How to shorten follicular phase

[anniepie]

From everything I've read about long FP's, it's not considered a problem. It's really hard- there's so much information available to us these days with the internet, and I'm not convinced it's always a good thing to have so much information. There's no control of what's put out there, and of course, because we're so desperate for that BFP, we'll read into every possible reason why we're not getting our BFP's. But, in reality, it may just be that it hasn't happened yet. I see you're on cycle 7- while a long time TTC, it's not in the bracket of needing to be concerned yet. But for me, if I start to feel there's something going wrong that's preventing me conceiving, I think I want to go get checked out by a specialist so I know I'm doing the right thing rather than going by what I'm reading on the internet. I don't want to be messing around with stuff where for all I know, I might be doing the oposite of what's needed for me! This is one of the reasons I didn't stay on Agnus Castus...

I've the added curse of a LP which is on the short side (10 days), but they say it should JUST be long enough, so I'm just holding out at the moment...

Good luck!

 

[anniepie]

I've just had a quick squiz at your charts too, and while your last cycle you O'd cd20, your previous 2 cycles you O'd cd17 which is really not late at all!! We all expect we should O cd14 cos that's what we learn in school, but it's just a population average!

 

[Jazavac]

You have NEVER read that? Have you only been trying for 4 months? When you have tried almost a year, you have read and heard it all. Especially when you are someone who lives, breathes, and sleeps fertility.

This is taken from the link below.

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=54381

I have never heard of that and I don't care about your links either. I have my own equivalent of Dr Amos and all my questions get answered there.

However, if you are not comfortable hearing opinions that are different than your own, you might want to leave a public forum.

Eggs do not rot because you ovulate later in a cycle. No, we're not talking about cycles that last three months or longer. In those cases, one should seek professional help anyway.

I only speak of things I know at least something about. So I will continue doing so. And then, like I said, if you don't like it, well, tough luck.

Good luck on your journey, anyway.

 

[maggiepie11]

sounds like plenty of people have told you you don't need to shorten your FP by now, but i wanted to agree with them.

however, clomid will make you ovulate earlier if you already ovulate on your own. my doctor prescribed clomid as i ovulate on CD18-21 and my cycle runs from 29-31 days. my LP is usually about 11 days, which is borderline hence the clomid to make me ovulate earlier.

if you were only worried about a short LP, which you do not have, vitamin B6 can extend your whole cycle to lengthen a luteal phase. however it does not usually do so by moving ovulation up.

good luck!

 

[Babee_Bugs]

Ive been trying for just over 2 years... and i must admit ive never heard anyone or seen anything that suggest later ovulation means less likely to concieve.

Ive seen some women on this very same forum, with PCOS and therefore there cycles can be totally wacky and have 60+ day cycles, majority of them will ovulate around CD40-50 and those very same people have become pregnant!! and still are... So maybies there is some evidence to suggest later ovulation is of no good... but there is also some pretty good evidence that it can happen!!

My cycles range from 29-32day long and i can ovulate around CD16-CD19.... like i say ive been trying for 26 months now, and im trying SOY for this cycle, not to shorten my Ov day but to hopefully get me that BFP, i have heard SOY helping to Bring OV day sooner than normal... Maybies try this???

 

[lisap2008]

My DH and I have been TTC my 5th and his first for 3 years and I have heard the talk about long FP meaning poor over cooked eggs but I dont buy it because my first 3 were conceived on long cycles, ovulated around cd 20 and they are all healthy girls.
however I do understand your desire for a shorter cycle. you could ask for clomid or femara. but I would not chance the possibily of vitex or soy messing your normal ovulation up like it did to me.

 

[Miaowzen]

The problem with what Dr Amos said is that he drew on a correlation relationship and not a causative one. This is a logical problem you often see in science.

So what he is saying is long cycles are often correlated with poor egg quality.
It cannot be derived from that that poor egg quality is caused by long cycles, nor can it be derived from his statement that long cycles cause poor egg quality.

So the best way to look at his statement then, is what is the best thing I can do to improve my egg quality? Eating more nutritious foods, avoiding sugar and refined carbohydrates, taking appropriate herbs and bee products, going to a yoga class... These are all ways of improving egg quality and if the correlation holds may also shorten the follicular phase, but there is no guarantees. Even correlations are just a statistical average.

So I think, by all means do whatever you can to improve your egg quality, as for your wait in FP which is a little boring I agree, you just need to experiment on yourself a bit and see if anything shortens your cycle.

 

[rdy4number2]

I'm just gonna relax about it. I'm young and I've had one child before. Surely I can do it again! Just impatient I suppose. Thanks for the kind posts.

 

[jaydee79]

Where can i get vitex

im taking agnus castus known as vitex which i buy from holland and barrett which is a health shop im on 1600MG DAILY pop along to ya nearest health shop and ask for vitex commonly known as agnus castus

 

[jaydee79]

i wish it was so simple to shorten the folllicular phase i also suspected i might ovulate CD19 so wish there was something to shorten it

 

[rdy4number2]

i wish it was so simple to shorten the folllicular phase i also suspected i might ovulate CD19 so wish there was something to shorten it

Have you heard vitex will? I'm terrified of making my cycle even worse. If it works, please let me know. I so hope it works for you. Best of luck.

 

[Coconuts]

Rdy4, I'm on my second month of Vitex / Agnus Cactus. My O is usually around CD22/24! Last month vitex really stabilised my temps. I had a better period, cleaner, less spotting before and after and I felt more action with my left ovary and uterus around O when usually I don't feel a thing.
Like Anniepie, I have a short LP. and with vitex I added on another day
However I will say this. Last month's O was CD28! and I was hoping vitex would make it earlier
Vitex is like a tonic for the whole system and is gentle having a cumulative effect so I'm continuing to take it this month too. A lot of good came out of my cycle with AC even if O was later. I hoping things settle down even more this month and O comes a bit earlier. I guess we'll wait and see. They say it can take up to three months for it to start to take effect.

 

[Twinkie210]

I ovulate on average around CD 21 and I only have a 11 day LP and usually spot between 9-11 dpo. I have been TTC since February. I was able to conceive with ovulation of CD 21, but it ended in MC (blighted ovum). I have my yearly exam on the 18th and I am taking all of my charts with me to get my Dr.'s opinion. I am sure he is going to say if I conceived once I will again, but I am asking anyway, because I feel like I already have two strikes against me with late O and a LP on the shorter side.

 

[Coconuts]

Twinkie, I'm sorry for your loss
I don't think when you O affects conception. I have an LP of 10 days on average but it seems to be lengthening with Agnus Castus. Short LP's aren't great for two reasons; 10 days seems to be boarderline and many women get pg with a 10 days LP but less than that eggy doesn't have time to implant before AF arrives. Your little eggy implanted with your 11 days so that's not something to worry about. The second thing I find very interesting, short LPs are linked to having low progesterone which is needed to maintain a healthy pregnancy. Talk to your Doc about progesterone supplements maybe This may not be the case for you either and maybe your pregnancy ended in m/c because of any one of the reasons why our (healthy) bodies choose to end the pregnancy.

 

[Twinkie210]

Twinkie, I'm sorry for your loss
I don't think when you O affects conception. I have an LP of 10 days on average but it seems to be lengthening with Agnus Castus. Short LP's aren't great for two reasons; 10 days seems to be boarderline and many women get pg with a 10 days LP but less than that eggy doesn't have time to implant before AF arrives. Your little eggy implanted with your 11 days so that's not something to worry about. The second thing I find very interesting, short LPs are linked to having low progesterone which is needed to maintain a healthy pregnancy. Talk to your Doc about progesterone supplements maybe This may not be the case for you either and maybe your pregnancy ended in m/c because of any one of the reasons why our (healthy) bodies choose to end the pregnancy.

Thanks I had low progesterone with the pregnancy I MC, and was on supplements, but like I said it was a blighted ovum, so it was a matter of time before I MC anyway. I am definately going to ask him about progesterone supplements, since I always spot anyway and that is a sign of low progesterone.

 

[Coconuts]

Good luck

 

[sweetmere]

You heard nonsense.

I know this is an old post, but you're the one speaking nonsense. I can't stand it when people spread misinformation. You cannot 100% say it doesn't cause a poor quality egg, and more studies are being done on it currently.

Late ovulation is now thought to cause a weaker ovulation in many women, and actually has been shown to play a part in RPL.

Also, people would probably take you more seriously if you weren't so rude. Your responses are awful.