well i uaually 28/31 days, but id gone to 37 days was really hopeing, on sat eve went out for the 1st time in ages, n to put a really s**t end to a fantastic eve, went to use the ladies as u do before goin home only to find af had arrived, was not a happy bunny, been really depressed all weekend, iv never been that late, so it clomid next mth then, thanx for replying girls, good luck to u both, love donna xx