thanx deb i'm going to do that, i get 5 of them for 2.50 from home and bargain so hopfully about 16 will do i already have 6!it annoys me what we have to do just do have the gift of life!!!u spend so long trying not to then you want to and for some its easy for some not so easy, then its the hole keeping a sticky bean ect, life is a bitch!!xx