The testosterone the Urologist gave my oh could be doing more damage than good!

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  1. scerena

    scerena Cautiously Expecting #1

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    Well oh saw the fs the other day who told him that the testosterone may be doing his sperm count mre bad than good... The urologist originally put him on testosterone as he said his low testosterone could mean his low sperm count...
    Now I am so worried! He done his sa yesterday now we are left waiting ad he had to stop taking the testosterone for a week and then do the sa!

    Anyone have any experience with this??? I'm worrying so bad! We have enough problems without this adding to it also!

    I found this article after the fs told me-

    Some of that story is true. But for men also hoping to father children, there may be some vital information missing. Using testosterone supplements can most likely cause a man's sperm count to plummet, often to zero. Getting it back can be costly and take years. Among heavy steroid users, it may never return.
    Even in the medical community, the effects of testosterone on a man's ability to reproduce are often misunderstood. Several top fertility experts say they often see patients whose regular doctors have placed them on testosterone replacement therapy to treat various ailments - often successfully - without explaining that it might also make them infertile.
    When artificial testosterone is introduced into the body, the pituitary gland in the brain senses its presence and shuts off the supply of hormones that stimulate the testicles to make their own testosterone and sperm. The brain cannot differentiate natural testosterone from synthetic, so it shuts down its own sperm-making mechanisms.

    If his sperm count is affected I will be going mad! I am so worried!
     
  2. Hi Scerena, it is going to be ok. Did you talk to the urologist before stopping the testosterone? Did DH have a blood test to show he had low levels? Your urologist is used to seeing fertility issues more than an fp is. Yes, additional testosterone added to a normal amount of testosterone would decrease his producing his own as his body tries to maintain a steady state or amount of testosterone. The amount of steroids a body builder uses cannot be compared to the amount given to your DH. If your dh had a blood test and was shown to not be producing enough on his own, the supplemental testosterone was to bring his levels to normal and allow for normal sperm production.

    Waiting is so hard, I understand. Maybe the first SA was low due to stress. But if it comes back low again, talk to the urologist and share your concerns.
    Best of luck, I hope you get your BFP as soon as possible!

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    scerena Cautiously Expecting #1

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    Thanks Hun he had 3 sa- first was 0.5mil, second was 28mil and the third was 15mil. He had bloods which showed low testosterone :( so the doc sent him to the urologist who gave him the supplement. He's en on that I'd say about 6 months. Any how he went to the docs last week and he said the things about testosterone and then we had a fs appointment too last week and the top consultant said it too- about how it can make sperm worse as your body stops producing it's own :( we didn't mention it to the doc or the fs that's what worrys me.. So he had to stop the testosterone for a week tosee what his body does...
    I guess I have to wait a week or his bloods and sa results it's so scary I hope things are ok
    Thanks for the reply I'm so scared we have enough issues as it is :hugs: x
     
  4. Awww, :hugs: It's so confusing when there are multiple docs telling you different things. FX'd for you & your DH.
     
  5. I just found the article you were quoting. OMG! I did a little more research as to why any doc would then use testosterone as treatment for low sperm count and found this on a male infertility clinic site:

    Testosterone

    This is given to suppress sperm production in the hope that when medication is stopped (usually after 5-6 months), then the sperm production will "rebound " to higher levels than originally (testosterone rebound). This form of treatment is now seldom used as it may further impair fertility and is hazardous. Testosterone is also be used for the treatment of impotence or diminished libido when blood testosterone levels are low. Testosterone is available as an oily injection and is given intramuscularly, usually once a week. Oral preparations are also available now, but these are more expensive and may not be as effective.

    So I guess the hope is that your DH stopped the testosterone and his sperm count will now rebound!

    Good luck with the latest SA...when should you hear back?
     
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    scerena Cautiously Expecting #1

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    Thanks for the info Hun...
    I will find out next week hopefully as oh done it yesterday I will definately keep you updated... I'm scared but let's hope it rebounds then xx
     
  7. FX'd so much for you & DH... :hugs:
     
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    Yes straight testosterone stops sperm production I have seen many women's DH be prescribed testosterone for a low count only to months later have 0 sperm. if you want to increase sperm production tamoxifen and HCG work great but it will take another 3-6 months to see improvement , although I did see one couple on another forum get their BFP after 2 months of tamoxifen and HCG. my husband has taken it too with good results. good luck.
     
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    Omg now I am very scared!
    I will be going mad at the urologist and my fs as he knew he was taking it!
    With pcos, low sperm count I am loosing hope and now possibly zero sperm count omg I actually want to cry! Instead of after a year Seinfeld oh sa improve it sounds like it is going to be worse! X
     
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    I would be flaming mad at the doctors too , here is a link that explains the side effects of testosterone supplementing. https://www.andropausespecialist.com/testosterone-side-effects.php

    https://forums.fertilitycommunity.c...azoospermia-after-testosterone-treatment.html


    The good news is the sperm production can start again. , bodybuilders who use straight testosterone for months to help build muscles often have little to no sperm count after a while so post cycle they use clomid or tamoxifen daily to improve their sperm count. HCG has been found to work well when used along with tamoxifen.

    :hugs:
     
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    Thanks for the info I will be having a read through all of that tomorrow properly xx
     
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    Well oh phoned the doc for results!
    She wasn't very helpful he has to wait until his docs appointment on Monday!
    BUT... She did say they was normal :) but he has a bit of clumping and White cells? Anyone had experience with this? I'm just glad they're normal I was expecting a 0.5mil or something...
    I will tell you the results properly when he gets them printed Monday I hope the results are normal as some of these docs don't have a clue!
    X
     
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    Thanks Hun just hope they got it right on the phone! They wouldn't tell us how many million which isn't much help but normal is enough to know for now :) x
     
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    I forgot to update this thread a while back so I thought that I would. As you know oh ahd to stop taking the testosterone and have another sa after a week. Here are the results he had from that sa-

    Volume- 1.4ml
    Liquefaction- yes
    Viscous- no
    Sperm concentration- 34 million per ml (yay highest yet)

    Percentage motile- 38%
    percentage progressively motile 35%
    Forward progression rating- moderate

    Morphology 93% abnormal (which is better than before)
    antisperm antibodies IgG 0% binding
    Aggregation and agglutination- 20

    (normal ranges: count >15/ml, motility >40%, progressive motility >32%, abnormal forms <96%)

    Comments: normal count with borderline motility. Some White blood cells still present (6M/ml). Lots of debris and some aggregation/ agglutination.


    Well I guess at least the count has gone up! I'm happy with that!

    I was expecting zero sperm so we are happy with that count as his previous numbers were-0.5mil
    28mil
    15mil

    Although there may be other problems its nothing too bad, so fingers crossed! Since then I also had a laparoscopy, hysteroscopy and ovarian drilling- so hoping for a 2012 :bfp: x
     
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    So, even after the testosterone supplement, he still has a good sperm count? (Just trying to make sure I'm reading it right.)

    Hubby was on a 2.5mg Androderm patch for about 45 days until I read about the side effects. I'm worried about his sperm count now.
     
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    Yes his count is normal we was very lucky not high like some mens but not low, i can see his motility has gone down a little but its not really low, hes on loads of vitamins and he has started a couple of extra ones now...

    I know how much youre probably worrying as i was, i would get oh to do another sa- the fs told my oh to do a sa a week after stopping the testosterone to see if his cout would 'bounce' back x
     
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    Yes his count is normal we was very lucky not high like some mens but not low, i can see his motility has gone down a little but its not really low, hes on loads of vitamins and he has started a couple of extra ones now...

    I know how much youre probably worrying as i was, i would get oh to do another sa- the fs told my oh to do a sa a week after stopping the testosterone to see if his cout would 'bounce' back x
     

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