Chinese Accupuncture

[BBbliss]

Thanks girls, I'm really excited too! I just feel soooo tired today I took a 2hr nap and I never ever do that and I hope it's implantation I can't wait to test, I think I'll test Saturday that will be 4dpt and since they were hatching at transfer maybe I can get something


Kits, I think that's a great idea, I've always wondered why nobody tried to meet before. I'd just love to have the opportunity to chat in person with someone who is going though the same thing. I don't ever talk about it with my friends and I wish I could. There's no way for me as I'm in south Florida and I know non of you are even remotely near me, but you ladies in the UK already have a bond! Btw, I'm in advertising too, I work in TV/print advertising on shoots.

 

[kits]

Yea, it's the whole talk to someone in person bit. Unless you go through it you just don't understand.

My sister think she was having problems conceiving because she didn't get pregnant on her first or second try (apparently she did on her third). Ummm no, i think it's because she's in a loveless marriage. Honestly, she tries to console me in the worst way possible.

When I told my mom & sisters about the chemical, this is exactly what she what's app'd me:

For your next cycle, you should get an ovulation kit plus wait until you miss your period for at least 2 weeks. Set a reminder on your cell and don't even think about it. I would even take a pottery, dancing or any other classes that you won't be able to take when the baby comes during those 2 weeks. You may not feel it, but every time you test or think about it, your body is stressed.

Really?! A pottery class is what's going to keep me from testing too early? And I'm just going to forget the tww until my phone reminds me? Top advice, honestly. Why didn't I think about pottery class?!!

Then my mom buts in & lectures me on stress. They're the one who stress me out!

But yea my point is, finding people to actually talk to isn't v easy my poor fella has to hear most of my side & he's so adoring, listens to every word I say (even if some of it goes in one ear & out the other) but sometimes I think it's not fair on him.

We'll get there ladies.. Eventually!

I wonder when Blythe is going to test, I hope she has a stronger will power than me.

I love how we get to watch each others progress.

Loads of hugs, have a great day ladies!

 

[Briss]

cant decide what to do FSH went down to 13, not ideal but it's a chance. E2 is 250 which is a little high but acceptable I think. shall I go now or skip this cycle? I mean there is no guarantee what's going to happen next cycle FSH may go down but it may also go up. 13 is not brilliant and they may still refuse but it's the best I have seen in a year so who knows it might be as low as it goes with me.

 

[Jazzbird]

Briss - I am hoping your fsh levels will keep on the downwards trend with a few more months of Dr E herbs. If anyone can reduce them, he can! I have a lot of faith in him. What does he advise you to do with ivf timeframes?

BBbliss - praying for you. Hope you are managing to relax.

Kits - your family advice must be very annoying. Loads of people told me to try ov kits. Like id be stupid to try for a whole year age 36 without considering them!

 

[BBbliss]

Kits, that kind of advice is precisely why I don't talk to my friends about it and besides statistically my chances are something like 4% so I keep it to myself mostly.

Briss, this is great progress, maybe Jazz is right and it can get even lower, waiting one cycle won't hurt, maybe it's still going down.

Afm, I'm staying calm just letting time pass, I don't feel any cramps but I woke up in the middle of the night with a wave of nausea, could be the progesterone but I'm hoping its the beginning of something more I read somewhere its possible to feel morning sickness as soon as day after implantation. Who knows

 

[alison29]

Yay briss it's working, it maybe the dietary changes too!
speaking of sneezing to get preg we were at a restaurant last nigth and saw a woman who was 7 months gone with her 7 month old daughter smoking a cigarette. Really? There is no rhyme or reason to any of it

 

[Breaking Dawn]

Briss...that is great progress!!!

Bliss...I'm probably the closest to you....i live in toronto.. lol.

 

[Jazzbird]

BBbliss - I suspected I was pregnant in 2ww because I felt sick when someone opened the lid on their coffee on the train. Really hoping this is it for you!

 

[melly2]

Bbliss: I know this tww is agonizing. Each person's body is so different. I really didn't have much symptoms until a week later I felt nauseous. I also could feel the implantation cramping as well. Hang in there!

Kits: I know how other's advice can be annoying. I have kept this a super secret from everyone in my family with the exception of my best friend who went through her own fertility problems. I love my mom and sis, but they are so damn annoying that I don't even plan to tell them I'm pregnant until August, which by then, I'll be about five months along! ;-) I just want to leave them out-of-the-loop. It also helps that they both live over 1,000 miles away from me.

Briss: It sounds like you're making progress on your levels!

 

[Blythe]

Briss - i am wondering if you should go for it given such a big change within hours! Its all so variable and all changes from one month to the next - there is no ideal time.

i hope i am in a better place to do an IVF round with these extra weeks of TCM treatment…having said that my DH has not moved for 3 weeks and is on very strong pain medication. so whilst i may be fitter his sperm may well be compromised. Sometimes we just have to say "f**k it" and jump in whilst closing eyes and not giving it too much thought.

Kits - well meaning advice from loved ones and friends used to really upset me….i just nod and grin now….and say "really" when they suggest i should relax because they knew of a couple that had been trying for ages [probably about 4 months] and they stopped trying and pooooof…they are pregnant….I f**king hate that couple!! I have to remember that for the majority of people TTC is fun and a short process hence advice like that, although not especially sensitive in light of your chemical. I had one around the one year mark and felt pretty devastated.

BBBliss - already some promising signs - hope they continue and you get an early BFP. keeping everything crossed for you and keeping you in my prayers

 

[kits]

Briss! That's good news, ooooh so what are you going to do? That's a tough one. Do you think you could hold off another cycle? If your levels have progressed as a direct result of your treatments, then logically I'm guessing that if you continue your treatment that you should continue to progress? So then they should just keep getting better even if just in baby steps.

Sorry, when I can't decide I have to look at things scientifically. Which doesn't always work because I just end up saying oh what the heck, I'm going for it! Yolo & all that. But this is much more sensitive. What does hubby say?

Bliss with the 2 aren't your chances doubled or is your chance 4% without the transfer?

Blythe is your hubby taking any conception supplements? Or at least eating his veggies? I'm guessing that as long as his swimmers are sorta fresh then they should still be ok? At least that's what I've heard. I've asked my gp about whether I should make my oh eat more veggies & he just laughed.

With ivf don't they pick the best swimmers anyhow?

Ahhh! Tea time, be back later!!!

 

[BBbliss]

Kits, thats why we put both in. I was actually being generous with myself, lol I think the statistics for a 43 year old is 4% and a 45y is 1% for IVF success so I picked 43 since I'm in the middle, lol but statistics also say I should have DOR at this point and miraculously I don't. On my first u/s I had 23 follicles and the tech said she wouldn't be able to tell the difference between my ovaries or that so a 30y but I had an RE tell me they were all bad eggs, I refused to listen and went with my instincts and found a dr. That believes I should try, he was so pleased with our cycle he said we can do it again if it doesn't work this time. Lets hope I don't have to go back

I've had mild cramps today and just felling tired, I have been sleeping a lot

Breaking, LOL I think only ging and melly are in the US but both very far from me.

 

[Jazzbird]

Just subscribing again - darn iPhone is too small and my big fat fingers keep accidentally unsubscribing me!

 

[kits]

Biological clocks suck! I had no idea the statistics were that low.

Praying for you Bliss. Your doctor sounds pretty awesome. Just an ounce of positivity can make all the difference.

I have a christening to go to this weekend & they're good friends of ours so I bought a Vera Wang music box as a gift. It just arrived today & it's sooo lovely. I want to keep it!!

Just dreaming away of our turns ladies....

Can't wait for acupuncture next week!

 

[melly2]

I'm about 99% sure I'm miscarrying now. I had blood since 2PM today, no clumps, but bright red blood. My doctor is doing an ultrasound on me first thing tomorrow morning, but I'm quite convinced at this point that this is a miscarriage. Ugh!

 

[BBbliss]

Oh melly, I really hope all is well with the baby, please try to get a restful night before your u/s tomorrow. I know it's so so hard but try to stay calm and have trust that everything will be resolved and you can have some peace of mind tomorrow. I'm praying it will all be alright.

You are super healthy and you already produced 6 beautifully heathy embryos. Have faith

 

[kits]

Awww... Melly

Don't despair melly just yet, everything could still be ok. I have read about lots of women who bleed.

Praying for you hun, and like Bliss said try to stay calm & positive. You're going to get answers soon.

Hang in there & keep your chin up, loads of keep us posted.

 

[kits]

Melly are you in any pain?

 

[Briss]

melly, I am still hoping your baby is doing well. bleedings happen and often they have nothing to do with the baby. In the last few years I have read so many stories when bleedings turned out OK. It's scary and such worrying time. I am praying everything works out well for you.

ladies, thank you very much for your advice! I was panicking and felt like I could not make a decision, LTTTC does this to you. In the end I talked to DH and thought about it and decided to take the risk. I did all my bloods yesterday at the fertility clinic and hoping my Oestradiol went up little bit and moved FSH down to 12 so I could meet their criteria. the problem with FSH is that it fluctuates between cycles but also within the cycle as it works together with Oestradiol, as Oestradiol goes up during the first half of your cycle, it suppresses FSH so you can get a lower reading if you take the test later but the accurate results for me is on CD 2 cos I O early. In fact my FSH is still high I was just trying to play around trying to go for bloods when my FSH reading was as lower as possible within that cycle. It's hard to say if acu/herbs are working or not. I will repeat my bloods next cycle just in case but it may as well be higher, you just never know. However, they also did my AMH which I cant really cheat (well, I did take tonnes of vitamin D which can artificially increase AMH but that's about it). I am also going for AFC and they will make the decision based on all of these tests. It's done now so I can only hope they will decide to offer us IVF.

This week is just so hard, I am really struggling at work cos I am so busy but yet I prioritise my TTC stuff (obviously!) and fail everywhere else, have to work late every day and will have to work this weekend to compensate. I am exhausted!

 

[Breaking Dawn]

Melly...Hopin the baby is ok. have you had any pain. It could just be bleeding as some women have this. Sending you positive vibes!

Briss.. it is difficult to manage ttc and work. I know where you coming from.