Donna and Cb1, i am truly so sorry, i know how you both feel its happened to me twice too, nothing can prepare you for going for that scan to be told the heartbeat is no longer there, its devastating and heartbreaking. I last went through this ordeal in december, both times i had erpc. Sending you all my love and warmest hugs, we buried our last baby in our garden under our pear tree and got a little statue of a baby angel with wings to put there and planted some flowers, it will always be with us and i can think of it daily and sometimes just go sit there in the sunshine and talk. It helped me so much, but i agree, it was far worse the second time. So sorry, i mean that xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx