Soy Isoflavones?
I made this topic based on the topic called "https://www.babyandbump.com/trying-to-conceive/271211-soy-isoflavones-natures-clomid.html".
I would like to know the success rate of Soy Isoflavones with actual numbers. It seems to work for some but not for others. It would be good to know how many it worked for compared to how many it did not work for or how many it made things worse for or how many it did nothing for.
It seems Soy Isoflavones are supposed to make better eggs and help with ovulation and perhaps make the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle longer and fix problems with irregular periods?
Soy Isoflavones seem to be best for those who have irregular periods or those who have problems ovulating. It is usually recommended for those who need to take Clomid to help with ovulation.
And it seems that Soy Isoflavones are not recommended for those who have normal periods.
It seems that people take Soy Isoflavones in twice the amount of Clomid. For example, if someone needs 50 mg of Clomid, it is best that they take 100 mg of Soy Isoflavones.
It seems Soy Isoflavones are to be taken for five days on the days that Clomid is usually taken, such as on cycle days 3-7 or 5-9.
How did it work for those who tried it? Is there any other information about Soy Isoflavones that would be helpful? Did I say something wrong in this post?
I also did a topic similar to this one called "https://www.babyandbump.com/trying-to-conceive/387005-b-vitamins-poll.html" to compare B-Vitamins to Soy Isoflavones.
List of those taking Soy Isoflavones:
AG75 (I'm on CD8 and took my last dose of 160mgs of Soy Iso last night. Have a box of OPKs ready and am gonna wait until CD10 to start testing.)
AmorT (im on CD14 I also took mines 3-7)
bumski (days 5-9, 200mg of soy, from tesco)
Charisse28 (160mgs CD5-9; TTC #2 for almost 6 months, third month on Soy)
chelseaharvey (CD3-7; had been trying for 27 months; had a scan on CD22 because fertility doctor to see if anything was going on..was being refered next month for private treatment... told i had not ovulated nor showed any signs of it happening anytime soon; 10 days later i got my
- total shock)
CLH_X3 (5-9, 100mg)
Danniii (5 days, 3 (Holland and Barrett) tablets per day, add up to 69mg; planning on taking 5 H&B tablets, which I think are 23mg each, and therefore adds up to about 115mg per day)
Daisys_mummy (I thought seeing as I'm taking the soy, I thought I'd better come a join this thread Lol)
Feelcrazy (so I got pure soy usoflavones and am happy I found them. So I took 100mg yesterday and 120mg today. I also have heard it's good to increase grandually. I'm on cd 8. Unfortunatley I started taking them too late hoping it still works, I usually ovulate cd 23)
Folly (cycle days 5-9 but I'm just going with a low dose. I took 40mg on CD5, 80mg yesterday, then I think maybe 80mg again today and two days of 120mg. No side effects yet, If they don't help this month I'll try an earlier and higher dose next month!)
GillAwaiting
Gurlsan (I took soy this cycle for the first time days 3-7, and I ovulated 2 days earlier. I have cycles of 31 days and I usually ovulate between day 18-23. I'm currently on cycle day 25- 9dpo, crossing my fingers that this cycle is finally it.) UPDATE: (This was the first cycle that I have used Soy Isoflavones, and guess what??? I got a second line on the pregnancy test. ! at 11dpo.; it's been 3yrs that we have been TTC our 1st with no luck, I have never had a positive preggo test before.; I took Soy Isoflavones on cycle days 3-7, and ovulated 2 days earlier than usual with stronger cramps (cycle day 16).; Took Soy Isoflavones, used Preseed (10th cycle on preseed), Used softcups (4th cycle), took my One a day multivitamin, Flaxseed oil, and lost 10lbs this month.)
Hoping1986 (CD2-CD6), (100mg)
inkdchick (taking soy isoflavones for the first time; from CD 2 to 6 160mg each day; tesco soy iso)
kake1980 (my first month using soy - took 100mg CD 3-7, using Natures Aid Soy Isoflavones. Have been TTcCfor about a year now)
Killeen_TTC (I started taking Soy 204mg CD2 and am going to take it through CD6. I am 25 and we have been TTC for over a year now with no luck. My cycles are anywhere from 28-32days and LP has been getting shorter every month (11days last cycle), I do ovulate on my own around CD15 but I don't think my egg quality is good so hopefully Soy will help.)
krissie328 (I am on CD 7 and I just completed my last dose of soy)
LifeIsPeachy (160mgs CD2-4; and 200mgs CD5-6)
LisaBananaman (days 3-7: 100mg of soy)
loolindley
Megg33k (I got both of my with Soy Isoflavones... but I lost both. We think it was due to low progesterone... but no real proof as they were both blighted ovum found way after growth had stopped. Nevertheless, they did work for me, and I liked them much more than Clomid! As my siggy suggests, I've since moved on though.)
mindyb85 (taking 100mg on cd3-7)
minkysouth1 (92mg CD 4 & 5, 120mg CD 6 & 7, 160mg CD 8. Also taking B50 complex and EPO)
misssancha (CD 3-7, 100 mg)
Nise (100mg of Natures Aid Soya Isoflavones, CD's 5-9)
pinkylisa28 1st month on soy (sept-1-2010), had been TTC for 13months (days 3-7 of a 35 day cycle)
pink mum (starting it on cd3, about 100mg (menosoy) first 3days n will increase the dose to 150)
poppy666 (nearly 41; i got mine from Tesco's 40mg each tab so thinking 3 tabs a night; cd2-6, think i ov'd 3 days early yesterday so we will see; UPDATE: i took 160mg first 3 days then upped it to 200mg cd2-6.. did get some spotting over first 11 days, plus i ov'd a little later than i thought i would)
RhiannonBaby after 1st month on Soy Isoflavones after 11 months TTC (CD2-50mg; CD3-100mg; CD4-150mg; CD5-150mg; CD6-200mg; friend suggested that "gradually increasing the dosage over the 5 days seems to be helpful.")
roopachoo Soy worked for me on first cycle using it!; I took the Tesco brand- 40mg to so easier to measure out dose.; Thank God I found B&B and found out about soy - tried it on my first proper cycle after implanon removal otherwise who knows how long it would've taken.; I knew that I ovulated on my own so I didn't take the full whack dosage, CD3- 80mg, CD4- 80mg, CD5- 100mg, CD6- 120mg, CD7-160mg; I planned to take only 140mg on CD7 but it was Friday night and I'd had a few glasses of wine and thought what the hey! Glad I did now for that extra little boost. Increasing the dosage works better I think (thanks RhiannonBaby) as it mimics gradually increasing oestrogen levels in a normal cycle.
shellie31 (days 2-6, started off at 150mg the 1st 2 days then upped it to 200mg for the last 3. I haven't had any spots that usually happens just before the flys in . I have however had a very slight aching all over my belly & low backache,nothing i can't handle though lol . I just wondered if any of you were extra horny? i am seriously so horny lol & all i want to do is jump on DH... I wonder if this could be down to the soy? (hope so cos i don't usually have a very high sex drive & that would be great))
southerngal2 (I'm taking 100mg on CD 3-7; I got my yesterday! First month using Soy!)
Stash777 (CD3-7;The soy I'm using is by Nature's Way; 140 mg red clover and 100 mg non-GMO soy isoflavones. I'm taking them along side EPO (1300mg) and vitex (400 mg 3x day). I have extremely irregular cycles, 3 were regular but avg 41 days. According to my dr, I most likely am not ovulating, so I will update if I O this month (I'll be charting, using opks, and checking CM). Hope this helps)
starz (I did some searching on Soy Isoflavone, purchased my first bottle from the us spring valley 40mg; This is my first month. I took it days 3-7
5X40mg =200mg the 7th day I upped the dose to 220mg, Im on CD 10 will let you know how I go!)
Tanya8 (I have very irregular cycles. Last November I got off BC and didn't have AF until June. The next cycle was 58 days, followed by one of 59 days. I took soy this time around (CD5-9 120mg). Soy moved my O up by 8 days. I Oed on CD39 which is not great, but way better than CD47. Next month, I'll up my dosage in hopes of improving my cycle even more.)
Toots216 got first 2 days ago at 8 DPO; TTC for 5 months (80 mg soy, CD 2 - 6; I haven't had any issues with anovulation in the past, but the soy helped bump my O up 4 days earlier)
truly_blessed (CD3-CD6, in the evening and 120 mg Tescos brand)
wifey29 (80mg CD2 to CD6)
xshell79 (cd3 to cd7, 115mg; i got my today 12dpo thanks to soy, bvits and metformin ..hope its a sticky one!)
xMissxZoiex
bfp: 23/10/10, first Cycle on it, i gradually increased it CD2 i had just 40mg CD3 80mg CD4 120mg CD5 160mg CD6 160mg, It worked for me! x; Im on my first month using it .. took my last ones today!)
I made this topic based on the topic called "https://www.babyandbump.com/trying-to-conceive/271211-soy-isoflavones-natures-clomid.html".
I would like to know the success rate of Soy Isoflavones with actual numbers. It seems to work for some but not for others. It would be good to know how many it worked for compared to how many it did not work for or how many it made things worse for or how many it did nothing for.
It seems Soy Isoflavones are supposed to make better eggs and help with ovulation and perhaps make the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle longer and fix problems with irregular periods?
Soy Isoflavones seem to be best for those who have irregular periods or those who have problems ovulating. It is usually recommended for those who need to take Clomid to help with ovulation.
And it seems that Soy Isoflavones are not recommended for those who have normal periods.
It seems that people take Soy Isoflavones in twice the amount of Clomid. For example, if someone needs 50 mg of Clomid, it is best that they take 100 mg of Soy Isoflavones.
It seems Soy Isoflavones are to be taken for five days on the days that Clomid is usually taken, such as on cycle days 3-7 or 5-9.
How did it work for those who tried it? Is there any other information about Soy Isoflavones that would be helpful? Did I say something wrong in this post?
I also did a topic similar to this one called "https://www.babyandbump.com/trying-to-conceive/387005-b-vitamins-poll.html" to compare B-Vitamins to Soy Isoflavones.
List of those taking Soy Isoflavones:
AG75 (I'm on CD8 and took my last dose of 160mgs of Soy Iso last night. Have a box of OPKs ready and am gonna wait until CD10 to start testing.)
AmorT (im on CD14 I also took mines 3-7)
bumski (days 5-9, 200mg of soy, from tesco)
Charisse28 (160mgs CD5-9; TTC #2 for almost 6 months, third month on Soy)
chelseaharvey (CD3-7; had been trying for 27 months; had a scan on CD22 because fertility doctor to see if anything was going on..was being refered next month for private treatment... told i had not ovulated nor showed any signs of it happening anytime soon; 10 days later i got my
- total shock)CLH_X3 (5-9, 100mg)
Danniii (5 days, 3 (Holland and Barrett) tablets per day, add up to 69mg; planning on taking 5 H&B tablets, which I think are 23mg each, and therefore adds up to about 115mg per day)
Daisys_mummy (I thought seeing as I'm taking the soy, I thought I'd better come a join this thread Lol)
Feelcrazy (so I got pure soy usoflavones and am happy I found them. So I took 100mg yesterday and 120mg today. I also have heard it's good to increase grandually. I'm on cd 8. Unfortunatley I started taking them too late hoping it still works, I usually ovulate cd 23)
Folly (cycle days 5-9 but I'm just going with a low dose. I took 40mg on CD5, 80mg yesterday, then I think maybe 80mg again today and two days of 120mg. No side effects yet, If they don't help this month I'll try an earlier and higher dose next month!)
GillAwaiting
Gurlsan (I took soy this cycle for the first time days 3-7, and I ovulated 2 days earlier. I have cycles of 31 days and I usually ovulate between day 18-23. I'm currently on cycle day 25- 9dpo, crossing my fingers that this cycle is finally it.) UPDATE: (This was the first cycle that I have used Soy Isoflavones, and guess what??? I got a second line on the pregnancy test.
! at 11dpo.; it's been 3yrs that we have been TTC our 1st with no luck, I have never had a positive preggo test before.; I took Soy Isoflavones on cycle days 3-7, and ovulated 2 days earlier than usual with stronger cramps (cycle day 16).; Took Soy Isoflavones, used Preseed (10th cycle on preseed), Used softcups (4th cycle), took my One a day multivitamin, Flaxseed oil, and lost 10lbs this month.)Hoping1986 (CD2-CD6), (100mg)
inkdchick (taking soy isoflavones for the first time; from CD 2 to 6 160mg each day; tesco soy iso)
kake1980 (my first month using soy - took 100mg CD 3-7, using Natures Aid Soy Isoflavones. Have been TTcCfor about a year now)
Killeen_TTC (I started taking Soy 204mg CD2 and am going to take it through CD6. I am 25 and we have been TTC for over a year now with no luck. My cycles are anywhere from 28-32days and LP has been getting shorter every month (11days last cycle), I do ovulate on my own around CD15 but I don't think my egg quality is good so hopefully Soy will help.)
krissie328 (I am on CD 7 and I just completed my last dose of soy)
LifeIsPeachy (160mgs CD2-4; and 200mgs CD5-6)
LisaBananaman (days 3-7: 100mg of soy)
loolindley
Megg33k (I got both of my
with Soy Isoflavones... but I lost both. We think it was due to low progesterone... but no real proof as they were both blighted ovum found way after growth had stopped. Nevertheless, they did work for me, and I liked them much more than Clomid! As my siggy suggests, I've since moved on though.)mindyb85 (taking 100mg on cd3-7)
minkysouth1 (92mg CD 4 & 5, 120mg CD 6 & 7, 160mg CD 8. Also taking B50 complex and EPO)
misssancha (CD 3-7, 100 mg)
Nise (100mg of Natures Aid Soya Isoflavones, CD's 5-9)
pinkylisa28
1st month on soy (sept-1-2010), had been TTC for 13months (days 3-7 of a 35 day cycle)pink mum (starting it on cd3, about 100mg (menosoy) first 3days n will increase the dose to 150)
poppy666 (nearly 41; i got mine from Tesco's 40mg each tab so thinking 3 tabs a night; cd2-6, think i ov'd 3 days early yesterday so we will see; UPDATE:
i took 160mg first 3 days then upped it to 200mg cd2-6.. did get some spotting over first 11 days, plus i ov'd a little later than i thought i would) RhiannonBaby
after 1st month on Soy Isoflavones after 11 months TTC (CD2-50mg; CD3-100mg; CD4-150mg; CD5-150mg; CD6-200mg; friend suggested that "gradually increasing the dosage over the 5 days seems to be helpful.")roopachoo Soy worked for me
on first cycle using it!; I took the Tesco brand- 40mg to so easier to measure out dose.; Thank God I found B&B and found out about soy - tried it on my first proper cycle after implanon removal otherwise who knows how long it would've taken.; I knew that I ovulated on my own so I didn't take the full whack dosage, CD3- 80mg, CD4- 80mg, CD5- 100mg, CD6- 120mg, CD7-160mg; I planned to take only 140mg on CD7 but it was Friday night and I'd had a few glasses of wine and thought what the hey! Glad I did now for that extra little boost. Increasing the dosage works better I think (thanks RhiannonBaby) as it mimics gradually increasing oestrogen levels in a normal cycle. shellie31 (days 2-6, started off at 150mg the 1st 2 days then upped it to 200mg for the last 3. I haven't had any spots that usually happens just before the flys in . I have however had a very slight aching all over my belly & low backache,nothing i can't handle though lol . I just wondered if any of you were extra horny? i am seriously so horny lol & all i want to do is jump on DH... I wonder if this could be down to the soy? (hope so cos i don't usually have a very high sex drive & that would be great))
southerngal2 (I'm taking 100mg on CD 3-7; I got my
yesterday! First month using Soy!)Stash777 (CD3-7;The soy I'm using is by Nature's Way; 140 mg red clover and 100 mg non-GMO soy isoflavones. I'm taking them along side EPO (1300mg) and vitex (400 mg 3x day). I have extremely irregular cycles, 3 were regular but avg 41 days. According to my dr, I most likely am not ovulating, so I will update if I O this month (I'll be charting, using opks, and checking CM). Hope this helps)
starz (I did some searching on Soy Isoflavone, purchased my first bottle from the us spring valley 40mg; This is my first month. I took it days 3-7
5X40mg =200mg the 7th day I upped the dose to 220mg, Im on CD 10 will let you know how I go!)
Tanya8 (I have very irregular cycles. Last November I got off BC and didn't have AF until June. The next cycle was 58 days, followed by one of 59 days. I took soy this time around (CD5-9 120mg). Soy moved my O up by 8 days. I Oed on CD39 which is not great, but way better than CD47. Next month, I'll up my dosage in hopes of improving my cycle even more.)
Toots216 got first
2 days ago at 8 DPO; TTC for 5 months (80 mg soy, CD 2 - 6; I haven't had any issues with anovulation in the past, but the soy helped bump my O up 4 days earlier)truly_blessed (CD3-CD6, in the evening and 120 mg Tescos brand)
wifey29 (80mg CD2 to CD6)
xshell79 (cd3 to cd7, 115mg; i got my
today 12dpo thanks to soy, bvits and metformin ..hope its a sticky one!)xMissxZoiex
bfp: 23/10/10, first Cycle on it, i gradually increased it CD2 i had just 40mg CD3 80mg CD4 120mg CD5 160mg CD6 160mg, It worked for me! x; Im on my first month using it .. took my last ones today!)
it seems to be on both sides as well. We'll see what happens now.
