Luteal Phase Defect

[Spockette]

Is there such a thing???

Hi ladies,
Been trying for number 2 for a year. According to my Clearblue Fert Monitor and OPKs I ovulated around CD18. I began to spot on CD26 (9 days). I have had the day 3 and day '21' Blood tests done and everything has come back normal. Progestorone is absolutely fine. I have got pretty regular periods and no other issues.
When I spoke to my doctor about my 9 day luteal phase she didn't believe me She said to me it was impossible and all luteal phases are 14 days regardless of how long your cycle is. I tried explaining that my monitor and sticks have shown when I ovulate (approx) but she told me to chuck them away

Am I going nuts? Is she right? Has anyone been through this and seen a specialist about this?
Please help me? I feel like nobody is listening to me?



Thank you xxxxx

 

[xxshellsxx]

Your absolutely right!!

I have short 22/23 day cycles with a 9 day LP (my progesterone is also great) - my FS is not overly concerned but they are going to check the lining of my womb for thickness during this time as they think that could be the cause of LPD - if the womb lining is too thin, this is a problem, but if it's thick enough it shouldn't be too much of a concern - that's was how they explained it to me.

I've taken Vitamin B complex 100mg in the past and extended my LP to 13 days! I'm not taking it at the moment as i want my testing Au Natural in case the vits are masking a problem they can solve, and i'm back to a 23 day cycle

Hope that helps x

 

[Spockette]

Thanks Shells.

Really sorry you're going through this but really pleased someone is experiencing something similar to me.
I have just started taking B6 so I really hope it will help. If not, I'm off to see the specialist in March.

All the best hon and thanks again xxxxx

 

[popchick75]

B6 will help and I've heard that Vitex helps a lot of women also! Good luck!

 

[RomaTomato]

I have a short cycle of 23-24 days and my luteal phase is about 10 days, NEVER 14 days. I am 29w+1d. It can happen! . Good luck!

Edit: and I didn't take any supplements to lengthen it. Just folic acid.

 

[Spockette]

Thanks so much ladies....
RomaTomato, that's very reassuring and many congrats to you

I'm on B6 so will see how it goes.

Thx

 

[stacergirl]

Hi there! I too have a short cycle, 23-27 days at the max, and ovulate around cd13-17 which as you can see gives me a maximum lp of 10 days. I'm going to talk to my doc about it tomorrow. But it's kinda ironic bc the last time I was there she too said that lp will always be 14 days after o, but I beg to differ!! I started taking b6 at o last cycle and had my longest cycle last month which I think is good. I'm taking it this cycle too and will let you know how that goes. But I too had all blood work done and tests came back fine. So we are in a very similar situation!

Roma-that's great to hear! Congrats!!

 

[Spockette]

Hi there! I too have a short cycle, 23-27 days at the max, and ovulate around cd13-17 which as you can see gives me a maximum lp of 10 days. I'm going to talk to my doc about it tomorrow. But it's kinda ironic bc the last time I was there she too said that lp will always be 14 days after o, but I beg to differ!! I started taking b6 at o last cycle and had my longest cycle last month which I think is good. I'm taking it this cycle too and will let you know how that goes. But I too had all blood work done and tests came back fine. So we are in a very similar situation!

Roma-that's great to hear! Congrats!!

Hi Stacergirl,
Great news about the B6 and sorry to hear your doc was a bit clueless like mine. It's so frustrating isn't it?? Can you please let us know how it goes with the docs tomorrow. Will be really interesting to know...
Thanks and good luck.

Xxx

 

[stacergirl]

I will definitely let you know.

 

[stacergirl]

Hello! So I went to the doc and told her I've been temping and opking and that my luteal phase seems to be 8-10 days. Which she didn't question and told me if that's the case I could need progesterone cream to strengthen my uterine lining, even though my hormones were good on the lab results. She said that even if the egg is fertilized it hasn't had time to attach to the wall of the uterus and therefore is washed out with the menses. So if you've been trying to conceive for a while then I would try to ask about the lining of your uterus. That should be able to tell them if you need the cream or not. I told her I was taking b6 and she didn't seem to think it would matter either way but I guess I'll know for sure when I o and if I get Af. So if I were you i'd ask about this more. I know I'm going to look into it further.

Are there any other obstacles other that this that your facing with ttc? Because if not then this might be just what you need.

 

[xxshellsxx]

That's pretty much what my dr said too, it's good to know there is something that can be done

For me, until i have a HSG and /or lap and dye to check my tubes and for endo - everything else (other than LP) is 'normal' I have a follicle scan next thursday (7th feb) to check follicle size, so i'm moving once again in the right direction

GL!! x

 

[stacergirl]

Shells- your def moving in the right direction. Are they checkin your follicles because you are on meds? Or just to see where they are at? Has your dh been checked too? The HSG isn't too bad, do you know when you're scheduled for that?

 

[xxshellsxx]

No meds, just a routine check as i'm starting all my testing again Although when i first had my testing done about 9 years ago i wasn't ovulating regularly, my now Ex had very little sperm and our only option was ICSI. We have since separated (he's married and adopted) and my now DH has no issues (he has 2 kids from a previous relationship) so i tried to let nature take it's cause but it still hasn't happened! So i'm having my testing all done again... and it's actually better than it ever was when i was younger! My only apparent issue is LPD - until i have more invasive testing to rule anything else out! Dh SA, first one was slightly abnormal - but his second was absolutely fine, his Ex fell PG almost immediately with both kiddies!

HSG isn't scheduled yet, i have to have this scan done first, he wouldn't book anything else til after this!

So i'm beginning this journey again from scratch lol

 

[stacergirl]

Awe that sucks you have to start all over, but maybe you will have much more luck this time around!!! Good luck!

 

[Spockette]

Stacergirl, thank you soooooooooo much for coming back to update. I could actually cry with relief when I read your post. I've been banging my head against the wall with this luteal phase and now there could be a possible explanation for it.... All my blood results are fine and as far as i know I have no other issues but have been referred to a specialist so I will definitely mention the lining. Fingers crossed this coud solve the problem.
So what's next for you Stacergirl? Are you going to use the Prog cream and see how you go? Please let me know if it works

Shell that sucks but hopefully you will get an answer once and for all. Good luck with the scan and let us know how you get on

Xxxxx

 

[xxshellsxx]

Cheers girls, i'll let you know how it goes x Good luck to you too xx

 

[calm]

Sorry for what might seem a silly question but, do you count your luteal fase as ended when the spotting starts or when AF comes? Hope you (and me) get to the bottom of this spotting lark XXX

 

[EAGER]

I have the same question do u count the LP days just before spotting starts or before Af starts?

 

[Spockette]

To be honest girls, I've been counting it from the day of Ov until the day I see spotting. Maybe this is incorrect but surely seeing the start of AF so soon isn't right....
I have always understood that if you constantly spot in between periods you should see a doctor. Not sure how this is any different......

Good luck girls and please keep us updated xx

 

[xxshellsxx]

I count mine from when AF comes, I usually start spotting around 8dpo, which is not good, but CD1 is the day of AF. I confirmed this with my FS just the other day when booking my follicle scan to make sure we got the right day x