Pap smear results high risk of cervical cancer :(

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Got my Pap smear results, and there's enough "abnormal cells" present to put me at high threat of cervical cancer.:cry: I have to get a colposcopy/biopsy in 4 weeks. I'm particularly nervous because intercourse had been painful ever since my first full term pregnancy, but I just brushed it off as the result of so much trauma to my lady parts with a 10 pound baby. Now I'm freaking out that it was indication that something is amiss. :cry: anyone have similar experience?

On the bright side, I heard baby's heartbeat on the Doppler today at 11+1:happydance:
 
Sorry to hear about that :( no experience but I'm just wondering will a biopsy of your cervical cells cause any issues in pregnancy down the line like incompetent cervix etc? Did they say
 
But definitely don't get a biopsy or colposcopy during pregnancy! They must be crazy! I lost my baby due to one in 2009. They are not usually recommended.
And even if you don't miscarry from the trauma, laila is right, it can cause your cervix to become incompetent. Besides it is pointless because you can not get treated in pregnancy.. like what are they gonna do? Radiation?

On top of that, testing in pregnancy is fairly stupid because it skews results and can produce false positives. :(

Did they give your your exact results? Are you already CIN 3 or is it still PAP 3-5? PAP 3-5 is nothing to worry about and even CIN is managable. I had CIN 3 when I was pregnant with my son. While Pap is just abnormal cells, CIN is a certain amount of cancerous cells. Starting at CIN3 is where they recommend treatment. I got a LEEP (laser surgery) and my cells were still there. It was pointless scarring of my cervix that will always cause me to not produce adequate cervical mucuous, which ca be bad for conceiving, puts me at high risk for a shortened cervix with every pregnancy and natural birth will be a challenge because the scar tissue won't stretch well.

Pregnancy is rejuvenating to the body. It literally regenerates all your cells. There are many studies on this. At birth you shed cells from your cervix too so you have 2 things that will help your body heal during this time.

After I delivered I changed my diet, lived as natural as possible, took Pectasol C for cellular health and after a year cancer and HPV were gone. I would really give it some time. This is not an illness that spreads or advances fast. We all have cancerous cells in the body but in case of HPV they can become to numerous because they increase when your body is fighting an infection. Some scientists even believe it is a sort of protection mechanism.

After years of research I don't buy into standard cancer knowledge anymore. Most people die of the treatments and not the actual cancer. Radiation and Chemo have many, many critics, yet are continued because they make a ton of money.

Many natural health experts have tried to demonstrate there are natural ways to heal from cancer and they don't get credit because their methods are just free health advice. I know quite a few people, including myself that followed it and healed.

If you want an example of how corrupt the system is go to "Cosmetics Safety Database" by the environmental working group. Type in shampoos and lotions you use and you will find 99% of them will contain carcinogens or otherwise cancer promoting properties (also neuro toxins, endocrine disruptors which is hormonal balance, reproductive toxins) The FDA likes to speak of "safe amounts" that even if certain amounts were safe completely go out the window if you use more than one product. I actually quit working for a cosmetic chemicals company when I learned what is put into these products.
I would highly recommend tossing out all of it and strictly double checking ingredients of organic brands.

Food is anothed issue. It is not possible to avoid everything problematic but by eating organic, fresh foods, no ready to eat microwave dinners etc., you lower your exposure. Your body can detox well to some degree, but not an overload.

My advice would be live healthy and give your body some time. Get checked again about 3 and 6 months after pregnancy (best when your hormones have normalized) And then decide. You may have healed or at least improved in which case you may heal eventually.
You can tell your doctors you want to wait until after pregnancy. If they don't listen, find better doctors. I was taken care off by high risk specialists that did not even worry about my cancer.

I was super determined to get better thinking of my baby and wanting to be there for him all my life. Mind you I had a ton of other chronic diseases too. Your mind really matters in this. If you believe you will heal, you have much better chances. I healed from everything. Diseases that one can not even heal from supposedly.

The painful intercourse could very well just have been due to lingering pregnancy hormones. I had it until I took herbs to regulate my hormones and the pain just went away.
 
Thank you for your caring response! No actual cancer cells detected yet, only high level of abnormal ones? The doc said they couldn't do the whole colposcopy while pregnant but planned on using the microscope and taking a biopsy sample.
 
Don't do it. Not during pregnancy it can cause you to miscarry and/or incompetent shortening or funneling of cervix later on which leads to preterm labor. You basically have hpv and that can be treated after pregnancy not during... Be very careful.
 
I have that. It showed up in my pap the OB did when I found out I was pregnant. He told me we'd have to wait until after I delivered , and then do another pap to see where I was then, but nothing could be done during pregnancy. When I had my recheck things looked fine. Good luck.
 
I agree with the ladies. Remember that you are in charge of your body. Doctors can be pushy and insensitive, but its not your job to please them. Do what feels right for you and baby.
 
I had this just after birth with my son, I had a punch biopsy done a few weeks later and was given the all clear. They said some changes in pregnancy and just after can cause abnormal cells, and thus false positives.
 
Thank you for your caring response! No actual cancer cells detected yet, only high level of abnormal ones? The doc said they couldn't do the whole colposcopy while pregnant but planned on using the microscope and taking a biopsy sample.

Then idk why your doctors push for a biopsy? I have had a high amount of abnormal cells from 2004-2009. 2009 I had the biopsy in pregnancy, went home with cramps and immediately started to miscarry. And then it turned out it wasn't cancer yet.

2010 cancerous cells were first detected. You see it took 6 years to advance to a point where you usually get treatment...Before that I was told to keep an eye on it and that the body often clears everything itself. I have witnessed it with friends but for me it didn't.

Like I said, if you have cancer they can't effectively treat you because it will harm your baby.
Then there is a chance the result is wrong thanks to pregnancy hormones. I got a PAP in pregnancy, which I did not even want but the doctor just started scraping away. I have not asked for the results because I know they are not accurate right now and irrelevant.

I am sorry your doctors scared you so much. Very insensitive. Maybe you can see someone else and ask if you can postpone it. Sometimes I think doctors think too technical and strictly follow procedures but imho you definitely have time to delay the testing.
 
I've had this too not long ago, I have severe changes in my cells, I havnt been back for the biopsy despite all tge letters they keep sending me. And I will definitely not be doing at bow being pregnant . Try not to worry. I know it's hard :( xx
 
I've had abnormal cells before too. Never got the colposcopy because I didn't like my doctor and was not comfortable with her. A year and a half later I was pregnant and they did another PAP and it had all cleared up. I would not have that done while pregnant. And I think you have really good odds that it just clears up on its own. I know how scary being told that is and I personally felt the doctors made it out to be much worse than it is.
 
My sis had this discovered when she was pregnant. They pushed for a colposcopy too...she ended up miscarrying because of it, don't do it.
 
Sorry to hear your result, it's really terrifying seeing it on paper. I've had high grade abnormal cells for almost 5 years now, I've had 4 colposcopy and 2 biopsies. They are a little uncomfortable but not too bad. My grade has lowered slightly since my last appointment but still not normal. I let my mw know what was happening and she put it in my notes. I didn't have anything done while pregnant, I was advised against it. Was seen 5 moths after the birth of my daughter, I was quite worried as I was bleeding after sex which isn't normal for me, it turned out to be nothing. I know it's hard but try not to over analyse it, these cells have the opportunity to possibly progress in the future but they can Also "right themselves" xxx
 

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