can you request IVF???

[MrsF]

Hi ladies,
Have been 'off' for a month getting some much needed R&R from TTC. Just to update you, after 3 rounds of clomid and no BFP, it all got a bit much. I have had the past month on no clomid and i imposed a complete sex ban. It's been great, lol!!!! Don't get me wrong, i love my DH dearly, but complete abstinence was the only way forward to try and take my mind off it all!!

So, after a month, i was two days late!!!! Oh, the irony!! I knew there was no way a BFP was on the cards, and for the first time in 3 and a half years, i didnt test! And for the first time in 3 and half years, i didnt cry when AF came. Sounds silly, i know, but it was a nice month.

Got my next FS appt on thurs. I have a feeling he may well up my clomid to 100mg for 3 months (not sure my body's gonna love him for that....) but my question is, if he does put me on for another 3 or 6 months, can he put me on the IVF waiting list in case it doesn't work, or is that only an option when all the clomid months and upped-dosages havent worked?

Also, can i request monitoring throughout the clomid months to track progress?

any input would be gratefully received ladies, i've already got some questions ready for him, lol, he's gonna love me!!!
x

 

[maz]

Good luck for your FS appointment next week.

I thought that monitoring was meant to happen when taking clomid, otherwise how do they know your dosage is working? I'd ask about being placed on the IVF waiting list, just in case, and see what he says. I don't see why it can't be done - after all, if you don't need the slot, it can be cancelled anyway...

 

[CurlySue]

Monitoring never happened for me,Maz, I was just trusted to tell them if it worked or not. MrsF, the best bet, if you don't want to do Clomid any more (I know how you feel, I actually have this conspiracy theory that it's a sodding placebo) exaggerate your symptoms. Tell them that it didn't work. Tell them that you never saw a temp rise and you never felt ovulation, never had positive OPKs, etc. Tell them you had severe mood swings and headaches.

Tell them you had visual disturbances. I had them on both 50 and 100mg, worse on 100, still bad on 50. They won't want to up your dosage if you have such bad side effects. They also don't like giving out Clomid for more than six months, I think it is. They say if it hasnt worked in the first four to six months it most likely never will.

 

[Kirstin]

Not sure really, I didn't want to wait and went straight to private, something to consider if they want to keep you on clomid? xx

 

[Millnsy]

(I know how you feel, I actually have this conspiracy theory that it's a sodding placebo)

CurlySue I'm loving that! I agree its a bloody waste of time! This is my 6th round on 100mg and all that happens is a get hot sweats and then feel bloomin suicidal whilst I take it! Spent the whole of valentines night sobbing my heart out - can't even remember exactly what it was that set me off or why I was such a mess.

MrsF you should be getting monitored and I can't complain on the that front. OFf to the clinic for the scans again on Friday - 6th round so last time for me, woo hoo! next month is a month off to wash DH sperm and test it again and then in April will be IUI!

BEst of luck...

 

[CurlySue]

(I know how you feel, I actually have this conspiracy theory that it's a sodding placebo)

CurlySue I'm loving that! I agree its a bloody waste of time! This is my 6th round on 100mg and all that happens is a get hot sweats and then feel bloomin suicidal whilst I take it! Spent the whole of valentines night sobbing my heart out - can't even remember exactly what it was that set me off or why I was such a mess.
.

I have known so many people who have been on it and it has done bugger all for them. Honestly? I ovulate sometimes. I know I do. On this stupid thing? I did not ovulate ONCE. Not once, in four whole cycles. I was only put on it to see if it could regulate and guarantee my somewhat sporadic ovulatory patterns but all it did was make me edgy, paranoid, weepy and in pain.

They offer it out so frequently, though, that I actually do believe (or think I believe) it's just a way of getting rid of us; of shutting us up for a few months. Then when it 'miraculously' works for people who get pregnant off their first cycle they say "OMG Clomid worked." What if it didn't work, though? What if that was simply 'their' month and it was an utter coincidence?

One thing is for certain, it was so horrendous that I would NEVER recommend anyone go on it 'just because'. But that's just me.

Exaggerate the symptoms, MrsF. Guaranteed it will work if you, like me, no longer want to be on this horrible drug and want to move onwards and upwards. I didn't need to exaggerate mine but she didn't mention it twice. I actually thought, at first, she was going to put me on 150mg for a couple of months but when i explained how bad things were she didn't even bother.

 

[MrsF]

Thanks for all your responses guys, i completely appreciate your honesty. Curlysue, i hear what you're saying about the 'if it hasn't happened in the first four months' bit cos that's what i thought. clomid makes me feel like utter crap and i really dont think i can handle a double dose - i could even feel it affecting me at work.

Millnsy and Maz, i thought i should be being monitored, i guess its different depending on your PCT - that's defo on my list of questions for him tomorrow!!! I have been thinking about private treatment Kirsten, we're currently working on clearing all debts (including dramatically overpaying mortgage) in case that is ultimately what we decide to do.

Well, i'm feeling a bit more positive about tomorrow's appointment, albeit i would love to have gone in and said 'yup, it's worked.' I'll update tomorrow afternoon afterwards to let you know the score.

Thanks again peeps, you're thoughts and support help me more than you could ever know x x x x x x x

 

[CurlySue]

That is why it makes me shake my head when there are so many people desperate to go on it. Clomid. People speak of it like its some wonder drug when in actual fact it just a) makes a person feel like crap and b) rarely works, it seems. I recall reading an article in the paper just before I went on it that said studies prove it does not give you any more of a chance in getting pregnant than if you are NOT on it. I understand that the purpose of it is to help you ovulate but why, then, do they just hand it out to anyone?

I was like you though. I was never monitored. I was just sent away and told to go back in four months time. Ridiculous, really, when you consider that those four months were wasted on a treatment that did not work!

Write yourself a list. Put down all of the things you found. Don't be shy. Tell them how shit it made you. Tell them your charts prove that you did not ovulate on it. Tell them you could barely handle 50mg, let alone 100. Tell them that you really did not feel well at all and that it actually scares you to think how awful you would feel on an increased dosage.

Or, if you are brave, just say no. No more Clomid. Clomid does not work for you. Give me something else...etc...

 

[MrsF]

curly, just pm'd you x x x