I would really like to try both these products but have no clue how to bring up the subject with my squeamish other half. I think he would find it gross, weird, and think i was 'obsessing' about ttc. He seems to think it will just happen without us even trying, well clearly after a yr and a half of ntnp its not going to!! Anyone using eith of these? How did u approach the subject, especially with the men who are firmly in ntnp camp..?? Thanks ladies!