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I posted the other day that I was stopping but I can't. I miss it soooo much when I try to stop. I'm just going to have to keep doing both.. 
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There are worse things you could get addicted too!! I think it's great you're carrying on. I'm planning on breastfeeding but will probably do a bit of both, mainly because I hate the idea of expressing but I still want my OH to be able to have the chance to feed her.
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The closeness you get from it is amazing isn't it?! Nothing wrong with doing both while you've still got milk there - as she gets older and better at sucking you'll find the feeds get a lot shorter too so it won't take up so much of your time x
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If you want to breast feed I would really recommend you don't give into the bottle. I really wish I didn't! She gets so fru strated feeding from me now because the bottle is easier for them.
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Really? Maybe I won't then. I do have a breast pump which makes me cringe whenever I think about it but I suppose I'll just grin and bear it!
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I've tried. After 5-10 mins she just won't stay latched on. She will latch on, she just won't stay there. She gets so upset and frustrated. I've even tried giving her the bottle first then topping her up on me. Nope, she was having none of it!
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If you can stand to read the novel, this is why you should really wait a month or two before pumping:
https://www.babyandbump.com/pregnancy-third-trimester/33810-pumping-destined-fail.html
Toria, if its working for you, just keep it up. Your milk may or may not go away... you enjoy it, she enjoys it... and you are getting lots of practice for your exclusive breastfed FUTURE babies
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If you can stand to read the novel, this is why you should really wait a month or two before pumping:
https://www.babyandbump.com/pregnancy-third-trimester/33810-pumping-destined-fail.html
Toria, if its working for you, just keep it up. Your milk may or may not go away... you enjoy it, she enjoys it... and you are getting lots of practice for your exclusive breastfed FUTURE babies
Atleast if I do have another one I know what to do. I'm so gutted they let me give her a bottle without explaining everything to me.
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toriaa, here's some info I've found for you:
Usually if a mother wants to breastfeed, it's recommended that she wait to introduce bottles until the baby is about 3 to 4 weeks old.
If you offer your baby a bottle before he's gotten used to breastfeeding, you might run into problems. Some babies will refuse to take the breast after exposure to bottles in the early weeks.
If your baby seems to prefer bottles and you still want to breastfeed, here are some tips:
Work with a lactation consultant (LC) who is experienced in transitioning babies to the breast after a period of bottle-feeding. Visit International Lactation Consultant Association to find an LC in your area.
Use a high-quality double breast pump to stimulate your milk supply. Offer breast milk in the bottles, rather than formula. Your baby will be more likely to take to breastfeeding if there's an ample milk supply. Pump every two hours during the day and evening, and once overnight, for a total of at least 9 to 10 pumping sessions per day.
When bottle-feeding, tickle your baby's lips with the bottle nipple until he opens wide. Learning to open wide for all feedings is a key skill needed for effective breastfeeding. Stroke baby's lips with the bottle nipple, working from nose to chin. Wait for him to open wide and accept the bottle into his mouth, rather than pushing the bottle into his mouth.
When bottle-feeding, hold the baby against your bare breast in a position that's similar to the one you use for breastfeeding. This helps baby associate pleasant feelings and feedings with being at the breast.
Attempt breastfeeding when your baby is not very hungry. She may be more cooperative and less frantic when not overly hungry. Watch for early feeding cues, such as rooting or sucking on her hand. Don't wait until she's crying to feed her.
Offer a little from the bottle first, to take the edge off the baby's hunger; then offer the breast. In the beginning, you may need to offer most of the bottle before trying at the breast. As your baby becomes more accepting of breastfeeding, slowly reduce the amount you give from the bottle prior to offering the breast, until you are able to breastfeed without first offering the bottle at all.
When using bottles, encourage baby to drink slowly. Place him in a semi-sitting position so gravity does not cause a fast flow from the bottle.
Consider trying slow-flow bottle nipples. Take the bottle nipple out of the baby's mouth after every half-ounce to ounce to allow for a burp break, and possibly some sucking on a pacifier or the breast. Slower bottle feedings give the baby more control over the amount taken at each feeding and also more closely match the flow of milk from the breast.
Limit the amount of time you spend attempting to get the baby to accept the breast to approximately 10 minutes or less per feeding. Long struggles at each feeding time often lead to frustration and usually have poor results.
Only try to breastfeed if your baby is receptive. Stop the attempt if she seems very uncomfortable or unhappy. Use a low-key, gentle approach.
Be sure you know how to latch your baby effectively. (You'll learn this during your visit to the LC.) When nursing is painful for you, it usually means the baby is not latched effectively. If you have nipple pain or notice a pinching sensation when the baby latches, take him off the breast immediately and re-latch. If the baby is not latched effectively, you will get sore nipples and the baby will not be able to get much milk from the breast.
If you allow the baby to stay on the breast with a poor latch, he will get a slower flow of milk, which may increase his frustration with breastfeeding.
Consider using a nipple shield. A nipple shield is like a bottle nipple made of very thin silicone that you wear over your nipple during feedings. A nipple shield makes the breast feel more like the bottle to your baby and may help him to be more accepting of breastfeeding. Sometimes it helps to fill the tip of the shield with your expressed milk or formula, to help the baby get an immediate flow of milk as soon as he latches. This encourages the baby to begin sucking. Always enlist the help of an LC when using a nipple shield.
The nipple shield is a temporary device. Your LC will teach you how to wean from it once the baby is taking the breast more consistently.
During the transition from bottle to breast, be sure to monitor your baby's diapers to make sure he's getting enough breast milk while breastfeeding.
From age 5 days to 6 weeks, your baby should produce five to six sopping wet diapers and three to four palm-sized bowel movements each day.
Read "Is My Baby Getting Enough Milk?" for tips on judging how much milk he's getting when breastfeeding.
Always keep your baby's primary health-care provider informed of your plan to transition to breastfeeding from bottles. Your pediatrician may want to check the baby's weight more frequently during the transition to breastfeeding. Weight checks will help reassure you that your baby is doing well and getting enough milk while breastfeeding.
Usually if a mother wants to breastfeed, it's recommended that she wait to introduce bottles until the baby is about 3 to 4 weeks old.
If you offer your baby a bottle before he's gotten used to breastfeeding, you might run into problems. Some babies will refuse to take the breast after exposure to bottles in the early weeks.
If your baby seems to prefer bottles and you still want to breastfeed, here are some tips:
Work with a lactation consultant (LC) who is experienced in transitioning babies to the breast after a period of bottle-feeding. Visit International Lactation Consultant Association to find an LC in your area.
Use a high-quality double breast pump to stimulate your milk supply. Offer breast milk in the bottles, rather than formula. Your baby will be more likely to take to breastfeeding if there's an ample milk supply. Pump every two hours during the day and evening, and once overnight, for a total of at least 9 to 10 pumping sessions per day.
When bottle-feeding, tickle your baby's lips with the bottle nipple until he opens wide. Learning to open wide for all feedings is a key skill needed for effective breastfeeding. Stroke baby's lips with the bottle nipple, working from nose to chin. Wait for him to open wide and accept the bottle into his mouth, rather than pushing the bottle into his mouth.
When bottle-feeding, hold the baby against your bare breast in a position that's similar to the one you use for breastfeeding. This helps baby associate pleasant feelings and feedings with being at the breast.
Attempt breastfeeding when your baby is not very hungry. She may be more cooperative and less frantic when not overly hungry. Watch for early feeding cues, such as rooting or sucking on her hand. Don't wait until she's crying to feed her.
Offer a little from the bottle first, to take the edge off the baby's hunger; then offer the breast. In the beginning, you may need to offer most of the bottle before trying at the breast. As your baby becomes more accepting of breastfeeding, slowly reduce the amount you give from the bottle prior to offering the breast, until you are able to breastfeed without first offering the bottle at all.
When using bottles, encourage baby to drink slowly. Place him in a semi-sitting position so gravity does not cause a fast flow from the bottle.
Consider trying slow-flow bottle nipples. Take the bottle nipple out of the baby's mouth after every half-ounce to ounce to allow for a burp break, and possibly some sucking on a pacifier or the breast. Slower bottle feedings give the baby more control over the amount taken at each feeding and also more closely match the flow of milk from the breast.
Limit the amount of time you spend attempting to get the baby to accept the breast to approximately 10 minutes or less per feeding. Long struggles at each feeding time often lead to frustration and usually have poor results.
Only try to breastfeed if your baby is receptive. Stop the attempt if she seems very uncomfortable or unhappy. Use a low-key, gentle approach.
Be sure you know how to latch your baby effectively. (You'll learn this during your visit to the LC.) When nursing is painful for you, it usually means the baby is not latched effectively. If you have nipple pain or notice a pinching sensation when the baby latches, take him off the breast immediately and re-latch. If the baby is not latched effectively, you will get sore nipples and the baby will not be able to get much milk from the breast.
If you allow the baby to stay on the breast with a poor latch, he will get a slower flow of milk, which may increase his frustration with breastfeeding.
Consider using a nipple shield. A nipple shield is like a bottle nipple made of very thin silicone that you wear over your nipple during feedings. A nipple shield makes the breast feel more like the bottle to your baby and may help him to be more accepting of breastfeeding. Sometimes it helps to fill the tip of the shield with your expressed milk or formula, to help the baby get an immediate flow of milk as soon as he latches. This encourages the baby to begin sucking. Always enlist the help of an LC when using a nipple shield.
The nipple shield is a temporary device. Your LC will teach you how to wean from it once the baby is taking the breast more consistently.
During the transition from bottle to breast, be sure to monitor your baby's diapers to make sure he's getting enough breast milk while breastfeeding.
From age 5 days to 6 weeks, your baby should produce five to six sopping wet diapers and three to four palm-sized bowel movements each day.
Read "Is My Baby Getting Enough Milk?" for tips on judging how much milk he's getting when breastfeeding.
Always keep your baby's primary health-care provider informed of your plan to transition to breastfeeding from bottles. Your pediatrician may want to check the baby's weight more frequently during the transition to breastfeeding. Weight checks will help reassure you that your baby is doing well and getting enough milk while breastfeeding.
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I also found this here - https://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/baby/back-to-breast.html
Relactation and Adoptive Breastfeeding: The Basics
By Kelly Bonyata, BS, IBCLC
Relactation or induced lactation (for those who did not give birth to their baby) is essentially a two-fold process:
You will be teaching (or re-teaching) baby to nurse at the breast, and to equate nursing with comfort. If you're having problems getting baby to nurse, see Help -- My Baby Won't Nurse!
At the same time you will be developing (or re-developing) a milk supply. Developing a milk supply requires nipple stimulation (via baby nursing, hand expression, pumping or a combination) and milk removal (once there is milk to remove). If your baby will nurse, regular and frequent nursing sessions (even if baby is just learning in the beginning) will be very helpful.
If your baby is 4 months old or younger it will generally be easier to relactate. It will also be easier if your milk supply was well established (frequent and effective nursing and/or pumping) during the first 4-6 weeks postpartum. However, moms with older babies, moms who did not establish a good milk supply in the beginning, and adoptive moms who have never breastfed can also get good results. Keep in mind that breastfeeding is not just about the milk. Your child will get numerous benefits from breastfeeding even if you do not have a full milk supply.
If baby is willing to latch on, then nurse often (at least every 2-3 hours). Also, offer baby the breast for comfort any time you see a chance- at the end of a feeding when he is not hungry, when he is going to sleep and just waking up, and whenever he needs to comfort suck. Even if baby is not getting any milk at first, the nursing will be signaling your breasts to make milk.
What if baby will not latch? Keep working at it - some babies have gone back to the breast after many months of bottle feeding. Even if you are not able to persuade baby to latch, you have the option of re-establishing your milk supply via pumping and giving baby your milk via bottle or cup (this is called exclusive pumping).
If baby is not nursing well (or not yet latching at all), pumping will make a big difference in increasing your milk supply. Even if baby appears to be nursing well, additional pumping will speed up the relactation process. See Establishing and maintaining milk supply when baby is not nursing for more information.
You will also want to take a look at Hidden Hindrances to a Healthy Milk Supply to see if there are any factors that may compromise your milk supply.
Consider giving your baby his feedings via an alternative feeding method (rather than a bottle), such as a nursing supplementer, feeding syringe, finger feeding setup, flexible cup, spoon, medicine/eye dropper, etc. If your baby is latching well, a nursing supplementer can be a big help: it will encourage your baby to nurse at your breast by giving him a constant flow of milk (expressed milk and/or formula) while he stimulates your breasts to produce more milk. Read more about nursing supplementers in Notes from "Induced Lactation and Adoptive Nursing".
Some mothers use herbal supplements, such as fenugreek or blessed thistle, to stimulate milk production. You can usually buy these at health food stores or herb shops and occasionally at some large supermarkets or pharmacies. For more information see What is a galactagogue? Do I need one? ...Herbal remedies for increasing milk supply. There are also several prescription medications that increase milk supply. These herbal and pharmaceutical methods for stimulating milk supply will not be particularly effective unless combined with frequent nursing and/or pumping.
Finally, get in touch with a La Leche League Leader or Lactation Consultant/IBCLC (in person if at all possible) who has experience with relactation. It's great to have one-on-one support as you work through this.
Relactation and Adoptive Breastfeeding: The Basics
By Kelly Bonyata, BS, IBCLC
Relactation or induced lactation (for those who did not give birth to their baby) is essentially a two-fold process:
You will be teaching (or re-teaching) baby to nurse at the breast, and to equate nursing with comfort. If you're having problems getting baby to nurse, see Help -- My Baby Won't Nurse!
At the same time you will be developing (or re-developing) a milk supply. Developing a milk supply requires nipple stimulation (via baby nursing, hand expression, pumping or a combination) and milk removal (once there is milk to remove). If your baby will nurse, regular and frequent nursing sessions (even if baby is just learning in the beginning) will be very helpful.
If your baby is 4 months old or younger it will generally be easier to relactate. It will also be easier if your milk supply was well established (frequent and effective nursing and/or pumping) during the first 4-6 weeks postpartum. However, moms with older babies, moms who did not establish a good milk supply in the beginning, and adoptive moms who have never breastfed can also get good results. Keep in mind that breastfeeding is not just about the milk. Your child will get numerous benefits from breastfeeding even if you do not have a full milk supply.
If baby is willing to latch on, then nurse often (at least every 2-3 hours). Also, offer baby the breast for comfort any time you see a chance- at the end of a feeding when he is not hungry, when he is going to sleep and just waking up, and whenever he needs to comfort suck. Even if baby is not getting any milk at first, the nursing will be signaling your breasts to make milk.
What if baby will not latch? Keep working at it - some babies have gone back to the breast after many months of bottle feeding. Even if you are not able to persuade baby to latch, you have the option of re-establishing your milk supply via pumping and giving baby your milk via bottle or cup (this is called exclusive pumping).
If baby is not nursing well (or not yet latching at all), pumping will make a big difference in increasing your milk supply. Even if baby appears to be nursing well, additional pumping will speed up the relactation process. See Establishing and maintaining milk supply when baby is not nursing for more information.
You will also want to take a look at Hidden Hindrances to a Healthy Milk Supply to see if there are any factors that may compromise your milk supply.
Consider giving your baby his feedings via an alternative feeding method (rather than a bottle), such as a nursing supplementer, feeding syringe, finger feeding setup, flexible cup, spoon, medicine/eye dropper, etc. If your baby is latching well, a nursing supplementer can be a big help: it will encourage your baby to nurse at your breast by giving him a constant flow of milk (expressed milk and/or formula) while he stimulates your breasts to produce more milk. Read more about nursing supplementers in Notes from "Induced Lactation and Adoptive Nursing".
Some mothers use herbal supplements, such as fenugreek or blessed thistle, to stimulate milk production. You can usually buy these at health food stores or herb shops and occasionally at some large supermarkets or pharmacies. For more information see What is a galactagogue? Do I need one? ...Herbal remedies for increasing milk supply. There are also several prescription medications that increase milk supply. These herbal and pharmaceutical methods for stimulating milk supply will not be particularly effective unless combined with frequent nursing and/or pumping.
Finally, get in touch with a La Leche League Leader or Lactation Consultant/IBCLC (in person if at all possible) who has experience with relactation. It's great to have one-on-one support as you work through this.
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Atleast if I do have another one I know what to do. I'm so gutted they let me give her a bottle without explaining everything to me.
Well, healthcare professionals (including advanced degree doctors ie OB's and Pediatricians) are sadly lacking in any kind of useful breastfeeding knowledge.
You get a lot that will say "top them off"...
- Yah, and ruin my latch, and supply..."Just give them a bottle, they're hungry"
No duh Sherlock, mother nature made sure my body took cues from them being hungry to make more food for them! Hungry baby isn't mother nature's sign to run to my local market and get a plastic bottle and formula- it's her sign to get that baby on my booby as much as possible!They need to suck, give them a pacifier.
(see above two)...So many women do formula feed, so the occasion where a breastfeeding mama comes in, they're thrown for a loop. And they don't always realize themselves what a huge sacrifice and sometimes frustrating thing breastfeeding can be at first. So when they see post partum mama with crying baby, near tears, with nipps about ready to fall off, they just tell her to top it off... Shut both her and the baby up!
Now sometimes its medically necessary. Mama needs meds not good for BF'ing, or her production isn't quite up to par no matter what she does to try to enhance it. (I'm thinking of a future thread on that issue- funny enough there are studies that show mama's with low production have post partum insulin problems which inhibit milk production as it inhibits ovulation in PCOS ladies...) I'm not bashing formula, I'm bashing the people who should be in the KNOW with these things, just can't wait to chuck a free sample of formula at you.
Also, BFing takes t-i-m-e and a lot of healthcare people just don't have the time to dedicate to a new mommy to help encourage and instruct her and demonstrate for her what to do. She gets told "top him off with this formula" and they'll be good to go.
I'm not going to even get into as that baby gets older... if mama was successful at BFing despite the wonky info from the doc, he's gonna try to unknowingly undermine it again when he tries to get her to introduce solids at 4 months! This is essentially the same as telling a new mama her newborn needs to be topped off with forumula.
:: getting off soapbox ::
Sorry for that little tirade, blame it on lack of sleep as I nurse through the dreaded growth spurt
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It would be very hard for me to not BF, it is totally addictive. There are a few moments where I think, F this, give him a bottle, I am done. But then he latches on, and OMG, it is heaven.
Good for you love, do what you can and enjoy every moment!!!
Good for you love, do what you can and enjoy every moment!!!
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She will only feed on my left unless I'm really consistant and keep putting her on the right.
Marg- You totally crack me up!! I am so glad to find I have a kindered spirit in the pro-bfing world My coworkers tend to just roll their eyes at me when I get on a bfing rant.
Keep it up Toria. I know I was soooo sad when my son decided to wean himself. I tried to convince him otherwise for a few days, and then decided it might be pushing disturbing that I was wanting him to keep nursing more than he was But it is such a strong bonding experience...I just didn't want it to end. So I completely understand where you are coming from! Do it as long as you want
My coworkers tend to just roll their eyes at me when I get on a bfing rant.Keep it up Toria. I know I was soooo sad when my son decided to wean himself. I tried to convince him otherwise for a few days, and then decided it might be pushing disturbing that I was wanting him to keep nursing more than he was
But it is such a strong bonding experience...I just didn't want it to end. So I completely understand where you are coming from! Do it as long as you want
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I hope your able to still bf hun 
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I absolutely love BFing! I tormented myself for the last four days whether to get back on my meds and as much as I need them, Im going to hold off till shes at least 3 months old just so I can continue this incredible bond.
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