Seatbelts vs isofix bases

[sweetthang24]

I realise ive left this a bit late but i'm looking at prams now.

I found a travel system i really like; Hauck Condor 4 in 1 but there is no compatiable isofix base for it.

I've asked a couple of mums i know that have had 2 + children and they now swear by the isofix base.

Do i go with the pram i really like (and can afford) and use seatbelts or compromise/settle and get another pram that is compatible?

what are your opinions on it?

xx

 

[Phinners]

Personally I dont think there is a need to use IsoFix over the seatbelt. I see it as a marketing thing to play on the fears and guilt of parents. As long as the seatbelt and baby seat is fitted safely and correctly every time then I feel this is good enough.

 

[milkmachine]

imo car seats should stay in the car and not be pushed around on prams anyway, babies should be flat not squished into bucket seats- on the iso fix thing im fairly certain its about connivance rather than safety.

 

[spencerbear]

I used a seatbelt last time with my car seat and never had any problems. So i would go with what you like and can afford

 

[pichi]

with an isofix base it means the carseat is more secure because it's attached directly to the car itself as opposed to just being held in with a seatbelt. if there is any slack in the seatbelt then obviously there is more room for accident.

we went for an ISOfix base purely because of the safety aspect. that is just my personal opinion though

 

[milkmachine]

with an isofix base it means the carseat is more secure because it's attached directly to the car itself as opposed to just being held in with a seatbelt. if there is any slack in the seatbelt then obviously there is more room for accident.

we went for an ISOfix base purely because of the safety aspect. that is just my personal opinion though

provided your car isnt falling apart though its is very unlikely there wouldnt be the correct tension in the seat belt.

 

[milkmachine]

Personally I dont think there is a need to use IsoFix over the seatbelt. I see it as a marketing thing to play on the fears and guilt of parents. As long as the seatbelt and baby seat is fitted safely and correctly every time then I feel this is good enough.

think you hit the nail on the head there

 

[anna matronic]

I don't have Isofix (car doesn't have it) but I do have the easybase which serves the same purpose. It is certainly a matter of opinion because for the main it is mostly for convienience. I have it for that reason. I have a carrycot that baby will go in, but for quick trips to a friends, or Tesco or whatever then staying in the car seat is fine! I have also heard of cars being broken in to to steal the damn carseats too, so wouldn't leave the seat in the car either.

I personally cannot do with belting it in and undoing it everytime I want to go out, I have a 3 door car and am on my own, so to make my life easier was important to be honest!!

I think they are safer too in the sense that you minimalise the risk of strapping the seat in wrong one time. Once the base is in it is done and the seat just clicks in!

This is my opinion anyway, I don't necessarily think it should be a basis to not get a buggie that you love though just cos it doesn't have a base.

 

[Phinners]

imo car seats should stay in the car and not be pushed around on prams anyway, babies should be flat not squished into bucket seats- on the iso fix thing im fairly certain its about connivance rather than safety.

Ah yes that's a good point. My SIL is a nurse and she was the one that said do not be pushing baby around in the car seat for hours on end because of their backs, and that there's a lot of research papers written on this. She knows I like peer reviewed evidence not anedotal chatter.

 

[pichi]

yeah - i'm just saying that if there was slack in the belt it could cause a problem. some carseat belts aren't long enough either which my friend found out with her m&p carseat and her Ford Fiesta.

like i said, personal choice of mine i like knowing that the base is there and it doesn't need adjusted every time i may need to take the car seat out of the car

 

[milkmachine]

imo car seats should stay in the car and not be pushed around on prams anyway, babies should be flat not squished into bucket seats- on the iso fix thing im fairly certain its about connivance rather than safety.

Ah yes that's a good point. My SIL is a nurse and she was the one that said do not be pushing baby around in the car seat for hours on end because of their backs, and that there's a lot of research papers written on this. She knows I like peer reviewed evidence not anedotal chatter.

there was a big thing in the news about babies suffercating also due to being squished up for two long... when i have a few mins ill try dig up some stuff about it

 

[shambaby]

we have gone for isofix. it's considered safer, but only because there is less room for error in fitting it - often when fitting a car seat with a seatbelt people will have the seat at the wrong angle, or won't fit the belt around it properly. if you know how to do it properly, and make sure it is right every time a seatbelt fitted seat should be just as safe. however, an isofix one is MUCH easier as you just have to click it into place and it tells you if it's not quite right. our car seat does happen to fit to the chassis of the pram, but i don't expect i'll use that feature - young babies should lie flat, which is why we also got the carrycot.

 

[Phinners]

Personally I dont think there is a need to use IsoFix over the seatbelt. I see it as a marketing thing to play on the fears and guilt of parents. As long as the seatbelt and baby seat is fitted safely and correctly every time then I feel this is good enough.

think you hit the nail on the head there

Thank you. A lot of stuff is marekting drivel |I believe - hell, I work in sales/marketing, I know how it works lolol

I think these days parents are guilt tripped an awful lot over saftey, and there fewar being if they don't subscribed to it all then they will be branded as neglectful bad parents by the media and social groups etc and the fear is then built up over 'what if's' what if I hurt my baby etc.

If Isofix is so superior over seatbelts then why are adults and older children using them?? Am I putting myself and my bump and my older son in danger becuase I wear a seatbelt when I drive? Am I chuff.

 

[milkmachine]

heres a blog thing about it, there is actual papers on this but i dont have time to find them have 20month old running around https://www.drmomma.org/2010/02/aap-car-seats-lower-oxygen-levels-of.html

 

[pichi]

i have the adaptors for putting the carseat onto my pram base but this will only be used for the likes of a tesco shop. i am never more than an hour at best in tesco and having the adaptors means using the carseat and not having to bring the carry cot with me. i will not however have baby in her carseat any longer than 2h at the max because i know how harmful it is to them.

but yeah, thats a different topic altogether. lol

 

[milkmachine]

Personally I dont think there is a need to use IsoFix over the seatbelt. I see it as a marketing thing to play on the fears and guilt of parents. As long as the seatbelt and baby seat is fitted safely and correctly every time then I feel this is good enough.

think you hit the nail on the head there

Thank you. A lot of stuff is marekting drivel |I believe - hell, I work in sales/marketing, I know how it works lolol

I think these days parents are guilt tripped an awful lot over saftey, and there fewar being if they don't subscribed to it all then they will be branded as neglectful bad parents by the media and social groups etc and the fear is then built up over 'what if's' what if I hurt my baby etc.

If Isofix is so superior over seatbelts then why are adults and older children using them?? Am I putting myself and my bump and my older son in danger becuase I wear a seatbelt when I drive? Am I chuff.

yup, totally cashing in on paranoia. its AMAZING the amount of STUFF 'they' try to convince you that you NEED when you have a baby, i think that the isofix base falls into this list of STUFF....like new born baby sleep position devices wtfs that about?!

 

[buttonnose82]

We have isofix because we feel it is safest, there is no room for error when fitting the base & seat (unlike with seatbelt) and it means the seat is directly connected to the framework of the car which again is about safety

If it was just a money making spin then why are they making it law that from 2012 ALL new cars have to have isofix fitted

 

[pichi]

adults don't need isofix because our car seats that we sit in and are strapped into are already anchored to the car chassis. there is no room for error with our carseats unless it's a rubbish car and your seat can wobble freely which a baby carseat can do as it's only attached via a seatbelt

 

[Phinners]

Personally I dont think there is a need to use IsoFix over the seatbelt. I see it as a marketing thing to play on the fears and guilt of parents. As long as the seatbelt and baby seat is fitted safely and correctly every time then I feel this is good enough.

think you hit the nail on the head there

Thank you. A lot of stuff is marekting drivel |I believe - hell, I work in sales/marketing, I know how it works lolol

I think these days parents are guilt tripped an awful lot over saftey, and there fewar being if they don't subscribed to it all then they will be branded as neglectful bad parents by the media and social groups etc and the fear is then built up over 'what if's' what if I hurt my baby etc.

If Isofix is so superior over seatbelts then why are adults and older children using them?? Am I putting myself and my bump and my older son in danger becuase I wear a seatbelt when I drive? Am I chuff.

yup, totally cashing in on paranoia. its AMAZING the amount of STUFF 'they' try to convince you that you NEED when you have a baby, i think that the isofix base falls into this list of STUFF....like new born baby sleep position devices wtfs that about?!

haha yeah and not forgetting the divider thing so that you can put babys= the top of the cot and he cant wriggle down. fuck off, just move him to the bottom of the cot so his feet are near the bottom. honest to god!!

 

[anna matronic]

The UK guidelines are that a baby is not in a carseat for longer than 2 hours without a break, I rarely go in my car for that long although the drive from mine to my mums can be up to 90 minutes.

As far as I know all new cars in the UK have had Isofix installed for the last 3 years. I believe it is safer too as the the base is securely fixed to the car and there is less room for human error, even just that one time.