War on Terror?

Discussion in 'General Chatter' started by Cheyanne, Jul 18, 2007.

  1. Cheyanne

    Cheyanne Well-Known Member

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    Okay, whose tired of this war? Don't get me wrong, I was all for going over there and getting the job done. I knew it would take a while and I knew it would be difficult. I did NOT know that the direction would shift to fighting Iraq's civil war and that is exactly what we're doing. I listened to a retired Army specialist the other day and this is what he had to say. 911 was a diversion, meant to draw our troops out in mass. Once there, our enemies would start to cross our OPEN borders. It's not the illegal Mexicans we're worried about. It's the people who want to kill us. We don't have enough money or man power to protect our borders. We civilians aren't allowed to take control of them, even if they're crossing on our private property. Politics aside, I have a very bad feeling that something catastrophic is brewing among us. I'd like to hear some thoughts from across the pond.
     
  2. beanie

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    I was against the war but I now believe that we have a duty to stay there and sort out what we started. I also think that the history behind it all is too complicated.
     
  3. sparkles

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    I was against the war in Iraq and with every soldier that gets killed fighting someone elses war I get more angry and despondant,

    They didnt go into this for the good of the Iraqi people, if they were worried about humanitriam issues then they would be in Zimbabwae wouldnt they.

    But they arent.
     
  4. 2nd.Time.Daddy

    2nd.Time.Daddy Well-Known Member

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    It needed to be done , but they should have come out alot sooner. now they need to stay to TRY and sort things out.

    i was thinking of joining the marines at one point but theres no way i would want to now as i dont see dying in the deserts of iraq or afghan worth while. soldiers are dying out there practically on a daily basis now and its all for nothing.
     
  5. Imi

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    Im keeping my mouth shut as this topic winds me the hell up

    xxx
     
  6. 2nd.Time.Daddy

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    now thats something i would have fully supported , they never would have done it though...to much oil , diamonds and gold in africa and they wouldnt want to ruin that....BUT....they prob would go in if africa decided not to ship any of it resources out
     
  7. Cheyanne

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    Within hours of the massive psunami, our leaders and even ex-leaders began creating a relief package worth millions, but when our own citizens were dying in the streets of New Orleans, it took days just to get water! It's shite like this that ticks me off. We can pay war reperations to other countries who refuse to respect U.N. guidelines and almost never face the "sanctions", but our own soldiers aren't getting much needed supplies/equipment and less than impressive health care after being wounded. I could go on for days, but I better stop here before I explode. LOL
     
  8. Steph

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    I'm sorry if i offend anyone as my mother hates my view, but i think the whole bit of land should be obliterated. Napalm....kaboom. Any innocent civilians wishing to follow our way of life can be removed from the country, then just blow the arse out the place. Problem solved.

    Sincerely

    Hitler.

    I get that for saying that but i don't think its as bad as hitelr, there's no other way to end this without doing away with these people.
     
  9. 2nd.Time.Daddy

    2nd.Time.Daddy Well-Known Member

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    Thats the whole point and problem , you will NEVER get rid of them

    nuke them all tomorrow and their will be another 10 million worldwide to take their place. kill that 10 million and ther will be mroe the next day etc etc etc
     
  10. Steph

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    I vote get Stormin Norman back in
     
  11. beanie

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    Steph am I understanding you right. Are you saying that we should obliterate another country, and anyone who doesn't want to adopt a western way of life should be killed too?
     
  12. Steph

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    You can twist it and say it that way.

    I could just say go in and nuke the place, but i recognise that there are plenty of innocent civilians there so that is unfair to them, so they could be removed temporarily until the terror is obliterated, and then they could go about the cleanup operation they're still trying to do over there with their new government and whatnot, but they're doing the cleanup while the terror is still at large.

    So yes, my view when said the way you put it across makes me sound like a terrorist, but no that's not the case
     
  13. 2nd.Time.Daddy

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    you cant clean up a nuclear explosion :rofl: all them civiliations you evacuated would become the next problem as they would all want to kill the west and so would half of the world. you CANT win
     
  14. Steph

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    Nae wonder big Tony Blair had heart problems
     
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    2nd.Time.Daddy Well-Known Member

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    like any muslim will say "its not all muslims , its only the ones the chose to read it wrong"
     
  16. beanie

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    I wasn't twisting your words. I was asking if I had understood you right, if I was twisting your words then I wouldn't have asked you. It was the way you put those that don't want to live our way of life or something. Our way of living isn't always right for other cultures
     
  17. Steph

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    I don't for a second believe it is all Muslims,I just have very strong feelings towards the radical muslims that go about trying to blow themselves up and leave a path of destruction.

    Its not nice having to go to your work seeing a big gaping hole in the building cos someones failed at an attempt to try and kill you all.
     
  18. Cheyanne

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    I hear ya Steph. After 9/11, the cry babies of this country said we needed to stop showing pictures of ground zero, as it may upset people, make innocent Muslims feel as if we're blaming them. I say, "Show the pictures every damn night, day after day, year after year!" I just can't imagine how a "peaceful" people can have so much hate in their hearts. I always try to find the best in people, respect their differences and so on, but they(radicals) are a whole new breed of monsters.
     
  19. beanie

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    The radical islamists aren't real muslims in the true sense of the religion. They are people who want to hurt as many as they can but hide behind a religion to make their point. Same as with the IRA, and Timothy McVeigh, they hid behind the Christian faith but are not Christians - if they were they would not have done what they did.
     
  20. Cheyanne

    Cheyanne Well-Known Member

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    I definitely agree with that Beanie. You'd think if these terrorists are so bold as to kill innocent people, they'd have the balls to admit what they are. It's so frustrating because there just doesn't seem to be any answers that we all can live with....we may all die while waiting for one.
     

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