Back from Hollibops...

[CurlySue]

...and I don't recognise ANYONE in the BFP announcements part. Not one name. Was hoping to see one of 'us' there but it seems that wasn't to be. Fate is a tosser!!!

Typically, I had my 'fertile window' whilst on holiday. Have 'done it' six times in seven days so I am hoping that, against many odds, I won SOMETHING in Vegas. Feeling very shite today. Sore throat, stuffy nose, headaches, clearly the exhaustion and the flights finally caught up and made me ill. Not sure if I ovulated but if I did I am anywhere from 4 to 8 dpo. More likely to be at the lower end of that scale...

Wouldn't it be just perfect if we could have New Year babies?

 

[Farie]

Hey there, glad the holibops were good ... and go you for all that BDing!!!

Fingers tightly crossed for a good start to the new year with BFP's

Ps - totally agree about BFP announcements! TT's is the only person I recognise!

 

[HAYS]

Hey Hun totally agree!! annoying isnt it! I reckon im out this month even tho we BD alot
xx

 

[CurlySue]

I reckon that as well Hays. I've been checking cervical position and all that and not once did it go soft and open. Its been high and medium for the entire time, ranging from medium to hard, and I'm pretty sure its ALWAYS open. CM has been creamy for the whole month too so I guess I didn't ovulate again. My temps are not accurate though because I have what I suspect to be tonsillitis and a cold so they are not really go on-able.

It's horrible knowing that it's 'not our month' before the month is even out but I reckon it's intuition. Have hospital appointment on 15th. I would've liked to have been able to skip it.

Ugh.

 

[HAYS]

Aw babe i feel it, i really do! its such a shite feeling that you just 'know' you arent, and it doesnt matter how much effort you put in, you know in your head you havent done enough, and even before the bitch has arrived!!

ARSE

 

[CurlySue]

The annoying thing is, I think I did enough. They say on Clomid you ovulate between 5 and 10 days after the last pill. Well that was Friday, so that means that I SHOULD have ovulated the five days from Christmas Day. We did it twice on Christmas Day, once on 27th, 28th and twice on 29th. The only thing is, we did it in the morning sometimes then in the night, so it was ages in between, but that has covered it all hasn't it?

I feel that everything was against it from the start though. I forgot my pre-seed, forgot my antibiotics, forgot my little silver buzzing vibrator thing that actually helps me not to get cystitis (oddly) so we had to get this personal lubricant from Walgreens (shameful!) It says on the back "this is not a contraceptive and contains no spermicide" but I know that anything that isn't Pre Seed messes with The Jizz, so to speak, and stops it from getting where it is. I can't have sex without using something as I am too prone to infection so all I could do was try to make sure it didn't get near my cervix. It must've done though.

Add to that the fact that on a good day we only got three hours of sleep, perhaps a couple of hours later in the day, and the fact that J was drinking Corona because he was on his holidays, the fact that I was drinking diet coke and eating a load of shit, I've hardly covered myself in potential pregnancy vibes, have I?

 

[rachelle1975]

Welcome back CS!

Well check you out - Vegas, lots of and gambling..... if you were a man i would say that would be a perfect holiday

Glad you are back, sorry the flight/aircon lurgies have caught up with you!

We are gonna get our own BFP section in the LTTTC board so it'll be all good and i should imagine a lot of us will be posting there before the end of 2009!

Hope you and your OH had a good break away

 

[CurlySue]

Vegas, some slot machine wins and lots of sex. It is a man's dream, isn't it? Probably explains why J enjoyed it a lot more than I did. Not to say I didn't but last time I went it was gorgeous pool and bikini weather and this year it was just icy cold so no pool for me. Was nice though. Nice to get away for awhile.

Of course, we had to get up at 3am to watch the football but needs must...

I reckon it's the smoking that has done me in. With UK being all non smoking I'm just not used to it any more. My eyes were a mess. But yeah, clearly the air con and the enclosed spaces have just spread Disease!!!!

Aw you have an IVF consultant appointment in February? I think I have one in January. Well, its not an IVF consultation but I was told that in my January review I would be put on the IVF waiting list. We are roughly at the same level, yay. Well, not yay because we're not pregnant but you know what I mean.

I so want a baby. Now.

 

[rachelle1975]

Me too - and yep, my appt is the same as yours! The FS nurse told us that we would be going for ICSI but we see the consultant 11th Feb to get it 'officially' confirmed. DH is still skiving and hasn't done his SA yet - littl f******!! He's gonna do it next Friday as abstaining will be no probs since the witch is here!

Have you got any idea what your wait is like for IVF or how many goes you get yet?x

 

[HAYS]

BFPS all round this year! looking forward to seeing some familiar names in the LTTTC BFP section
xxxxx

 

[CurlySue]

Rachelle, when I went in September I was told that the wait time was three to four months and that we get three gos free. I don't know if its still that time length but it was then so I'm sure four months later it won't be much different.

 

[FJL]

Welcome back CS!

I agree on the BFP's...not ever 1 familar name

But yes, our BFP announcement section in here is coming, that'll be great

Good luck for this cycle, you certainly covered all BD bases!

 

[rachelle1975]

Wow that is really good hun!

In november we were told our PCT has no wait and will treat within 6 months (they have the spaces just need the staff to do it) and currently we get 1 go free but it's under review so if it goes up then it will be from April 1st. I'm aiming for May for the weightloss and hopefully between May-August we'll start our cycle!

You do realise there are so many people having IVF in the next few months on this board, the odds are that 1 in 4 should get a BFP - that's pretty good going!!!

 

[CurlySue]

Welcome back CS!

I agree on the BFP's...not ever 1 familar name

But yes, our BFP announcement section in here is coming, that'll be great

Good luck for this cycle, you certainly covered all BD bases!

Evil isnt it, really?

I can imagine it to be a very quiet place, but at least the names will be familiar.

Hee, yeah, I did a lot of BD. It's the other factors that are bothering me, i.e. the fact that I probably did not ovulate as I have had nothing to suggest I did, but at least I have a lot of ammo to arm myself with when I go to appointment in a couple of weeks time...

 

[CurlySue]

Wow that is really good hun!

In november we were told our PCT has no wait and will treat within 6 months (they have the spaces just need the staff to do it) and currently we get 1 go free but it's under review so if it goes up then it will be from April 1st. I'm aiming for May for the weightloss and hopefully between May-August we'll start our cycle!

You do realise there are so many people having IVF in the next few months on this board, the odds are that 1 in 4 should get a BFP - that's pretty good going!!!

What is PCT? I am probably thick but those letters are Non Familiar to Moi.

Within six months is good though, considering that some areas are quoting at least two years on a waiting list. I know that only recently our local hospital had up to a four year waiting list but that excess funding has helped them to get the IVF wait lists down. I think that is why I was not offered IUI because the funding is in place for IVF. Also because there is little point, really, I reckon, because Clomid doesn't work for me, I hardly ovulate so there would be no egg to artificially inseminate sperm near to.

I think I need something stronger than Clomid...something better...

1 in 4. Ai I am such a glass half empty person because then I think "Yeah I will be one of the 3 that don't!"

I reckon that my first round of IVF will probably be in May. I dunno why, just a feeling. OH does not think it will get that far but I always thought it would.

 

[FJL]

I'm not very positive either CS. I mean, in the 2nd half of last year, Wannabemum, maz, strawberry199 and Me all did IVF stim cycles. Maz and I both had early m/cs and the other girls BFN's. Thats not fucking good enough! At least one of us should've gotten a permanent BFP

 

[rachelle1975]

Ah... PCT is primary care trust (are you uk?) I live in Surrey but we are come under London - our clinic is in Roehampton which is near Wimbledon but because we live in Surrey and not London - there is no wait - London has 2 years!

I agree re IUI - you want the best possible chance and i think we do our own research and know what is worth it. I don't think they will even offer it for DH and I - i'm resigned to not getting my BFP without the IVF and i'm cool with that.

What else is there other than clomid? I take it if you went down the IVF route then the drugs they give you would stimulate your follies and you'd get eggs that way? (sorry for being a thicko!)

A good friend of mine just had her little boy Thomas through ICSI last November. She told me that when she went into the IVF she knew it had a 30% success rate so she figured 4 goes and she would get lucky. The first go she was using as a trial, said it would be almost a tester to see how the drugs worked and she hoped that she would get a BFP by 2nd, 3rd or 4th go. When she got a BFN the 1st cycle she was gutted and was full of despair despite trying to gear herself up for it before - then on her 2nd she got her BFP.

I'm kinda trying to follow her way of thinking - the 1st go won't work but maybe the 2nd will! x

 

[rachelle1975]

I'm using chillipink as making me happy - she got her BFP end of last year after IVF and is pregnant with twins - that little bit of hope will keep me going

 

[CurlySue]

I'm not very positive either CS. I mean, in the 2nd half of last year, Wannabemum, maz, strawberry199 and Me all did IVF stim cycles. Maz and I both had early m/cs and the other girls BFN's. Thats not fucking good enough! At least one of us should've gotten a permanent BFP

The odds aren't amazing, are they? It gets less and less fair the more I think about it, actually.

 

[CurlySue]

Ah yes Rachelle, PCT. I get it now. My nearest hospital is Liverpool Women's and they are apparently the IVF Capital of Europe so that helps, a little!

It was never offered to me. I can only imagine that is because of how long we have been off the pill without success, the fact that things appear clear and that the funding is simply not there for IUI where it is for IVF. I would prefer IVF. I don't actually think IUI sounds like it's any good.

Yeah its like an injection when you are doing IVF, something to stimulate stuff, and then HSG I think. Clomid has done literally sod all for me. I have not ovulated since the start of September. I might have done this month but I dont trust my temps as I am ill. They have not gone up substantially anyway. Nothing to indicate proper ovulation anyway.

I dunno. I just dont like the odds. Its 30 percent every cycle, no? They say normal TTC is 25 and in all the months I've been having sex off the pill (this is going into my 37th month since I stopped taking it) I have not been in that 25 percent. I want to know why but there is nothing telling me why. I only hope that since with IVF the egg is already fertilised it will make some difference.