hiya thanks for your reply! well, the docs are not going to give me a lapraoscpy (sorry about spelling) until i have been trying for at least 6 months (on month 2) so i dont know how bad it is, i do get pretty bad pain almost everyday and have two areas around my womb and ovaries that have pain most, all my GP has said is that in most cases the women that get the most pain generally have the smallest amount of endo, but i wont know for another 4 months or so! so pretty annoying really! i know what you mean about docs being pretty clueless on endo, i had to see 5 different doctors until i got a diagnosis xx