I really need your help please

[dancing P]

Hi ladies

We had finally got sleep training down for a good month where I would put her down she would roll around for a bit then fall asleep but for the last week as soon as I put her in her cot she screams! I have tried everything and nothing is working! I disagree with with cry it out method but even tried that and she just cries hysterically!
She goes for her first nap about 3 and a half hours after she wakes and she's 8 months old
Any advise would be greatly appreciated
X

 

[Tryingbabyno1]

Stalking, my 8 month old is doing the same, an when she does go to sleep she wakes up crying every hour or 2 x

 

[dancing P]

Ah glad it's not just me, she was always a great napper but I have to rock her now just so she can sleep x

 

[MindUtopia]

I found 8-10 months was just a really difficult time. The unfortunate truth is babies are always changing, so once you find something that works well, it's going to eventually not work as well. You might just have to experiment and find something else that does. Is she right around the point of crawling/standing/cruising? I found this made our otherwise easy bedtimes really challenging as when our daughter used to just happily go to sleep, she suddenly wanted to get up, crawl, stand, walk, etc. everything but sleep. It just took patience to wait it out until things settled down about 2 months later, plus getting a bit more creative with what we did to settle her down to being sleepy (for us, using a rocking chair to rock her to being drowsy and also putting her to sleep on her tummy worked, I should say though that she was 10 months and had been sleeping on her side since birth, so I felt comfortable with doing that then, I wouldn't recommend tummy sleeping for young babies for obvious reasons). Just try a few new things and see if they work. You might be surprised by what does work and it might just help things along for the next couple months until it gets easier again.

 

[dancing P]

Thank u yes she had just figured out how to get on all fours and move backwards so she is constantly doing that! Hopefully she will grow out if it I'm a few months thanks for the reply. X

 

[meli1981]

I agree...once they start moving more their sleep def gets disrupted...

 

[Mrs.iwnamkabb]

I'm right there with you girls! My LO (7 1/2 months old) is crawling now, and pulling himself to standing, so what used to be easy bedtimes is now hard because he can get up and move around. He's just too busy to sleep. Not to mention the 1 or 3 am wake up call for a bottle.

Reading some of the threads and posts though are starting to make me wonder if he necessarily "hungry" or just needing comfort at night.

He slept through the night from 8 weeks till he reached 7 months old and started teething. He got an ear infection and that was the start of the night wakings. Because I knew he was uncomfortable I'd make him a bottle and rock him to sleep again. But as it started happening every night, I was tired and just started bringing him to bed with me with a bottle when he would wake up Which we have never done before but I needed the extra sleep.. So now, here I am, looking for some advice too on how to handle the situation... because my OH is starting to lecture me about him being in the bed..
I kindly remind him, that he could wake up at 3am and rock him back to sleep or get up and deal with it how he feels he should, but since hes not.... well you get the point lol..

I think I'm going to try the 5 minute rule tonight. we'll see how that goes!

 

[meli1981]

I hear ya on the night feedings...my guy like i said is almost ten months..but still gets like three or four times for feedings! Say what?!

 

[dancing P]

It's so hard isn't it! What's the 5 min rule? Xxx

 

[Mrs.iwnamkabb]

I just read about it.. when they wake up fussing/crying... just wait it out 5 minutes to see if they soothe themselves back to sleep, if not, then go get them.. because in "some" cases, they might not be fully awake, and us (me )flying in the room to comfort when he cries only makes it worse

 

[Mrs.iwnamkabb]

my LO is a thumb sucker.. he never took a pacifier.. "he always sucked his thumb in utero too.. and it's such a cute bad habit I know.. but he sucks his thumb the exact same way my OH did when he was a baby, they say." Hooks his fingers over his nose.. lol..
anyways.. before he could move anywhere.. he would cry.. and find his thumb and go to sleep on his own.. I didn't even have to rock him or anything.. at 7:30pm (bedtime) i would just go lay him in his crib.. and he knew what to do..

But this teething thing has screwed it all up.. that's not to say it wouldn't have changed anyways.. but I'm so tired that when hes crying at 3am I go get him and take him to the spare bedroom and fall asleep with him in there for the last 2 hours of sleep I can get.. Hes getting used to it though.. and my OH is really firm about him not being in bed with us.. thats why I go to the spare bedroom lol..
I love sleeping next to my baby, but in the long run I think my OH is right, so I'm ready to try letting him try to soothe himself back to sleep.. if it doesnt work then of course I'll go get him and comfort him..

 

[Mrs.iwnamkabb]

meli- are you a stay at home mom or do you work?? how the heck do you get up at those hours if you work?? .. lol!! We're superhuman aren't we! lol

 

[special_kala]

8 months is around the age where they work out they can keep themselves awake which messes things around for a while. It gets better.

Do you have a routine for bedtime? Try switching it round a bit, so if its bath then milk try milk then bath.

 

[dancing P]

Ha I am the same!! I might try that too thank u xx

 

[MumToEva]

I read somewhere recently that 8 months is the age where babies start to learn to manipulate things to their own advantage (before that age they don't have the mental capacity to manipulate), so maybe that has something to do with it?

My son has always been easy an easy sleeper but he has started to resist nap times and bedtime recently. I tend to go in every few minutes and reposition him in the cot, put his dummy back in his mouth and then leave again, without saying anything to him - might sound mean, but I made a rod for my own back with my daughter and it was a very hard habit to break, so I'm taking a harder line this time.

 

[CordeliaJ]

Have you got the wonder weeks app? There's a developmental leap around this time, well there is basically one every other month, but as someone else mentioned, they are changing and growing all the time. You just have to wait it out, if LO was a good sleeper before, then she will be again. All these changes are hard for them, you just have to be there for them. Don't leave her crying longer than 5 mins because she won't understand what's going on. Babies do not 'manipulate', all they do is know that if they cry mummy will come which is instinct, not manipulation, it's a perfectly natural thing for them to do. Also, babies almost always need their first nap 1.5-2hrs after they wake up. It's usually the shortest gap between sleeps.
My LO Oliver, is 8 months. He wakes up at 6am, goes back to sleep 7:30am-9am. Has breakfast, goes for his first morning nap at 10:30/11am. Wakes up at 12:30pm, lunch at 1pm. Afternoon nap is 3pm-4:30pm, dinner at 5:30pm and bed at 7pm. Like any baby he fights sleep and naps during growth spurts and leaps, or if he's teething, or having a bad day, but on the whole he goes down pretty easily (still wakes 1/2 times a night though, but that's for feeds as he refuses milk during the day). Not sure if that's any use to you, but hopefully it helps. x

 

[Mummyxofx2]

My 9 month old went through this recently started the 30 minute naps again and waking through the night before the time that was normal. I remember reading somewhere that when they go through these regressions is the best time to teach them something new. So we put her in her own room 4 night ago. Naps are back to 2 hours twice a day. First night she woke at 3 I did pu pd and she went back to sleep about 330 slept through until 630 second night woke up 430 my partner heard her first and got up and have her a bottle grrr ( no patience from him) 3rd night she woke at 530 once again he heard her first and have a bottle. Last night she woke at 5 I heard her first and left her for 10 and she went back to sleep until 630. Her routine is up at 630 first nap at 830-9 awake around 11 second nap at 230 awake at 430ish then bed for night at 8

 

[mercedybear]

"anyways.. before he could move anywhere.. he would cry.. and find his thumb and go to sleep on his own.. I didn't even have to rock him or anything.. at 7:30pm (bedtime) i would just go lay him in his crib.. and he knew what to do..

But this teething thing has screwed it all up.."

going through the same with my 7.5 month old, she used to self-settle at bedtime and go right to sleep easy-peasy, since teething it takes 40 mins to get her to sleep...I end up having to put her in a swing with soft music playing to get her to dose off, thats the only thing that works lately and I "feel guilty" that she relies on that to help. I now have to carry her (asleep) from her swing to her crib

 

[nicksi27]

Ive tried CIO it just doesnt work for us, Charlie just gets so distraught to the point that he starts coughing/choking/borking. The last few nights ive started to put charlie in his cot and when he starts crying ive laid him on our bed and he rolls around on there until he falls asleep then i transfer him. Its a lot more traumatic and i just dont think its healthy for a baby to feel that distraught tbh. When hes on our bed i dont talk to him or fuss him and im hoping that its at least teaching how to self soothe.

 

[meli1981]

meli- are you a stay at home mom or do you work?? how the heck do you get up at those hours if you work?? .. lol!! We're superhuman aren't we! lol

Haha! Im sahm...but dont have the luxary of staying in bed late cause ive got two other kiddos...one of whom is a three yo...i try to nap when the babies nap...but they dont always cooperate!