks & ended up needing to see a psychologist. I felt like I was losing my mind. And I will not let that happen again. So I'm pushing bad thoughts out of my mind as quickly as they enter! If ur appt is in 10 days we'll have our FS appts in the same week I'd say!

 

[smurfy]

Thanks Zeri ; )

We haven't done anything 'assisted' yet. Have just had the usual tests done by an FS at the women's hospital here. Then referred to an IVF clinic to explore options.

I'm nervous about it. Very nervous. But I think at this stage I'd sell an organ if I thought I'd end up pregnant!!! I don't know of any problems with my body just yet. My antral follicle count was 8 which after some reading I wasn't happy with... But the original FS & the radiologist told me if I had more than 12 I'd have PCOS.. So 8 is fine (according to them that is). But ill be very interested to see what the private FS will say. My AMH is 42.8p/mol so lord knows wot that means.

The $$$$ worries me.. But if it means I could be pregnant by the end of the year ill happily do whatever the new FS suggests. She has a fantastic rep & I've been chatting online to girls who are seeing her ATM. I'm over doing this alone & trying to stay calm (bcos if I freak out then my OH will start to have doubts too & I don't want him to lose faith that we CAN have a baby eventually).

Smurfy, trying to stay chilled in the face of adversity is working for me right now. Last year I had some personal issues & ended up very very anxious, stressed out, had a few panic attacks & ended up needing to see a psychologist. I felt like I was losing my mind. And I will not let that happen again. So I'm pushing bad thoughts out of my mind as quickly as they enter! If ur appt is in 10 days we'll have our FS appts in the same week I'd say!

Poor you, you are staying positive especially after what you have been through. Good luck, lets touch base again when we come back from FS appts take care

 

[viccat]

Hi all, sorry I've not been around for a while - needed a little TTC break to be honest.

Juniper - sorry to hear AF got you, but I am super impressed at your ability to stay positive with your OH. If I don't feel like ranting and raving, I go the other way and cannot bear to talk about how crap I am feeling. Neither is nice

nobump - I am hearing you about the royal baby. Can we have a news embargo?

AFM - AF is due, and I am spotting so don't think it will be much longer. When AF arrives, I get to phone the hospital and book in my HSG test. I'm not looking forward to it, but I want to cross off all the possibilities.

Me and OH have had additional blood/sperm tests taken in the last week or so, and our next FS appointment to discuss options is in another 4 weeks. At the moment, my preference is for natural cycle IVF, but not sure the NHS will offer it. Crazily, they will fund more expensive full IVF, but the recommendations are not to offer the less invasive treatments like IUI and natural cycle IVF.

Not sure I can go through full IVF, and am dealing with the emotions around whether by doing so, I am making a decision which means I will not have a baby.....

 

[Briss]

Viccat I am going for natural cycle IVF but privately, the NHS was quite clear that they will not fund it. they refused to fund conventional IVF (with meds) cos of my high FSH and said the natural IVF could work for me but they do not have this option under the NHS. I am going to CREATE cos they are doing around 70% of all natural IVfs in the UK

 

[viccat]

Hi Briss, I will be really interested to hear how you get on at CREATE. I wish there was something like that near us, but we are at the other end of the country

 

[Briss]

Reporting back on my initial consultation and scan at CREATE.

my antral follicle count was 9 (7 on the left ovary and 2 on the right). Bad news I now got cysts on both ovaries, the scary part is that I need to do CA 125 blood test to check for ovarian cancer!!! also, it might be tricky to do egg retrieval as they will have to maneuver the needle to try not to puncture the cyst. the good news I have excellent blood flow to my uterus! also excellent lining. based on the scan I was told we might get away with mild stimulation i.e. modified natural cycle IVF and can hope to get 2 eggs. at the end she said that based on what she knows about us she would give us 25% chance of getting a BFP after one cycle and 10-16% chance of taking a baby home, not very optimistic.

I am very concerned about the meds (below), I understand that doses will be different than in conventional IVF and no injections (just tablets), also probably shorter period of time when I need to take them but still from what I read they do not go well with cysts. we need to do blood tests before we can start so not sure if we manage to make it for the next cycle, most likely the cycle after. I want to take some time to think it over as lots of new info to take in.

Mild stimulation IVF cost: up to ￡4,200

IVF: 2550
sedation: 230
hfea fee: 75
icsi 870
blood test: 75-150
menopur 120-150
cetrotide 105-140
ovitrelle 15-30

 

[viccat]

Thanks so much for sharing that info Briss. I have to be honest, that those odds actually sounded pretty good to me! And great news about your uterus - gives any egg a much better chance of being sticky.

I'm curious - did you find out how do they decide when to do egg retrieval with mild cycle?

 

[Briss]

with mild stimulation they are basically in control when you ovulate, they give stimulation for more than one follicle to continue growing and at the same time put your ovulation oh hold for a few days and then trigger your ovulation and time egg collection. it's very similar to traditional medicated IVF but instead of getting injections you take tablets and doses are much lower (i hope so)

 

[Zeri]

Briss - glad to hear you got some good news. Sorry to hear about the cysts, though. Why do they have to check you for ovarian cancer? Is it because of the cysts??

viccat - hope your next FS appt will give you some clarity with which to make your decision. IVF does sound very rigorous - I can understand why you want to go a more natural route.

AFM - Bah... 8 dpo and feeling absolutely non-pregnant. Took an hpt on a whim at 6 dpo and of course it was negative. Then took an opk yesterday (7dpo) just for the fun of seeing a second line....(the test line was there but very light). Going to test again tomorrow and feel pretty sure it's going to be bfn.

 

[Briss]

Zeri, good luck with testing, faint second line on OPK is a good sign.

The left cyst did not look good so I guess they need to know for sure it's not cancer before stimulating the ovary. I was actually hoping for a completely natural cycle with no med of any kind so I am not sure if I am going to agree to modifies IVF. I am also concerned that the meds even in lower doses can affect my cysts and ovaries

 

[nobump]

Zeri - Agree, second line on a OPK is good, fingers crossed!!

Briss, hope you all checks out ok with your cysts. There are so many unkowns with IVF.

Viccat, think we all need an escape from this.

AFM, have my ultra sound but they had problems seeing things due to air in my bowel, suffer from IBS.... not been back to docs yet as had another appointment at the hospital on the 8th was going to go back after that. But just got a letter through to go to hospital this Friday for a pelvic x-ray. Letter says to let them know if I think I may be pregnant... Sadly, think it would be a miricle if I was but managed to get some fun in today, CD13, think I will ovulate CD13/14 so might be in with a chance, but Friday would be to soon to test. IBS been playing up this week, X-ray for blood in morning urine, hoping it comes up with an answer. The nurse doing the ultra sound said she couldn't see any large stones, and x-ray would be able to pick anything smaller up.

 

[viccat]

Briss - when do you go for the CA 125 test? I am sure it will be nothing, but realised i didn't really respond to you worrying about it in my last message. My understanding is that cysts are not uncommon (i've had one before that resolved on its own) so will be keeping my fingers crossed.

Let us know when you will do the test and get the results.