Anyone had to have a second d&c? (Update P4, been scanned & it's a botched D&C!)

[dan-o]

I think I have a problem.

I had my ERPC last friday (12 weeks) was OK for two days after, but then started passing clots with really painful cramps.
My doctor put me on augmentin to rule out infection & asked me to come back today if I'm still having problems, as I may need to be referred back to the hospital for a second d&c/erpc/whatever.

I was sick yesterday & had more painful cramps afterwards, but didn't pass anything else apart from fresh blood. I don't have a fever or any discharge & I have been scrupulously clean, so I don't see how I can have an infection?

Today I just feel sick, with period painy type cramps & backache. I'm very tired despite having 18 hours sleep. I also look a wreck, I seem to have developed spots on my face, my skin is pale & my abdomen very bloated despite not being able to eat much.

I did an HPT this morning to check my HCG & it is defintely darker than the one I did a week ago. In fact it's darker than the one I did two days ago.

Has anyone else had to have two D&C's to remove all the tissue? Is it common?

I knew I shouldn't have had a D&C, I should have just continued to wait, wish I could turn back the clock

I'm so upset about all this, not sure if it's the hormones, but I keep bursting into tears 24/7.

I just want 'me' back, I'm not used to being ill & certainly had no idea what I was letting myself in for by choosing the surgical route, I thought it was the 'easy' option

 

[Schmelly]

Oh hun that sounds dreadful. I'm so sorry to hear that you're going through this. The emotional trauma is bad enough without having to deal with these physical problems too. I hope the doc manages to sort things out for you really soon so that you can begin to heal properly.

 

[rachjim98]

Oh Dan-o I am so sorry I was hoping things were getting better for you after you horrible ordeal. Many to you my friend am so sorry this is dragging on the way it is.

 

[Nicki2202]

Oh I'm so sorry to hear, I can only imagine how you must be feeling, it's bad enough having a MC but for surgery not to work is awful. I hope you do feel better soon and they get to the bottom of this

 

[Chilli]

My thoughts are with you! I have had some terrible pains lately and had to go back for a scan yesterday to check if I needed another D&C and I felt petrified, so I know how you feel. If you do have to have another one try to stay strong, the physical side will be over soon... I don't know what else to say, I'm so sorry

 

[dan-o]

Aww thanks guys I'm so fed up with it all right now.

Anyway, I'm off to see my GP... again, lol.
They couldnt fit me in today so I'm in at 7.30 in the morning, yikes!
They must think I've gone mad, before I started TTC I would go see them about once every 2 years, for something simple like a broken arm

I think I will ask for a couple of HCG betas this time

 

[lou1979]

Wow huni you poor thing

let us know how you get on xxxxxx

 

[Nicki2202]

How did u get on at the docs?

 

[todteach]

Hi hun. So sorry to hear about your loss. xox

I needed a second d&c for my first miscarriage. My first missed miscarriage was discovered after spotting then cramping and (lastly) gushing blood on May 17th. Had my first d&c on May 18th.

Eleven days later I was in for a second d&c as they didn't remove everything, and I had developped an infection. I was passing large silver coloured clots and having excrutiating pain, to the point of nearly fainting. (my poor husband was witness to all of this) Since I had nothing to compare this to, I thought it was normal.

The doctor sent me for blood tests and an ultrasound. They discovered that my levels were still quite high, and saw "retained products of conception" in my uterus. I was put on Keflex (antibiotic) and booked in for the second d&c.

When a d&c is performed, it is a blind sweep of your uterus. They don't use a camera or scope for the procedure, which amazes me as when you have knee surgery, they use a scope for crying out loud. And there's already an opening down there (no need to make an incision!)

I hope this is not happening with you hun. And if it is, I know that you will be fine. You are a strong person, although you may not feel that way right now. And please don't say that you wouldn't have gone through with the d&c in the first place had you known. At the time, this was the best option for you. I had been told that I could wait it out or have the surgery. The doctor was leaning towards the surgery, so that is the method that I chose. Had you waited you could have been weeks in limbo, and it is so hard to attempt to heal emotionally when baby is still inside. Does that make sense?

Having said that, my second miscarriage was done naturally at home, but baby's heartbeat had stopped at 7 weeks this time, not 12 weeks like the first time. February 9th I was told that baby's heartbeat was gone, I miscarried February 16th. So, baby was seven weeks, but I was nearly ten weeks gone at this point. If I hadn't miscarried naturally in another 2 to 3 weeks, I was to call back to the doctor's office. To me that's a long time. At that point they would have done a d&c, for my second pregnancy.

Fingers crossed tightly that you're okay. pm me if you want to chat. i should be on the computer again tomorrow night. take care hun xox Sending you

 

[dan-o]

Thanks hunni, sorry to hear you went through all that, sounds like you've had a really rough time of it.

I have no idea why they do it blind either, there must be a reason, but with todays technology it seems odd they don't take advanage of it

I did try my best to wait, but 2 weeks on from finding out that my baby had definitely died, I was still showing no signs of MC at all. I would have preferred to be induced, but they had no beds for a while, so opted for my last resort, a D&C, mainly to preserve my sanity, lol!

...Anyway, I saw my doctor again this morning & he definitley thinks it was an infection as I've responded well to the antibiotics, he said I look a different person to the one he saw on tuesday
I'm to go back next thursday/friday for some betas if my HPT's are not neagtive by then, just incase I am still retaining something, but he thinks i've probably passed it already & it's now a case of waiting for my hormones to drop & the bleeding to stop.

I feel so much better now too, hopefully NOW it's over, lol. (deja vu, lol!)

It's just my luck to be one of the percentage who has an infection or retains some tissue after the D&C tho, lol! I'm the sort of person who always gets the hair in my meal at a restaurant, or two left shoes, or a washing machine which leaks etc etc

Thanks to everyone for listening to me wailing & whining through all this

 

[Rumpskin]

So sorry sweety, you have really been through it.

Glad all went well today though.

A step in the right direction hopefully

 

[pharrison87]

Heya... I had to have a second D&C (the first one was on my 21st birthday!) I bled for 4 weeks straight afterwards, two days after being put onto antibiotics due to an infection i bled clots like someone had opend a tap and had seriously bad cramps! I was in Hospital for 4 days waiting for another D&C which went well.

Its hard enough going through it once let alone having to bleed everyday for a month then be told you have to do it all again!!!

I only had a D&C because they said 'there was less risk of infection'....

So i am very glad you have responded well!! xxxxxxxxx

 

[who's_mummy]

Glad you got on ok at the doctors and are feeling better, sorry you had to go through all that to get there though.



Gemma x

 

[moonmama]

Hi, I'm new to this. So sorry for your loss

I had a second erpc 4 days ago-the first one was 17 days before that, It was picked up at 12 weeks that there was no hb. I would say ask for a scan! with me I'd been passing clots and had heavy bleeding right up until I went back for a second opinion but it had all subsided over the weekend so I almost didn't go-but when they scanned me there was still quite a bit of retained product there. I had also completed a course of 2 different anti biotics because my GP said it sounded like an infection but I was told during the scan that the infection has spread to my fallopian tubes so it looks like I wont be able to conceive again- although I'm on 3 different antibiotics now and i'll be rescanned next week so there is just a tiny glimmer!. As if having 2 mc in a row and 2 erpcs isn't bad enough. So please get checked out xx

 

[who's_mummy]

moonmama, I'm really sorry to hear about that, what a time you've had . Fingers crossed for you for your next scan.


Gemma x

 

[dan-o]

Oh my god moonmamma, that is frightening. I hope you will be OK

If I was told I couldn't have any children because of a procedure I never even wanted, I think I would go seriously off the rails. I feel physically sick at the thought of it.

Did you have any physical symptoms of the infection (if you don't mind me asking)

I think I will seek a second opionion if it can get that serious that quick.
Thanks so much for letting me know.

Sending you prayers moonmama xx

 

[moonmama]

Hi Dan-o, no I dont mind you asking at all- sorry for TMI though! The only real sign that it was an infection was the persistant bleeding after 2 weeks and a slightly fishy smell to my loss (sorry!) But I had no temp that I can recall and the smell did seem to improve with the ABs. I put the abdo pain down to the after effects of the erpc. I read about the risks of infection, but to be honest just didn't really take it seriously and just wanted to feel better and have a new cycle so I could try again. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though isn't it?!

 

[dan-o]

Thanks so much moonmama.

I'd love a scan to check everything is gone, but I know for a fact I wont get one uness I kick up a hoo haa or go private.
I'm going to sleep on this info & have a good think on what to do next.

xx

 

[susan_1981]

I was just thinking, have you tried doing a digital test? I'd probably try one with the conception indicator and see what it says. I hope you get this all sorted. It's bad enough having a miscarriage let alone what you are going through now. I hope you get some answers soon xxxxx

 

[TheNewWife]

Wow, Dan-o, I keep checking back in this section to see how you're doing. You sure have been through it all. As terrible as this sounds, it has made me more grateful for my "easy" miscarriage.

Hang in there. I just know there are great things waiting for you when it's all over.