February Lovebugs of 2016!! 16 pink, 15 blue, 7 yellow

[CAx3]

I'll join the FB group once it is secret. I have too many nosey family members on FB

Haha I can totally relate!

 

[Quantea]

Hey mitchnorm and sausages, that's an interesting issue.

I have been thinking about it as well. I will be doing the NT measurements and the blood tests. There's an algorithm that combines all those tests along with your age and provides a risk ratio for abnormalities. If it's high enough, then they recommend amniocentesis. Or at least that's what they do where I'm from.

In reality however, the way the numbers add up make it so that everyone above the age of 35 is a candidate for amniocentesis based on age alone. The blood tests are still a good idea, since they can also detect a good number of non-genetic problems, such as neural tube defects. I'm close to that age, so I'm already thinking of the amniocentesis issue. I guess I'll keep sleeping on it until then...

(If I start getting too technical about the medical details, feel free to tell me to tone it down a bit.... I've entered the worry-wort phase, lol)

 

[writingislove]

Sad news to report on my end. My hcg level was about 8,000 on Wednesday and only up to 9,800 on Friday. My doctor's nurse called yesterday and said I'm likely to miscarry. I have an ultrasound on Monday just to see, but it's possibly a blighted ovum based on the gestational sac being empty at 5w4d, combined with the slow rise of my hcg.

 

[Jules8]

I'm so sorry writing. Sending prayers and good thoughts your way!

 

[GenYsuperlady]

Sad news to report on my end. My hcg level was about 8,000 on Wednesday and only up to 9,800 on Friday. My doctor's nurse called yesterday and said I'm likely to miscarry. I have an ultrasound on Monday just to see, but it's possibly a blighted ovum based on the gestational sac being empty at 5w4d, combined with the slow rise of my hcg.

So so sorry!!!

 

[Disneymom1129]

Sad news to report on my end. My hcg level was about 8,000 on Wednesday and only up to 9,800 on Friday. My doctor's nurse called yesterday and said I'm likely to miscarry. I have an ultrasound on Monday just to see, but it's possibly a blighted ovum based on the gestational sac being empty at 5w4d, combined with the slow rise of my hcg.

I am so sorry

 

[ajarvis]

So sorry writing.

 

[BrandiCanucks]

I'm so sorry, writing. Hope it's just a slow riser for you!

 

[dustergrl]

Sad news to report on my end. My hcg level was about 8,000 on Wednesday and only up to 9,800 on Friday. My doctor's nurse called yesterday and said I'm likely to miscarry. I have an ultrasound on Monday just to see, but it's possibly a blighted ovum based on the gestational sac being empty at 5w4d, combined with the slow rise of my hcg.

So sorry, writing. I can't imagine how heartbreaking that must be. Keeping fx it's just a slow rising number!

 

[mitchnorm]

Sad news to report on my end. My hcg level was about 8,000 on Wednesday and only up to 9,800 on Friday. My doctor's nurse called yesterday and said I'm likely to miscarry. I have an ultrasound on Monday just to see, but it's possibly a blighted ovum based on the gestational sac being empty at 5w4d, combined with the slow rise of my hcg.

So sorry writing x x xx

Hey mitchnorm and sausages, that's an interesting issue.

I have been thinking about it as well. I will be doing the NT measurements and the blood tests. There's an algorithm that combines all those tests along with your age and provides a risk ratio for abnormalities. If it's high enough, then they recommend amniocentesis. Or at least that's what they do where I'm from.

In reality however, the way the numbers add up make it so that everyone above the age of 35 is a candidate for amniocentesis based on age alone. The blood tests are still a good idea, since they can also detect a good number of non-genetic problems, such as neural tube defects. I'm close to that age, so I'm already thinking of the amniocentesis issue. I guess I'll keep sleeping on it until then...

(If I start getting too technical about the medical details, feel free to tell me to tone it down a bit.... I've entered the worry-wort phase, lol)

No worries Quantea....I have a scientific background in so very interested in all the analysing ha ha. Yeah the NT and triple test is a good screening tool but does suffer from false positives and a higher rate of amnios....like 4-5% and higher in my age group. The harmony and guess the others although are still screening tools, have a much more accurate detection rate. I am thinking of the standard NT and bloods , await result and maybe then more testing if positive to try and avoid amnio if possible. Really not sure yet x

 

[gardenofedens]

A FB group sounds awesome Brandi It'll be one of those groups that don't get posted on my friends newsfeeds right? I'm guessing so but just checking because I'm paranoid about the cat being let out of the bag before I'm ready to announce

Hi GoE! Weren't we due with our daughters at the same time? Spud is an August 2012 baby although I know your lady made an early appearance!

Yep! I recognized your handle and your daughter's name in your signature, lol. What a small world! I had another baby in between my August 2012 and this one though, lol, so love bug will be baby number THREE! Omg

 

[gardenofedens]

I sent you a friend request Brandi. I'm much better with fb lately than bnb. I better wait to join until it's secret though since I haven't even told my dh yet! telling him next weekend!

 

[sausages]

Oh writing I'm so sorry. Please let us know how your ultrasound goes. Xx

I also don't mind the technical details, I research things to the far end of a fart myself, lol!

I spoke to DH last night and he has agreed for us to get the panorama NIPT testing. So I'm going to call MUMS in Solihull and book in Monday as it can be done from 9 weeks. I'm nervous about spending the money but we would get their NT anyway which is £175 so either way we're paying. Most importantly I trust them. The NHS system failed us with our first baby, so I just can't rely on that alone.

 

[Feanorous]

Sad news to report on my end. My hcg level was about 8,000 on Wednesday and only up to 9,800 on Friday. My doctor's nurse called yesterday and said I'm likely to miscarry. I have an ultrasound on Monday just to see, but it's possibly a blighted ovum based on the gestational sac being empty at 5w4d, combined with the slow rise of my hcg.

Really sorry to hear this hun
Hope its just a slow riser and on Monday your baby is right there for all to see!

xx

 

[millyr75]

Gosh, the whole question of terminating or not is such a personal thing. I would never judge anyone for choosing one way or the other.

For me, I will have full testing. If my NT comes back high risk I will pay for the harmony/panorama test as it gives greater accuracy. If THAT also comes back high risk I'll have an amniocentesis. I would need to know for certain before I could make any decisions and amnio is the only sure way.

Sausages, the harmony/panorama test (NIPT) is 99.8% accurate. I had it done with my second pregnancy after my NT scan and bloods came back with a 1:44 risk of Downs. I chose to have it due to the zero risk of it possibly causing a miscarriage and it's accuracy is actually higher than amniocentesis. As advised by my obstetrician with my last pregnancy that ended as a MMC, there is no need for the NT studies if you choose to have the NIPT done. So as I'm a high risk patient due to my age and past history, I'll be going straight for the NIPT this time round.

 

[anti]

I've been MIA for a few days, the exhaustion is just too much for me at the moment. I'm really struggling to keep up with everyday life at the moment.

 

[BrandiCanucks]

I'm paranoid something is wrong again. Since my ultrasound, I've had zero nausea. I can drink water again, I can eat, I can look at food...nothing's been there. And since baby's heartrate was low for 6w4d and my family started attacking me again yesterday (this time, after my mother sent me a guilt trip text because I wasn't coming to the birthday parties, I told her I had a bunch of job interviews that afternoon, which I did, she ended up sending my 22 year old brother to attack me too).

With all the stress, no nausea anymore, and the low heartbeat, I'm just worried something is wrong and my next ultrasound won't go so well.

 

[pinkpassion]

Hi ladies, been mia this week as had friend's from out of state in, so been incredibly busy!!!!
Things are going pretty good, I don't feel pregnant except extreme exhaustion and certain ells sending me in to nausea, but otherwise I feel pretty normal, definitely not like my pregnancy with my dd.. I do worry sometimes if baby is ok, I pulled the doppler out last night and been staring at it, contimplating using it, but I think ive decided to use it next Tuesday before I go in for my next ultrasound , that way if I don't find it I won't be panicked for long before seeing what's going on on ultrasound .... I still worry because baby was measuring 3 days behind , although had a strong heartbeat , but that's what happened with our missed miscarriage and I wasn't very sick with that one either , kind of like this one, that's why I'm worried about this baby...

Also with my dd I had stretching and cramping pretty constantly through the first tri and not much with my mmc, I'm not having much again this time, so that's kind of stressful too... honestly this past week I haven't had much time to remember I'm pregnany I've been so busy , but now it's quiet and I have time to worry ... o well only a week and two more days to find out!!!!

 

[twinmummy06]

A FB group would be great. This thread moves way too fast for me too keep up lol.

Ive pm'ed you Brandi.

 

[sausages]

Gosh, the whole question of terminating or not is such a personal thing. I would never judge anyone for choosing one way or the other.

For me, I will have full testing. If my NT comes back high risk I will pay for the harmony/panorama test as it gives greater accuracy. If THAT also comes back high risk I'll have an amniocentesis. I would need to know for certain before I could make any decisions and amnio is the only sure way.

Sausages, the harmony/panorama test (NIPT) is 99.8% accurate. I had it done with my second pregnancy after my NT scan and bloods came back with a 1:44 risk of Downs. I chose to have it due to the zero risk of it possibly causing a miscarriage and it's accuracy is actually higher than amniocentesis. As advised by my obstetrician with my last pregnancy that ended as a MMC, there is no need for the NT studies if you choose to have the NIPT done. So as I'm a high risk patient due to my age and past history, I'll be going straight for the NIPT this time round.

I didn't realise that - I thought you would still have to go for an amnio. That's even better then! I am booking my NIPT on Monday.