Did you know that Lube and saliva kill sperm

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Hey ladys I don't know if you were all aware of this I never had a clue, maybe this is where i have been going wrong. am def going to get pre seed now:thumbup:


How Do Lubricants Damage Sperm

The reason for sperm damage from most products can be seen when data on product pH and osmolarity are compared as in the table 1 below.

The optimum pH value for sperm migration and survival in the cervical mucus is between 7.1 and 8.5 (according to the World Health Organization Manual 4th edition, 2000). Sperm are very sensitive to low (acidic) pH and, to a lesser extent, elevated (alkaline) pH. Below pH levels of 6.9, sperm die at a rate that increases with lowering pH.

Sperm are also sensitive to both high and low osmolarities (ion concentration in solution) because these can cause them to either shrink or swell beyond their "critical volume limits". A physiologic osmolarity between 260-360 mOsm/kg (that of semen) is best for sperm function.

Usually ingredients like glycerin or propylene glycol (in most lubricants), are what result in these high osmolarities. If any glycols or mineral oils are in the lubricant you are using, you can pretty much assume the formula will be damaging to sperm.

Water also kills sperm on contact because it has no salt solution. Some people will tell you to use a little warm water--- don’t’!

Likewise, saliva has digestive enzymes in it that stop sperm from swimming on contact—not so good if you want them to reach the egg!

Even mineral oil which some doctors recommend, has been shown to limit the ability of sperm to penetrate eggs in laboratory studies (likely due to the high osmolarity as shown in the Table).


Table 1: pH and Osmolarities for Popular Vaginal Lubricants

Product
pH Osmolarity (mOsm/kg)
Too Low Physiologic for sperm Too High Too Low Physiologic for sperm Too High
KY Jelly 4.52 2601
Sylk 4.50 1092
Replens 2.79 2610
Astroglide 3.45 5848
Preseed 7.30 324
Egg White 8.95 238
Saliva 151
Tap Water 8.01 98
Mineral Oil 10.50 1735
Baby Oil 7.16 >1000


Other lubricants can create a barrier that interferes with sperm swimming out of the semen.
 
I'm getting pre-seed this month as well. Can't hurt to try new things at this point! Let me know if you have success with it. My best friend did after 4 months of trying earlier this year.
 
Aww awesome Im going to get mine after work so I can use it when I next ov which is on the 14th:)

:dust::dust::dust:

Baby dust to us all!!!!
 
I've been using pre-seed for about 2 months now. Unfortunately nothing yet, but hopefully soon!
 
Just butting in here, but if you're going to spend money on the fertility lubes i'd highly recommend Conceive Plus. I had pre seed and zestica for 6 months with no luck, with conceive plus i got pregnant straight away. I know amother lady has just got pregnant on her first cycle of using it too. Read up about it, it's much better :happydance: best of luck ladies
 
i knew lube can kill spermies but I didnt know Saliva could!!
 
Just butting in here, but if you're going to spend money on the fertility lubes i'd highly recommend Conceive Plus. I had pre seed and zestica for 6 months with no luck, with conceive plus i got pregnant straight away. I know amother lady has just got pregnant on her first cycle of using it too. Read up about it, it's much better :happydance: best of luck ladies

Premo thank you Im in nz so I don't know if we have it over here but will def look into it as anything to help concieve will be great :winkwink:
 
I would only use preseed if you cannot produce enough cervical mucus.
Preseed can also kill sperm, BUT the amount of sperm it kills is worth it if you do not have the CM to help the sperm to the egg in the first place.
 
I showed that to my hubby a few weeks ago, and he got upset. lol
 
Yeah I only found this info out today and will have to go home and tell the man:)
 
I would only use preseed if you cannot produce enough cervical mucus.
Preseed can also kill sperm, BUT the amount of sperm it kills is worth it if you do not have the CM to help the sperm to the egg in the first place.

I don't have that much no, but will see how it goes at ov this time and if still no joy will try it then:)
 

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