Any successes wit pu/pd method or something similar?

[baby287]

I need to teach lo to fall asleep without nursing as im back at work and it is making it miserable for my mom who watches him. I would like to stay away from cio, but would like to start changing something.
Im going to start getting more of a bedtime routine going, do bath every night and a story etc.. But when it comes to actually going to bed I always end up nursing to sleep and he sleeps in my bed.
Part of me wants to put him in his own..
I had to take him to the ER last night (hes fine now) but he was throwing up a lot and the dr said try not to nurse him because he was throwing up everything...anyways long story short she said by now he should be able to fall asleep on his own and sttn... Part of me says he'll do it when hes ready but the other part of me is exhausted and I dont want him to have such a hard time while im at work.
Gosh this is way long lol sorry guys, so how should I start getting him to settle on his own, or even just settle easily without nursing to sleep.
I tried what the dr. said, nurse til hes drowsy and take him off and put him down awake but sleepy so he falls asleep on his own but he wakes right up and looks at me like im nuts.
Help!

 

[hulagirl]

Hi
I used shh pat part of the baby whisperer idea, couldn't use pupd as lo had reflux. I did it at 4 months andit took about 3 nights with hardly any crying (i mean less than 10 min over the 3 days)
it worked fantastically and I will do it again with my second.
Look at the baby whisperer forum, it was in valuable with information on where to start and lots of help when I needed it. The book is also good and you can get it cheap off Amazon.

Will try to post a more detailed planof what we did if I get a chance later (lo is just getting over an ear infection)
x

 

[newmumgg]

Hey

I think a routine will make a big difference (it has for us) and then you could create some small steps to get your LO to self settle. For example, you could nurse til very drowsy then shush pat until asleep, then once that becomes easy, you could nurse but then take LO off and just shush pat etc etc. This is basically what we did (except for us it was rocking rather than nursing to sleep) plus a consistent routine, and now (my LO is 5 months) he can fall asleep himself at bedtime. Our next battle is naptime which I'm finding very hard but my LO has been teething and has had a bug. Good luck! Remember small, achievable goals are more realistic than one big step to start with. Also, the baby whisperer site, as pp mentioned, was super helpful for me x

 

[baby287]

I have tried that shh pat and he freaks out. I'm so frustrated now, sometimes he won't even nurse to sleep and its just making me angry, I'm exhausted. I just tried to put him down for his first nap today and he won't nurse to sleep, won't be rocked so I just put him in his bed with a glow you that plays music and he its just crying. I'm at a loss.

 

[newmumgg]

Is there any chance he could be overtired or overstimulated? My LO gets easily overstimulated so day time naps are a nightmare. I'm just wondering if that might be the case for you? Another tip I received was to have about 10mins wind down time before putting him down in cot. I'm sorry you're having such a tricky time. I'm also having a hard time today with naps, it is really frustrating x

 

[Noelle610]

What's your schedule/routine like? Some simple adjustments might really help.

I did gentle sleep training (I have a refluxer AND I'm a wimp). What we basically did was a dream feed around 10pm and then no other night feeds. Bedtime was never an issue for us in terms of falling asleep on her own, but night wakings were hard. When she woke, I would just soothe her in other ways. I didn't pick her up unless she was hysterical. I would just pat her or offer reassuring words. It actually worked really well, but I don't know if it's a method that would suit a more persistent kid.

 

[baby287]

Well I just did pu/pd combined with shh pat lol the lady time I put him down, I laid him in his tummy and he was lifting himself up crying and ipatted him and shhhed and his head literally stopped and he passed out lol amazing..but lets see how long this lasts til he wakes up. He used to sleeping in my bed all the time. Yeesh

 

[baby287]

I so appreciate the responses, thank you ladies. I think the wind down time is a great idea

 

[Noelle610]

Good luck!

 

[baby287]

First nap was amazing. He slept for an 1 1/2 hours.
Now it is nap #2 and... Not going great at all. If I can't get him down like before and just end up nursing to sleep does it undo any progress we made before? Ugh!!

 

[PepsiChic]

Ive successfully done pupd with my first son. as soon as it was "mastered" hes became a fantstic sleeper, and even now at 2.5 years hes still easy to put down for a nap and bedtime with no issues and if he wakes during the night he puts himself back to sleep.

The thing with pupd is consistency, the moment you change something it will stop working and yes that includes going back to feeding him to sleep.

the best thing to do is set up exactly how you put him down so that each and every time is identicle to the last time.

for example:

change diaper, put pjs on, give him something to hold like a muslin cloth, you give him a feed, burp, put down, walk away turn light off.

if he cries go back in pick up, shh and pat back, - dont put him down the minute he stops crying, you want him to be stopped and be completely relaxed but NOT asleep. put him down, give muslin again, walk away turn light off.

repeat!

its so that he gets used to the pattern - mummys giving me a feed and putting my pjs on and giving me my muslin = its time for sleep.

the best thing about pupd is that your baby isnt left to cry, but also its the best way to teach them to self settle when they wake durign the night. you'll soon learn that he'll wake, fuss cryf or a second and go back to sleep, or wake up and stay awake when he needs a feed. So you'll just follow his lead without having to worry!

Its *really* difficult I wont lie, its exhausting, so make sure you have someone to help you, and whoever helps look aftr baby understands and follows the exact same pattern you have set up, consistancy is very important for pupd to work.

 

[baby287]

Ive successfully done pupd with my first son. as soon as it was "mastered" hes became a fantstic sleeper, and even now at 2.5 years hes still easy to put down for a nap and bedtime with no issues and if he wakes during the night he puts himself back to sleep.

The thing with pupd is consistency, the moment you change something it will stop working and yes that includes going back to feeding him to sleep.

the best thing to do is set up exactly how you put him down so that each and every time is identicle to the last time.

for example:

change diaper, put pjs on, give him something to hold like a muslin cloth, you give him a feed, burp, put down, walk away turn light off.

if he cries go back in pick up, shh and pat back, - dont put him down the minute he stops crying, you want him to be stopped and be completely relaxed but NOT asleep. put him down, give muslin again, walk away turn light off.

repeat!

its so that he gets used to the pattern - mummys giving me a feed and putting my pjs on and giving me my muslin = its time for sleep.

the best thing about pupd is that your baby isnt left to cry, but also its the best way to teach them to self settle when they wake durign the night. you'll soon learn that he'll wake, fuss cryf or a second and go back to sleep, or wake up and stay awake when he needs a feed. So you'll just follow his lead without having to worry!

Its *really* difficult I wont lie, its exhausting, so make sure you have someone to help you, and whoever helps look aftr baby understands and follows the exact same pattern you have set up, consistancy is very important for pupd to work.

Thank you! Ok.. I'm afraid I don't have the energy for it lol but will definitly try my best. We share a room so I'm not sure it will work:/ ?

 

[PepsiChic]

Ive successfully done pupd with my first son. as soon as it was "mastered" hes became a fantstic sleeper, and even now at 2.5 years hes still easy to put down for a nap and bedtime with no issues and if he wakes during the night he puts himself back to sleep.

The thing with pupd is consistency, the moment you change something it will stop working and yes that includes going back to feeding him to sleep.

the best thing to do is set up exactly how you put him down so that each and every time is identicle to the last time.

for example:

change diaper, put pjs on, give him something to hold like a muslin cloth, you give him a feed, burp, put down, walk away turn light off.

if he cries go back in pick up, shh and pat back, - dont put him down the minute he stops crying, you want him to be stopped and be completely relaxed but NOT asleep. put him down, give muslin again, walk away turn light off.

repeat!

its so that he gets used to the pattern - mummys giving me a feed and putting my pjs on and giving me my muslin = its time for sleep.

the best thing about pupd is that your baby isnt left to cry, but also its the best way to teach them to self settle when they wake durign the night. you'll soon learn that he'll wake, fuss cryf or a second and go back to sleep, or wake up and stay awake when he needs a feed. So you'll just follow his lead without having to worry!

Its *really* difficult I wont lie, its exhausting, so make sure you have someone to help you, and whoever helps look aftr baby understands and follows the exact same pattern you have set up, consistancy is very important for pupd to work.

Thank you! Ok.. I'm afraid I don't have the energy for it lol but will definitly try my best. We share a room so I'm not sure it will work:/ ?

we had Barry in our room tillhe was 12 months so its possible, when hes in his crib you may want to walk out the room for a minute first though, he'll be more likely to start crying straight away if he can see you.

 

[Peardrop]

Pepsi Chic knows what she's talking about. We had similar issues and successfully used PU/PD at 6 months. It's the right time as its before they can pull themselves up. I did an early sleep training course in Australia and they suggested using the same routine and same words to signify sleep. We had wind down time, nappy change, into sleeping bag, then a book and a cuddle then we said 'happy snooze' to some pictures on the wall (blur dog, a friend in a photo and my parents !!!!!) and to anyone in our house eg OH and then put him down! Bed routine was bath, bottle/boob AND THEN book and cuddle and into bed drowsy but not asleep.

It might take a while and have setbacks but does help. Good luck xx