FOB rights - if he doesnt make contact

[sambucababy]

Hi ladies

Im thinking long long term down the line but as it stands at present my daughters FOB is named on her birth cert giving him parental rights.

Does anyone knows what would or could happen if he simply went awol and we had no way of making any contact - as it stands at the min I believe I need his permission for things such as abroad holidays etc but although he has seen her for an hour in 4 weeks, we've not heard from him since, his family moved a while ago and I dont have their contact details and Im not entirely sure where he is right now either, just something thats been going through my mind as I think long term he will simply just disapear!

 

[SophiasMummy]

You dont need his permission to travel abroad on holiday but if you wanted to move out the country he can stop you, I think its rediculous that just because there name is on a piece of paper they get parental rights, I think people should have to act like a parent to have parental rights xx

 

[sambucababy]

You dont need his permission to travel abroad on holiday but if you wanted to move out the country he can stop you, I think its rediculous that just because there name is on a piece of paper they get parental rights, I think people should have to act like a parent to have parental rights xx

Thanks hun, i thought it seemed a bit excessive for a holiday my head is all over the place at the moment, I dont think he wants the rights but if I asked him to surrender them (if its legal) he would refuse just to be awkward, xx

 

[xoxsarahxox]

I'm pretty sure you only need his permission if you plan on leaving the country for more than a month. You do however need his passport details to get a passport for you little one. As for just disappearing I suppose that's a tough one. If he chooses to not tell you where he s going then there's not really a lot you can do about it. I wouldn't worry to much though, if he packed up and went I honestly don't think it would cause you to much trouble in the future. You could always pop and see a solicitor or citizens advice and ask them what rights he has and where you stand should he just vanish xx

 

[Laura2919]

This might help you out. https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/ParentsRights/DG_4002954

 

[Snowball]

My ex went awol for a while after he ran off and I actually asked him to relinquish his PR to me... he refused . I totally don't understand how when someone stops making major decisions in a childs life and moves out, why they still keep their 50% PR . I honestly think in certain situations it should be taken off of them. My 1 month old doesn't have a father named on his birth certificate.

 

[xSophieBx]

I'm pretty sure you only need his permission if you plan on leaving the country for more than a month. You do however need his passport details to get a passport for you little one. As for just disappearing I suppose that's a tough one. If he chooses to not tell you where he s going then there's not really a lot you can do about it. I wouldn't worry to much though, if he packed up and went I honestly don't think it would cause you to much trouble in the future. You could always pop and see a solicitor or citizens advice and ask them what rights he has and where you stand should he just vanish xx

You dont need his passport number.. I got LO's passport with just my details and taken her abroad for a week without even telling him.. & his on birth cert. I don't get this whole pr thing...

 

[Happy]

I travelled to the states a few weeks ago and I was advised to carry a note from my ex husband stating he gave permission for LO to be taken out of the country for a holiday. Apparently US immigration can be a nightmare so I went prepared, luckily they didnt ask any questions.

However when I go abroad again I will get a signed letter from him just in case.

 

[miss_amy]

I've never had any trouble travelling with my children and I have travelled extensively. I don't think I had their fathers details for their passports either because at the time he wasn't particularly co-operative.

I know the rules say you can't take the child out of the country for more than 30 days at a time without the other parents permission. Reason I know this is because I'm currently in a long court case because my ex has abducted my child abroad. I've not seen her for a year now.

America can be funny at immigration but if you have information with you like the tickets for your holiday showing how long you plan to stay and a return flight in place they are fine. I think if you just turned up with a one way ticket and no hotel booked they could start asking.

 

[xSophieBx]

I've never had any trouble travelling with my children and I have travelled extensively. I don't think I had their fathers details for their passports either because at the time he wasn't particularly co-operative.

I know the rules say you can't take the child out of the country for more than 30 days at a time without the other parents permission. Reason I know this is because I'm currently in a long court case because my ex has abducted my child abroad. I've not seen her for a year now.

America can be funny at immigration but if you have information with you like the tickets for your holiday showing how long you plan to stay and a return flight in place they are fine. I think if you just turned up with a one way ticket and no hotel booked they could start asking.

How did he get her passport to abduct her abroad!? You've worried me now.

 

[magrace]

Ive had to deal with traveling with my little one as well with me and her dad have been split since she was born. Now hes not the best to get a hold of or even keep track of. This past christmas we were travelling to the US I had to get her a passport and he had to sign because we both had guardianship. Since then I have gone to court and have been granted full custody, full guardianship. He has no access to our child unless i permit it and it has to be supervised by someone of my choice. He has no "parenting" rights whats so ever... So now if I need anything signed for that its just me hes still on the birth certificate just has no rights to our daughter.

 

[TTCinBC]

I guess it's much different in Canada. I did not need to have the FOB's signature on her passport, but I needed his info since he is on her birth certificate. Also, I was told to have a letter from him stating I can take her out of the country on a trip at all. I can move around Canada with her without his interference as I have sole custody/guardianship, but outside of Canada, I need his permission. It has been almost 2 years since he has seen or spoken to her(she isn't yet 4) and I've been told that it's considered abandonment after 2 years( here in Canada anyways) and I can apply to have his rights revoked. I sure hope so!!

 

[littlelinnies]

I've never had any trouble travelling with my children and I have travelled extensively. I don't think I had their fathers details for their passports either because at the time he wasn't particularly co-operative.

I know the rules say you can't take the child out of the country for more than 30 days at a time without the other parents permission. Reason I know this is because I'm currently in a long court case because my ex has abducted my child abroad. I've not seen her for a year now.

America can be funny at immigration but if you have information with you like the tickets for your holiday showing how long you plan to stay and a return flight in place they are fine. I think if you just turned up with a one way ticket and no hotel booked they could start asking.

omg this is so scary!!!!!! and in another thread a girl on this forum ( cant remember her name) said I and others like me where wrong for not putting the fathers name on the birth cerficate when they dont deserve it, and she said i doubt any of the woman off this forums fob would take their child. this is the reason I didnt put my ex on my little boys birth cerftcate to protect him. i'm so sorry this happened to you. xx and its so wrong that a piece of paper gives rights some people dont deserve..

 

[mamashakesit]

Ive had to deal with traveling with my little one as well with me and her dad have been split since she was born. Now hes not the best to get a hold of or even keep track of. This past christmas we were travelling to the US I had to get her a passport and he had to sign because we both had guardianship. Since then I have gone to court and have been granted full custody, full guardianship. He has no access to our child unless i permit it and it has to be supervised by someone of my choice. He has no "parenting" rights whats so ever... So now if I need anything signed for that its just me hes still on the birth certificate just has no right to our daughter.

That is exactly what I need with my ex! I don't know how different the US and Canada laws are, but since I used his last name and put him on the birth certificate, I've heard he can keep me from even leaving the country for a vacation...he has to give his permission! He has never been around and has contributed a grand total of $730 to his daughter (approx 30 hours of his time, total). There is no reason he should have any say, so I'm hoping if I get full custody and parental rights, that will be recognized for traveling or anything else that requires his permission regarding my daughter.

 

[TTCinBC]

I have sole custody and sole guardianship, and we went to Mexico this past January for my brother's wedding, and even though her father isn't involved, I had to get a letter from him saying she could leave with me(stating the time frame as well) and notarized too. I never end up being asked for it. But was told I needed to have it just in case. I did not end up needing his signature for her passport. It was the passport office that made that decision.

I've been told that because it's been 2 years since he has seen/spoken to her, that I can file for abandonment on his part and have him removed from her birth certificate.

Don't know if the states is different, but I'm in Canada and that's what I had to do.