2-3yo Preemies and Pre-School in 2012

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Responding to threads on here and statuses on FB, it's become apparent that there is a little "quorum" of B&B preemies who will be starting Pre-School (Nursery, call it what you will!) in 2012. I thought it might be nice for us to have our own little thread to discuss the process, issues, our progress etc.

Hands up all those who wondered whether they'd ever see the day :happydance:
 
I'll kick off with Andrew, who'll turn three just 2 weeks before the September term starts. We had considered asking to delaying his schooling for a year starting from Pre-School point, but now feel that being with other children would be good for his development. So we're going to start his education at 3 with his peer-group but perhaps consider delaying at 5 if necessary.

Note. From Bliss website. "Defer" is to start school late but with same peer-group. "Delay" is to start school one year after peer-group, child is older than rest of class.

As a result of his development meeting last July, Andrew's s.332 letter was issued. This notified the LEA that he will potentially have special needs during education, in his case they were described as "medical and complex needs". We presume the "medical" is his hearing; the "complex" is his development. The Pre-Schools Advisor suggested at that meeting that we get Andrew's name on the list for the Pre-Schools in our area. I think the referral to the Edu Psychologist was also meant to come off the back of the s.332 letter but there is a huge waiting list for those appointments round here.

The same Pre-Schools Advisor visited this week to discuss schooling with us, I specifically requested the meeting because he is now on the list for 4 local Pre-Schools and I wanted to know what support he would get. She told us that, given his development (or rather, lack of it) over the last six months, she was recommending that he instead attend a Special Needs Pre-School. TBH this actually came as a relief to us, because of his hearing issues we know that he has difficulties (not to mention feeding problems, communication problems etc) so it is reassuring to think that he would be going somewhere that has a higher staff ratio with experience and patience when handling these issues. There is nothing to stop Andrew transferring from SN pre & primary education over to mainstream later on, but I understand it is much harder to switch into SN if he starts mainstream.

You'd think being a city we'd have variety, but there's surprisingly little provision, only a couple of SN Pre-Schools. One is about 5 miles away and, although I haven't checked their Ofsted, I know from friends that it has a good reputation. More handily though, that school have started providing OutReach Nursery services in local SureStart Centres for children who don't need all the physical disability equipment held in the school - so if we can get a place, Andrew could be going somewhere only a mile away in a familiar setting.

Anybody know where you can get school uniform in size 12-18m? :haha:
 
We're another lot. I don't know how the nursery will be about her not being potty trained and tbh I think it's a disaster waiting to happen :cry: I don't think she will cope :nope:
It's either that or she goes to the play-group next door, which would be more one-on-one I hear.

My friends LO is in the same nursery and from everything I've heard from her, she's no way ready for it.

We have big appointments in march and I will really need to have a good word with the community care team
 
Potty-training was an obvious concern of ours, but we were told that this would be the least of our worries - the scare stories are about primary school classes, not nursery age (3y) which normally have TA to do that kind of thing.

It was the description of a typical nursery class that concerned us, routines that included "group storytime" during which children supposedly all sit together and listen for a while. Huh? Andrew won't stay put for more than a minute :D Forget group activities, he's still at the point of doing what he wants when he wants (and we encourage such independence!)

Look on the appointments in March as your opportunity to ask questions and get what you want for Alex - remember, you're her best advocate.
 
Exactly that marleysgirl! One story I was til was that her little boy was playing with sand and water and because this was two activities rather than just the one they were doing (playing with sand and not water) he got time out. Mum went mad, she's a nursery nurse herself ;)

Time out? Alex doesn't even "get" bed time so how would she even begin to understand time out!!!??

It all seems way too advanced. She can only "draw" for a minute and she's off.:wacko:
 
:rofl: Andrew decides his own bedtime. He knows that 6:30pm is "bedroom time" but takes himself to his bed (i.e. stops playing with toys) anywhere between then and 8:30pm. He only shouts for our attention if he hurts himself!!
 
Brooke will be 3 on jan 30th and started preschool last September. she was born early due to severe pre-e and severe IUGR. she is also wearing 12-18m and we couldn't find uniform to fit her! her preschool has been massivley understanding though, and a few other children wear what they want to.

the preschool Brooke goes to never, ever do time out-and certainly don't discourage mixing things like sand+water! they have free reign between indoor and outdoor area and are free to move around as they want. they do have group time for 15mins at the start of the day but they are encouraged to talk about themselves and are certainly not forced to sit. you might be surprised how well they sit-I certainly was with Brooke!

brooke had a febrile convulsion in late November and went into respiratory arrest-we were so lucky not to loose her and subsequently I was a nervous wreck getting her back into 'school'. however the school could not have been more helpful and have made a care plan to deal with anything that might arise. Brooke's physical development, speech, toilet training and listening skills have developed an amazing amount since starting and I know 100% we made the right decision. good luck to all your LOs. it feels like such a milestone doesn't it :cloud9:
 
Although holly isn't starting pre school this year due to her only turning 2 she has been in nursery since April and the stuff she will do in nursery is different to what she would do at home.

In nursery she eats great most of the time, will sit for story time, draw by herself and at free play time she will happily play with herself. At home eating is hit & miss mainly not eating! When she is drawing she makes you sit with her and draw animals on the page rather than her doing it and when playing with things she pulls you by the hand to play with her and if you don't she throws a strop.

Kids are smart and definitely know how to play mum & dad!
 
I echo all of what 25weeker has said, due to me having PND and to help his development Matthew has been in nursery one half day a week since he was 8 months and it has done wonders. He follows their structure and sits well for stories etc.

He should be due to start nursery in May but I have not heard anything back yet (must remember to chase that up s:dohh:)

I'm hoping in the meantime to get 'wrap around' extra nursery time that we pay for to help as Daniel (who is 6 weeks old and was 10 weeks early) still has a lot of checks etc and Matthew can be a handful as he neve stops and has no bum to sit on!

Good idea for a thread Marleysgirl shall follow with interest :thumbup: xx
 
Archie will start school nursery in August. We have no concerns about him making this move. He's been at nursery since he was 11 months old and loves it. I registered Archie at his school nursery when he was 11 months old so we could get a space as it's a fee paying school. When we discussed his prematurity at that time they decided to put hm in the year before pre school. However, we were invited to the school late last year and they have since changed their mind inviting him to join the pre school year. They have said that he may be held back a year due to his birthday being in Feb and the fact he is a boy, which I won't mind at all.

I am so very proud of my wee boy and feel blessed with how Archie has turned out. I am so looking forward to taking him to school in August. It will be one of the proudest moments in my life. :happydance::dohh:
 
Findlay will be starting school in August. Due to his physical and learning disabilities, severely delayed development and complex medical issues he will be starting at a special needs school so all being well (as we sadly don't know what his future will be) he will be at the same school from 3-18.

I am going to miss him so so much when he starts but it will be brilliant for him and once he settles in he'll love it and after all we can't keep them at home with us forever :haha:

I'm off to look at the nearest SN school and a couple of others in the next few weeks but apparently the only way I can choose for him to go to a school other than the nearest one is if I can prove that the nearest SN school is not adequate for his needs and another SN school is and I'll have to get into appeals etc. It will apparently make no difference if the school further away is a better school in general or anything :( Unfortunately the next nearest SN schools are nearly an hour away based on non rush hour traffic so could be quite a trek if he ends up there!
 
When Findlay gets old enough, do they provide transport to the schools, Lottie? I haven't really looked into it here, and it won't be an issue during pre-school as the SureStart centre is quite local; but it's something we would need to consider for the future if Andrew goes to the SN schools anywhere in Manchester.

I haven't gone for an official look round anywhere yet, our Pre-Schools Advisor was taking the requests to a meeting last Thursday so I'm waiting for her to report back on whether it all went as planned (i.e. Andrew got put on the lists). Not that there's much to look round, he already goes to playgroup sessions at the SureStart; and I've already visited the actual SN school once, I was very impressed then.

I think OH (who is a stay-at-home Dad) will find it most odd when Andrew starts pre-school, he won't know what to do with himself! (I'm sure I can find some DIY around the house ...)
 
Abby has been at nursery since she was 15 months (a year corrected) and despite some problems getting her in, she has done fantastically well. Just like Holly, Abby does stuff there she never does here (especially when it comes to eating vegetables!) And she crawls at home but never at nursery. Our nursery are fully aware of her needs and have been absolutely fantastic. We are in the process of getting her funded place there. The LEA will meet with us to do a statement of needs - but the nursery have already started multi agency meetings.

We have a situation where her nursery is in a different region to her primary school. They will have to do the same multi agency thing and at one point they will all come together and we estimate there will be 17 healthcare and education professionals around the table discussing what she needs!! We are also looking at getting a funded place at the nursery attached to her school, just for one session, to familiarise her with the building and the staff. It is over subscribed so whether she gets it or not, we don't know, but given she has a perfectly good nursery already, which we have no intention of moving her from, we're not too fussed. Because she is registered disabled, she is entitled to a funded nursery place before she is three but it would have had to be in Falkirk and they aren't too good so we decided not to do that.

Marley, I understand Abby will be entitled to a taxi to take her to school. I think that is a national thing. It's only 5 minutes away so we wont be using it but Lottie, I would think Findlay would be entitled too. My auntie is actually one of the chaperones in the area! Which schools are you looking at for F?

It is such an exciting time. I'm thinking back to when we all first met here (and some of us in person) when our babies were those fragile scraps of skin in the NNICU. And here we are about to send them into the big wide world. I'm so proud of each and every one of them for the amazing progress they have made. :hugs:
 
Yes Findlay will get taken to school in a taxi with an escort. It concerns me slightly as I have been told that escorts aren't first aid trained at all as part of their job so if F has a seizure in the taxi they won't know what to do :-/ Anna Ritchie is the 'automatic' school for him Gayle. Also going to look at Westfield in Fraserburgh and St Andrews in Inverurie and see which of the 3 I feel meets his needs best and if it's not AR then I'll have to start fighting appeals!
 
Yes Findlay will get taken to school in a taxi with an escort. It concerns me slightly as I have been told that escorts aren't first aid trained at all as part of their job so if F has a seizure in the taxi they won't know what to do :-/ Anna Ritchie is the 'automatic' school for him Gayle. Also going to look at Westfield in Fraserburgh and St Andrews in Inverurie and see which of the 3 I feel meets his needs best and if it's not AR then I'll have to start fighting appeals!
if F needs a first aid trained escort, that's what you will get. I'm sure they will have training.
 
I know of other children who have medical issues and their escorts aren't first aid trained at all which is where my concern is.
 

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