Has anyone you know made up a pregnancy? update on page 4

[Jessicahide]

She's already lied to you because you cannot take warfarin in pregnancy. It has to be fragmin or clexane injection. I have APS and have to take fragmin but not in pregnancy would be warfarin

I know, I had to take wafrin after my ds3 was born and they make it clear do not get pregnant when you are on it as it causes really bad abnormalities... she also told me the mw took her bloods at her home... they don't, the mw also diagnosed she was at risk of blood clots, she cant... But, here is the key to all that, she has a grandfather who takes warfarin, so possibly said that for access purposes?!! ( I currently take clexaine..)

She also showed me her arm where the mw "took her bloods" it was on the side of her arm, and as she showed me it, she pinched it, this little bruise was the exact size of a pinch.... the hairs on the back of my neck stood on end at that point... I have had failed attempts at bloods being taken, and you get a big "fried egg" bruise, green and yellow, not a little pinch on the side of her arm....

Sorry gone off on one there... its so difficult to explain as a lot of what is going on is her body language, phrasing and such....

 

[IsabellaJayne]

She's already lied to you because you cannot take warfarin in pregnancy. It has to be fragmin or clexane injection. I have APS and have to take fragmin but not in pregnancy would be warfarin

I know, I had to take wafrin after my ds3 was born and they make it clear do not get pregnant when you are on it as it causes really bad abnormalities... she also told me the mw took her bloods at her home... they don't, the mw also diagnosed she was at risk of blood clots, she cant... But, here is the key to all that, she has a grandfather who takes warfarin, so possibly said that for access purposes?!! ( I currently take clexaine..)

She also showed me her arm where the mw "took her bloods" it was on the side of her arm, and as she showed me it, she pinched it, this little bruise was the exact size of a pinch.... the hairs on the back of my neck stood on end at that point... I have had failed attempts at bloods being taken, and you get a big "fried egg" bruise, green and yellow, not a little pinch on the side of her arm....

Sorry gone off on one there... its so difficult to explain as a lot of what is going on is her body language, phrasing and such....

She's definitely lying. Such a shame, sounds like she needs some serious help. It will all catch up with her. And if she is pregnant, I hope she isn't taking warfarin!

I saw you take your injection in the belly, you can also take it in the top of your thighs if you feel more comfortable with that

 

[Tasha]

Firstly I'm sorry for your loss I've had two stillbirths and multiple miscarriages, and pregnancy after loss is tough emotionally without all of this on top.

Some mw's do take bloods at home but clotting disorders aren't tested for at booking in or whatever. Warfarin certainly can't be taken in pregnancy, as you know. I'm also on clexane.

I'd talk to her Mum but rather than accusing of lying (Mum may get protective), talk to her about your concerns for her MH, tell her you're worried about her daughter and how the pregnancy/baby is affecting her. Ask if she is getting support etc.

 

[Jessicahide]

She's already lied to you because you cannot take warfarin in pregnancy. It has to be fragmin or clexane injection. I have APS and have to take fragmin but not in pregnancy would be warfarin

I know, I had to take wafrin after my ds3 was born and they make it clear do not get pregnant when you are on it as it causes really bad abnormalities... she also told me the mw took her bloods at her home... they don't, the mw also diagnosed she was at risk of blood clots, she cant... But, here is the key to all that, she has a grandfather who takes warfarin, so possibly said that for access purposes?!! ( I currently take clexaine..)

She also showed me her arm where the mw "took her bloods" it was on the side of her arm, and as she showed me it, she pinched it, this little bruise was the exact size of a pinch.... the hairs on the back of my neck stood on end at that point... I have had failed attempts at bloods being taken, and you get a big "fried egg" bruise, green and yellow, not a little pinch on the side of her arm....

Sorry gone off on one there... its so difficult to explain as a lot of what is going on is her body language, phrasing and such....

She's definitely lying. Such a shame, sounds like she needs some serious help. It will all catch up with her. And if she is pregnant, I hope she isn't taking warfarin!

I saw you take your injection in the belly, you can also take it in the top of your thighs if you feel more comfortable with that

I am good with them in the belly, got enough fat there to take the hit.... haaa!

 

[Jessicahide]

Firstly I'm sorry for your loss I've had two stillbirths and multiple miscarriages, and pregnancy after loss is tough emotionally without all of this on top.

Some mw's do take bloods at home but clotting disorders aren't tested for at booking in or whatever. Warfarin certainly can't be taken in pregnancy, as you know. I'm also on clexane.

I'd talk to her Mum but rather than accusing of lying (Mum may get protective), talk to her about your concerns for her MH, tell her you're worried about her daughter and how the pregnancy/baby is affecting her. Ask if she is getting support etc.

The midwife would have been the same one that came to my house... we live a few mins walk from each other, they give you the plastic bag thingy and ask you to go to the local health clinic to take the bloods, its a community midwife... I wouldn't dream of accusing her of lying, its too much of an assumption... I will be gentle with her mum, she is really a lovely woman and I don't really know what my friend has told her xx

I am so so sorry for the of your little ones xx its the worst thing in the world!!

 

[Jessicahide]

Oh that was another thing, the day before her scan she told me they wouldn't be able to do it as they couldn't take her bloods " No they wont do the scan until you have had your bloods taken..." Keep in mind I had just had my scan a few weeks before this, had my bloods taken 45 mins after my scan was finished....

 

[MemmaJ]

There's a few scenarios really... She's either completely lying, and isn't pregnant at all. Or she is pregnant but is completely exaggerating everything (that her mw failed her bloods, that she has to take warfarin) to make it all more dramatic and possibly get more attention. But if she has a family history of blood clots (which could be why her grandfather is on warfarin), then that possibly would actually make her high risk for clots... She may have just said warfarin because that's what her grandfather is on and she doesn't know any different.
Nothing excuses what she's saying about the baby though

I liked someone's idea to ask her about something that doesn't exist and see what she says... ;-)

 

[Googiepie]

Maybe her mom knows she's making it up since she ignored her once she started talking about her pregnancy? Like someone said, ask her about something that isn't routine in pregnancy and see what she says. I personally wouldn't tell her anything anymore regarding your pregnancy. Mention your concern for her to her mom but keep your distance.

 

[Jessicahide]

You have just said exactly what my husband has been saying.... I know you are both right... Xx

 

[DoodleDoo]

OH and I had issues with his ex girlfriend when we first started dating claiming that she was pregnant with his twins. Whether she was or not I cannot 100% determine but I would say it was very unlikely that she was. OH (who I believe) said they had always used a condom. She kept changing how far along in the pregnancy she supposedly was and, despite support, eventually told us that she had decided to terminate the pregnancy via pill at '12 weeks' which as far as I'm aware is not the practise in the UK.

I can understand how stressful it can be to have to deal with the doubt. OH's ex had suffered from mental issues from adolescence and we personally feel that the pregnancy claim was a cry for help. Fortunately, she seems to have found happiness in a new relationship; coincidentally she instantly got pregnant with her new boyfriend weeks after her termination.

I think the suggestions that the other ladies have made are very wise. If this lady is truly pregnant and having serious concerns about it an accusation could send her over the edge. Talking to her mother might be the best option but remember that if you ever feel threatened she is ultimately not your responsibility. If she already has two children their welfare also needs to be considered. If she is unstable they may need support.

Hope it works out

 

[Mrs_Bump]

Agree with others here, I'd speak to her mum. Warfarin is defo not allowed in pregnancy, I'm on fragmin and aspirin because of family history of strokes. Family history can be sufficient for blood thinners in pregnancy on it's own if it's strong enough, but not warfarin, and warfarin is pills and fragmin and the other one are injections so I don't really understand how you could be confused. Ultimately though I think it would be best to step back as long as you've spoken to her mum.

 

[Jessicahide]

Thanks girls, I will be talking to her mum as soon as I can catch her on her own, I usually see her once a week... I didn't see my friend today and I feel really calm and unstressed, cant help but see a connection xxx

Thanks for all the support, I will keep you updated with what her mum says xx

 

[Abbey08]

Yikes she sounds creepy!! I have known a couple people in my life who would make something like this up. 1 of them who knew my hubby and I were TTC would always tell me she "might be pregnant" little did we know her and her husband weren't even sleeping together and split up shortly after (she is a total pathological liar). I would definitely stear clear of her!!

 

[Jessicahide]

OK so small update..... I have not seen her mum at all completely stopped coming to the school, but people are starting to get suspicious of her asking me why she has no bump at all..... Why none of her stories add up. He has avoided me for weeks now, I spoke to her a couple if weeks ago she called me on the phone to ask how my scan went. She said she had been sent to see the MW as she has not felt baby move, then the MW couldn't tell if the HB was fast or slow and she said she couldn't hear it at all...... MW told her she couldn't tell her if baby was OK but she can wait until her scan..... (8th July, this happened nearly 3 weeks ago now) so I have all but been removed from the situation by her...

 

[brokenoven]

Thank you, this woman is 30! I am going to mention it to her mum, she "threw her scan PIC in the bin" she keeps saying things to me like " oh your pregnancy is going so quickly...." She is supposed to be a few weeks behind me. I have a bump, she looks the same as she did.... So much just doesn't add up, and when she talks its always dramatic.... And makes me feel creepy...

Having no bump means nothing. I am 24 weeks and very pregnant, and I have. No bump. I am very thin as well so it can happen.

 

[Jessicahide]

Thank you, this woman is 30! I am going to mention it to her mum, she "threw her scan PIC in the bin" she keeps saying things to me like " oh your pregnancy is going so quickly...." She is supposed to be a few weeks behind me. I have a bump, she looks the same as she did.... So much just doesn't add up, and when she talks its always dramatic.... And makes me feel creepy...

Having no bump means nothing. I am 24 weeks and very pregnant, and I have. No bump. I am very thin as well so it can happen.

How many have you had?! This is not the only reason, all the lies that she has told and been telling far before that point....

 

[mummy2o]

Thank you, this woman is 30! I am going to mention it to her mum, she "threw her scan PIC in the bin" she keeps saying things to me like " oh your pregnancy is going so quickly...." She is supposed to be a few weeks behind me. I have a bump, she looks the same as she did.... So much just doesn't add up, and when she talks its always dramatic.... And makes me feel creepy...

Having no bump means nothing. I am 24 weeks and very pregnant, and I have. No bump. I am very thin as well so it can happen.

How many have you had?! This is not the only reason, all the lies that she has told and been telling far before that point....

Some people just never get a bump. One of my friends who is stick thin has 3 kids and never looked pregnant in any of them. Her midwife was always moaning on about how she should gain weight and the annoying thing was she was eating everything in sight and making me gain weight just looking at it!

 

[mum140381]

mw wound not just send her on her way with no movements and heart beat inconstant very odd

 

[Jessicahide]

I have seen her pregnant before she gets a bump, but like I said the bump was not the issue it's all the lies.....

 

[mummy2o]

I have seen her pregnant before she gets a bump, but like I said the bump was not the issue it's all the lies.....

I suspect she is lying also. But I also do know the care system can fail people at times. I'm one of them and lost my son Christmas eve due to it. I seriously was trying to get help from doctors, midwifes and even went to the ER twice, early pregnancy unit and they all sent me on my way, saying there was nothing wrong with me. Turns out I had sepsis, so to say I'm nervous this pregnancy is a bit of a understatement. But I'm honestly mainly over my loss and like a positive outlook on life in general.

She won't be able to hide not being pregnant forever though. As well as also needing psychiatric help, good luck with that as she probably doesn't see herself as ill. She's probably finding a way to naturally end her 'pregnancy' and her saying that about the midwife is probably ok in her mind.