Soya Isoflavones Cycle Buddies! <3

Discussion in 'Trying To Conceive' started by Lost7, Aug 2, 2015.

  1. Lost7

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    Going to keep this rather short and sweet.

    Soya Isoflavones are a natural alternative to Clomid.

    Soya Isoflavones are commonly referred to as SI.

    Soya Isoflavones are not for everyone, in fact if you have a regular cycle you should not try SI.

    If you have been on Clomid (for example 50mg) you should double the dosage for SI (You'd be taking 100mg)

    The maximum dose of Soya Isoflavones you can take per day is 200mg.

    You only take Soya Isoflavones for a maximum of 5 days early into your cycle. This might be days 1-5, 2-6, 3-7 etc. The latest you may start taking Soya Isoflavones is CD5. Taking it longer than 5 days will have negative effects on your Fertility.

    *Always* consult your doctor before taking any new medications.

    When to take SI?

    You take Soy Isoflavones, like Clomid, on either CD 1-5 , 2-6, 3-7 , 4-8 or 5-9.
    If you take soy Isoflavones during the later time bracket, for example CD5-9, you shall strengthen the egg that has already started growing producing a healthier egg. The earlier in your cycle you take It, the higher your chance of releasing multiple eggs but these eggs will not be as mature as the eggs grown from taking Soya later.
    A lot of women will choose the middle cycle (3 -7) allowing time for a strong and healthy egg to develop without erasing the chance of a second egg being developed and released.


    Which days are better?

    1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

    2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

    3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

    4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured alot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

    5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

    Whilst there hasn't been any research regarding dosage and whether to keep the dosage consistent (just like you would Clomid), or to increase the dosage daily on this particular thread, women are having more luck with increasing dosages. This is a rather small study, with only minimal amount of data. Obviously any data collected regarding Soya Isoflavones dosages do not take things like Male Factor Infertility into consideration.

    Soya helps you Ovulate, it stimulates your ovaries. Therefore if you are struggling with Male Factor Infertility the success rates may well be lower.

    Please see your Fertility Specialist and or Doctor for more information.


    This is my first cycle on Soya Isoflavones, I took 200mg on Days 3-7, taking 5 x 40mg tablets each day. I have not been on any fertility drugs such as clomid before.
    I ovulate normally but want good egg quality for a strong ovulation and a strong sticky bean.

    :happydance:




    Congratulations:

    Powell130 :bfp: First SI cycle of 2015, Days 3-7 (120, 120, 160, 160, 200mg)

    Tesh23 :bfp: Second Cycle in a row, Days 2-6 (160, 160, 200, 200, 200mg)

    SouthernBound :bfp: Second Cycle in a row, Days 2-6 (160, 160, 200, 200, 240mg)

    BostonLover89 :bfp: Days 2-6 (50, 100, 100, 100, 100mg)

    Dimmu :bfp: Days 3-7 (100, 150, 150, 200, 200mg)

    Mummy1506 :bfp: Days 3-7 (120mg, 120mg, 120mg, 120mg, 160mg)

    LoraLoo :bfp: Cycle 2 of SI Days 5-9(100, 100, 150, 150, 200mg). :yellow::yellow: Identical Twins (Not SI related)
    [1st Cycle also successful but sadly Miscarried]

    Lost7 :bfp: Natural cycle, Non SI.

    corgankidd :bfp: Days 2-6. (152, 152, 152,190, 190mg)

    Dolphinleigh :bfp: Days 2-6. (120, 120, 120, 160, 160mg)

    lauralynn3boy :bfp: Days 3-7 (80, 80, 120, 160, and 200mg)

    pompeyvix :bfp: Days 3-7 (80, 120, 160, 160, 200mg)

    Planning to take:





    Soya Isoflavones Angels :angel:

    :angel: LoraLoo - S.I Cycle 1, ended in a early Miscarriage.



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  2. southernbound

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    Can I join? :D My LP is very short and my doctor doesn't want to try any kind of medication but said if I wanted she wouldn't mind me trying SI so that's the plan!
     
  3. Lost7

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    Woo hoo! When will you start taking it and on what days? Good luck!
     
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    Well I'm waiting on AF right now to start our first official TTC cycle, and the first cycle I think we're just going to relax and see how the b complex continues to behave (I have short cycles anyways so it's not losing much time) and then assuming I don't get pregnant this time the Sept cycle I'll take them 2-6 and see what that does to my ovulation and go from there! What about you?
     
  5. Lost7

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    Ah brilliant! Good luck.
    This is my 11th cycle trying, had 3 losses this year so far.
    I took soya on days 3-7.
     
  6. southernbound

    southernbound Well-Known Member

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    I'm so sorry for your losses :hugs:

    What CD are you on now?
     
  7. Lost7

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    I think I'm CD9 today, I'd have to check FF but yeah - I'm sure it's CD9. :flower:
     
  8. Lost7

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    I've added more information to the first post, When you're going to take it let me know and I'll put you in the top section. :flower:

    Good luck, I'm waiting to ovulate! A little puzzled at last nights + OPK, but I have been told (I haven't seen any research online to prove this theory just yet) but apparently you shouldn't take any OPK's until 2-3 days have elapsed from the last dosage of SI. :shrug: I think I should discard last nights +, I wouldn't usually ovulate this early. I meant to temp this morning but I've slowly lost the will. :oops:
     
  9. Tesh23

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    Hi Ladies!!

    I have taken SI for the first time this cycle - cd3-7. Been ttc for 15 months, this will be my 16th cycle!

    Would love to join to share our experiences and outcomes :flower:

    So today will be my last day taking SI. I did 120, 120, 160, 200 and 200.

    What dosage have you taken Lost? And is this your first cycle try SI?

    Goodluck ladies!! Hopefully we see two pink lines this month! :happydance:
     
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    Tesh23 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry Lost, just saw that is your first cycle on SI in your original post!
     
  11. Lost7

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    Welcome along! I'll add you in a sec!
    I think days 3-7 are the best days. :) fingers crossed! What CD are you on now?

    I've taken 200mg each day x
     
  12. Tesh23

    Tesh23 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the add! :thumbup:

    I am on cd7 today, so tonight will be my last dose of 200mg. Gotta choke down like 5 giant ugly brown pills again.. yuck :wacko: really hate taking pills, but if it helps, hey!!

    I also feel that cd3-7 could possibly be the best formula :dance: so really have a good feeling about this month. Ordered my opk's today online, hopefully should get them by Thursday which will be cd10 for me which is when I will start testing. Opk's have never really worked for me before but I'm gonna give it a go this cycle. Will also be using Natural progesterone cream an B6 from 3dpo to try and enhance my LP. Had a 9dpo LP last cycle for the first time ever so wanna be prepared this time round!

    Also gonna be using soft cups this cycle. I used them last cycle and they were super compfy and gr8 at keeping everything in if you know what I mean! lol

    When are u due for AF? Are you trying anything other than the soy this cycle? Have read so many good things about it (and some bad), but more good than bad! So hopefully, FX this works for us this cycle!! :bodyb: hehe
     
  13. Powell130

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    3-7 here! And today is 1dpo...ahhhhhh
     
  14. Tesh23

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    Yay!! Another 3-7 :winkwink: Welcome! Haha you are so lucky you are at 1dpo and not still waiting to O!

    When do you think you will test Powell?
     
  15. Lost7

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    Tesha23 - Only a day or so behind me! :happydance: I know that feeling, towards the end you do kind of feel like you're going to choke having to take so many! :lol:
    You're using a lot of what I'm doing. I have a 10-11 day LP and I am also taking Vitamin B6. I will be swapping over to Vitamin B Complex within the next few days, I've heard better things about a complex rather than the B6 on it's own. I also have a progesterone defficiancy and therefore have bought myself some NPC (natural progesterone cream) since the doctor will not prescribe it and it 'has' to be prescribed by the FS, apparently. :evil:
    Am I reading that right that from 3dpo you're taking the B6? I took it the whole cycle and I gained a few extra days last cycle - that could have been the pregnancies doing mind (I had a CP).
    I'm also taking Folic Acid, Co Enzyme Q10, EPO and the things mentioned above. :lol:

    Like you - really hoping it works. :dust:

    Powell130 - Another SI buddy! <3 Woo hoo! I didn't realise you did SI too! Is this your first cycle on it? :dust:
     
  16. Powell130

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    I hated the waiting to O this cycle! I didn't get a positive OPK til midnight CD15-16 where as last cycle I got positive FMU CD14!

    I'll start testing 8/12!
     
  17. Powell130

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    This is my third ever soy cycle. My first was August 2012 and conceived our son that cycle. This go around is my second cycle. Also did 3-7 the last times. Hoping for a BFP this time as O day was hubs birthday yesterday!
     
  18. Lost7

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    Aw happy belated birthday wishes for him! Fingers crossed for us all. Can't believe it delayed your O by a day or so mind.
    I wonder if it's going to mess up my O. I got a positive OPK last night but aparently I should ignore that...
     
  19. Powell130

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    I took em morning vs night last cycle so expected a change. I ovulated CD18 the cycle I got pregnant with our son so hoping later O's are better for me!
     
  20. Lost7

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    Did you take them in the morning or at night when you fell pregnant with your son? :flower: FX for you! I'll be patiently waiting to be testing with my CB duals! I'm going shopping Wednesday to get them!
     

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