Incompetent Cervix - stitch/cerclage - threatened labour

Vaali your clock is ticking...not long now.

garrick your girls are beautiful.

I hope everyone is doing well keeping those babies cooking.

Afm. im just trying to get the hang of mothering three kids lol its a challenge along with being sleep deprived.
 
Hello everyone, i was here couple of years ago, i lost my son due to incompetent cervix.. but didnt know at the time, i had the stitch with my daughter, and she is a healthy 4yr old... i am now back as i have just had my bfp :) and going to see consultant soon for the sticth at 13 weeks... seems sooo far away

question for you... i did complete bed rest with megan, do you all do bedrest?? or moderate.... hope to get to know you all for the next 9months xxx
 
Hi everyone,

Sorry i've not been around. We've been a house of illness! Poppy had an ear infection, cue sleepless nights. And my OH has had a really bad tummy bug for the last five days, so my bed rest has had to go out the window as he's been quarantined to our bedroom, and i've been sleeping in the loft and looking after Poppy on my own - a real shock to the system after ten weeks of lying down and bed rest. I am EXHAUSTED!! And have sore hands from washing and sanitizing everything so much. I have never had so many dizzy spells and bad nights sleep. And to top it off, Poppy now has a temperature and bad cough, so has spent the last two nights in my temporary home in the loft, and we got three hours sleep last night. I am a zombie!

But luckily, it has made the last week fly by, and i am 28 weeks tommorow. YAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!! (if i had the energy, i would be running round the room naked, celebrating). I have a scan and FFN test on Thursday, so am hoping to get the go ahead to ease up on the bed rest and start going out more. I just feel like a weight has been lifted and i have my sense of humour back. It had been a stranger for the last two months.

I still worry about still birth or the cord getting damaged or hurting my baby. I wish i could stop worrying and start believing I might really have another child. I am slowly starting to plan decorating our spare room and buying Poppy a big bed so her cot can be used to the new LO. Lots to keep me busy!

Olga & Christiana - oh i so feel for you ladies. I was a gibbering teary mess ( as my husband and the lovely ladies of this forum will vouch) from when i had my stitch placed, up until, oohh, about a week ago! I was so worried about every twinge, pain, discharge etc. I did have two UTI's and then a Staph infection, but all were sorted out promptly and with no real problems, other than causing me to worry. I was a regular at my Day Assessment Unit, really just wanting reassurance from the doctors that what i was feeling was normal.

No doubt, those weeks from around 18 - 28 are the most anxiety ridden, as you just want to make it to viability, and then to the magic 28 weeks. My only advice is not to google too much (i had way to much time to google and worry myself) and try and give yourself lots of other positive things to think about, and small goals (ie, i'll just get to 24 weeks and then get myself a manicure as a treat etc). Also, do mention your anxieties and worries to your doctors - they can often put your thoughts into context, as there is nothing worse than just worrying on your own about things you're no expert in. Really, speak to them for reassurance. And before you know it, you'll be in your third trimester and baby clothes shopping...

Selena - Welcome! And great news on your BFP. I remember having a sense of dread with my second pregnancy after bed rest with my first. I have been on bed rest this time round, but not full rest - i lie down as much as i can, do no carrying or lifting etc, but do potter around the house. I had my stitch at 18 weeks both times, so this probably accounts for this. I think many people have their stitches as early as you will, and gone on to have practically normal pregnancies with little or no bed rest, just with monitoring to make sure their cervix and stitch are holding well. Hopefully you'll be the same.

Truthbtold = God i feel for you! Sleep deprivation is the worst. And i now look fondly back on the days when i had Poppy and i only had to look after her (and myself). I now know that this next LO will have to fit in with the already busy lives of everyone else, and my time will NEVER be my own. At least not for a good few years....

Larockera - hello lovely. Glad to see things are going nice and quietly for you (apart from the manic planning for your big trip!) Can you PM your address in Greece so i can send you a little something?

Everyone else - cooeee! I hope you're all well, and thanks again for all your support over the last few months, and the continued support given to all the other ladies who are on the forum. It really has been a Godsend.

XXXX
 
Hi everyone,

Sorry i've not been around. We've been a house of illness! Poppy had an ear infection, cue sleepless nights. And my OH has had a really bad tummy bug for the last five days, so my bed rest has had to go out the window as he's been quarantined to our bedroom, and i've been sleeping in the loft and looking after Poppy on my own - a real shock to the system after ten weeks of lying down and bed rest. I am EXHAUSTED!! And have sore hands from washing and sanitizing everything so much. I have never had so many dizzy spells and bad nights sleep. And to top it off, Poppy now has a temperature and bad cough, so has spent the last two nights in my temporary home in the loft, and we got three hours sleep last night. I am a zombie!

But luckily, it has made the last week fly by, and i am 28 weeks tommorow. YAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!! (if i had the energy, i would be running round the room naked, celebrating). I have a scan and FFN test on Thursday, so am hoping to get the go ahead to ease up on the bed rest and start going out more. I just feel like a weight has been lifted and i have my sense of humour back. It had been a stranger for the last two months.

I still worry about still birth or the cord getting damaged or hurting my baby. I wish i could stop worrying and start believing I might really have another child. I am slowly starting to plan decorating our spare room and buying Poppy a big bed so her cot can be used to the new LO. Lots to keep me busy!

Olga & Christiana - oh i so feel for you ladies. I was a gibbering teary mess ( as my husband and the lovely ladies of this forum will vouch) from when i had my stitch placed, up until, oohh, about a week ago! I was so worried about every twinge, pain, discharge etc. I did have two UTI's and then a Staph infection, but all were sorted out promptly and with no real problems, other than causing me to worry. I was a regular at my Day Assessment Unit, really just wanting reassurance from the doctors that what i was feeling was normal.

No doubt, those weeks from around 18 - 28 are the most anxiety ridden, as you just want to make it to viability, and then to the magic 28 weeks. My only advice is not to google too much (i had way to much time to google and worry myself) and try and give yourself lots of other positive things to think about, and small goals (ie, i'll just get to 24 weeks and then get myself a manicure as a treat etc). Also, do mention your anxieties and worries to your doctors - they can often put your thoughts into context, as there is nothing worse than just worrying on your own about things you're no expert in. Really, speak to them for reassurance. And before you know it, you'll be in your third trimester and baby clothes shopping...

Selena - Welcome! And great news on your BFP. I remember having a sense of dread with my second pregnancy after bed rest with my first. I have been on bed rest this time round, but not full rest - i lie down as much as i can, do no carrying or lifting etc, but do potter around the house. I had my stitch at 18 weeks both times, so this probably accounts for this. I think many people have their stitches as early as you will, and gone on to have practically normal pregnancies with little or no bed rest, just with monitoring to make sure their cervix and stitch are holding well. Hopefully you'll be the same.

Truthbtold = God i feel for you! Sleep deprivation is the worst. And i now look fondly back on the days when i had Poppy and i only had to look after her (and myself). I now know that this next LO will have to fit in with the already busy lives of everyone else, and my time will NEVER be my own. At least not for a good few years....

Larockera - hello lovely. Glad to see things are going nice and quietly for you (apart from the manic planning for your big trip!) Can you PM your address in Greece so i can send you a little something?

Everyone else - cooeee! I hope you're all well, and thanks again for all your support over the last few months, and the continued support given to all the other ladies who are on the forum. It really has been a Godsend.

XXXX

sounds like a house of fun... congrats on getting to 28weeks let the fun time begin... im worried as last pregnancy i had no living child so was on bedrest all the time, i had my stitch with megan at 18 weeks too... this time i have a hyper 4 yr old and worried i cant manage.... :cry:

im over weight too so worried that will affect the stich hence need of bed rest but im not sure xx
 
Kate- you're a sweetie! :kiss: Of course I can send you my address, although of course you don't have to send anything. I'd like to do the same so please send me yours! And... :happydance::happydance::happydance: for 28 weeks. This is when I took my big breath too, you'll see how time flies from now on! Time for some serious baby-shopping, sista!

Selina- Hi hon, so sorry for your previous loss. :cry: But huge congrats on your new pregnancy. :flower: I had an elective cerclage at 13+3 and even though I wasn't told to go on bed rest, I was told to take it easy. I work from home so put my feet up as much as I could, no house-cleaning, no lifting, I was allowed some moderate walking, about 10-15 minutes, and was on pelvic rest. Lots of water and keeping an eye for infections are of great importance. It'll all be fine.:thumbup:
 
Kate-Heyheyheeeyyy and thanks so much for the understanding!!!!I feel i must be the most annoying person in the whole wide world for my doctor but I DONT CARE!!!I keep calling him with little stupid questions...i think he'll be just a relieved as i am when we finally have our lo!!! YAYAYAYAYYAYAYAY for reaching this huge milestone!!My DH and I talk about the 28 week milestone constantly!! Make it to 22 (next scan-growth scan) then to 28 (wowwowoouuuouououhoooooo) then 32 and then we'll be almost there!!! Yeap i know, it sounds a bit like when it's tuesday and you're thinking "hey wednesday tomorrow, thursday after that will be so close to friday..yayayya it s the weekend already" but it helps us pull through!!!
Your house as selina said does sound a bit "crazy" at the moment but it's good practice i guess! I hope you hubby is better soon and so is Poppy. Have fun shopping hun!!!

Selina- hi and welcome! I m so sorry you had to go through this hard and horrible time with your little angel but still..congratulations on your new pg! I had my cerclage put in at 17w4d and i am currently 19w2d so quite recently. I was however on bed rest since 12w4d because of unrelated bleeding and the doc has ordered me to stay in bed until at least week 22, we 'll re talk about it then! I am allowed to walk around the house (like to get from bed to living room and bathroom), stand up long enough to make myself a quick snack, but generally that's about it. I understand how you feel, especially with your daughter around too as i too have a 20 month old son who doesnt and cant understand why mummy is constantly in bed and cant pick him up or play with him. It was harder in the beginning but the way i see it there's not much i can do about it...if i want my baby safe and sound in june i need to do it. My son has kind of come to terms with me not being able to do much and being as he is very young still he will sometimes say things like "daddy let's go, dont want to stay with mum" that break my heart but i know he know i love him and i know he loves me too and once our baby is here he will forget all about it and go back to being a perfect mummy's little boy!!! I think it might be better off for you as your daughter is much older and can understand more. As for whether you ll have to be on bedrest...maybe not...i had previous issues so i m not sure bedrest is because of the stitch plus 13 week is very early...so i guess you might just have to take it easy!!!

QUICK QUESTION ladies: after my appointment yesterday (i had an abdominal as well as a transvaginal us done) i noticed a little (like a small dot) red blood on the tp this afternoon. Do you think i should be worried? Called me doc (of course!) but he doesnt seems worried. What do you think?
 
Doc appointment today ended in a trip to the hospital for a higher-resolution ultrasound, babe is healthy and even measuring a few days ahead, but my cervix is already shortened to about 1.9cm even with a trans-abdominal shirodkar in place...18w 2d today, and it looks like I'm gonna be in bed for the duration. I'm heartbroken, still 6 weeks to viability, feels like an eternity.
 
Christiana- I'd think that your cervix may have gotten a teeny weeny irritated by the TVU. Sounds like an erosion. Monitor it for a while, although I'm pretty sure it'll be gone next time you log on here.

HStein - sorry to hear your cervix has been shortening, hon. :( However, this is why you got the stitch is in there. There are many ladies here with inspiring stories that went full-term thanks to the stitch. Full bed rest is not easy, but knowing it keeps your baby safe is quite reassuring. You'll have reached viability-and beyond- before you know it.
 
Well, as usual I am away for a few days and there are 5new pages and a whole bunch of queries and concerns that I feel as though I'll never catch up with, nor be able to answer without missing someone out :( Sorry in advance if I do miss anyone - not intentional, just lots of posts and very limited to time to scan and answer.

Firstly, Garrick hun congratulations on the safe arrival of Kendall - she is a beauty!!! :hugs: Hope you are ok, recovering well and coping with the sleepless nights. I think we all forget how hard those first few months are until we're back there again. Even tho our babies are so wanted, it doesn't make the sleep deprivation any easier to bear necessarily ;) like Truth and Susie, make sure to take good care of yourself too whilst you recover from the pregnancy and birth hun. You are just as important now as you were when you were carrying lo sweetie :hugs:

Kate - congrats on getting to 28wks chick, brilliant news and knew you could do it! Sorry you're not getting much rest tho - cant think of anything worse than the dreaded stomach bug, and I like you wash my hands til they're raw when one of us has it. I do anything possible to avoid it passing from one to the other. As for night time coughing, my eldest son gets a tickly, persistent night time cough with every cold and it's miserable :(

We too have these spells of illness when everyone gets everything all at once - I spend 3 exhausting wks moving between bedrooms, mopping fevered brows and daydreaming more often thanusual about my 'Caribbean island' (a fantasy place I visit in my head when the going gets tough. It involves sun loungers, an endless supply of cocktails and is strictly child free lol) Hope lo is feeling better soon, and you get your much needed rest again :hugs:

I can't believe there are so many new babies here in such a short space of time..........just serves to make me even more broody lol (if that were possible). Well done for beating IC ladies! Xxx

Olga - your sensations, aches and pains are all very typical after stitch hun. As you saw from the TVU these tightenings were not having any effect on your cervix, and are unlikely to given that they are not regular, painful or strong enough.

As for infection, all pregnant ladies are at risk from infection, but an infection causing ptl is extremely rare in women with a closed cervix. Your cervix is closed, has a stitch and is reasonably long, so the risks that any of these 'bugs' track into your uterus is extremely unlikely. Often infections are secondary to dilation, and only cause problems once the cervix has changed, the plug is gone and there is dilation. I had a symptomatic BV with the twins and had it for weeks before it was picked up and treated. This was at 21wks, and it was likely there from early on. It caused no problems for me despite this because my cervix was tightly closed.

BV is still a 'chicken and egg' infection, no one is certain if it can cause ptl, or if it is secondary to it and only tracks upwards after ptl - it is thought likely that it is secondary however. Lots of pregnant women have it, and don't realise but most progress without problems to term. I am certain you will be fine, and are in a better position than most because you are being monitored so closely. Have you asked about the green discharge since you last posted? It might be worth getting checked out, but most of the time these things are something and nothing sweet. Given your previously bad experience tho, it is totally understandable that this is worrying you, and always worth a check up.

Screening wise, if you can get regular scans then ask for them - if nothing more than to offer you reassurance. Are there plans to give you more swabs? I had them done routinely at 21wks, but wasn't offered them after that. I know it's hard to relax, but for what it's worth, I think that At the moment things are looking good for you hun :hugs: xxx

Vaali - yey, it's out!!! Here's to another 'full termer' :hugs:

Hope everyone else is ok, and sorry if I've missed any specific posts. Please write again putting my name at the top if you need me to answer any queries - I feel bad for not contributing in the last few days so don't hesitate to yell out if you need me or any of the other ladies for that matter :hugs: xxx

PS - new ladies and early second tri ladies Selina, Christiana, Olga, Hstein would you mind posting just your number of weeks, due date and stitch type, week placed etc in a seperate post? It helps to learn the basic facts about each lady here so that when posting I've got a brief reminder to hand. Thanks :)
 
Lizzie, I'm 18 weeks, due June 25th and have a trans-abdominal shirodkar (permanent) that was placed during my last pregnancy in 2005, I believe I was 14 weeks into that pregnancy at time of surgery.
 
lol.. ok we are still here hanging around together:happydance: wanna know what else is happening? we are eating & sleeping all day & gaining more weight to the level one could just burst out at any point:haha:
Boyyyy! its time you need to do some mental preparation, i know its all cozy inside though:kiss:!..
Kate celebration time:cake: yayyyyy! you guys made it to 28w there!!:happydance:. Believe me bud, this baby shopping will give you lots of confidence & you will start enjoying this prego everyday starting from now on..:thumbup: (i did my shopping @30w..)
Larock 33w & moving to Greece.. awesome!!!:happydance: way to go buddy..!!!
Garrick omg! lovely pics there!! your girls are lovely!!:hugs:
Olga, Christiana Hope you guys are well & bubs kicking harder by the day..
Selina Grats on your bfp:thumbup: & welcome back! Allow me to say it is always wise to take much rest as possible with this IC & more so till you get your stitch in. No abdominal muscle excertion, no lifting & no straining on stools in particular. Good you are gonna be getting the prophylactic cerclage this time & it will defo do its work!
Hstein do not worry hon.. 1.9 is still a good length to hold the bub till term:thumbup: im sure the shirodkar will do it work. Sorry im not fully remembering your story, is this your first bean you are taking to this 18w?
Lizzie thanks again for the constant support.. what an angel you are!!:hugs:
Hope helen, MA are doing great with their LOs..
APs been a while bud, no noise from you?..
May we all bake it & make it to term sweets:flower: (ya! my monkey boy took it really serious though..:blush:)
 
Lizzie-hey and thanks so much for trying to consider all our questions!!i am 19w3d today, due 17june, had the cerclage is at 17w6d (although they wrote 17+4?) but seriously dont know what kind of cerclage it was (no one said...it needs to be removed at 37w).

Hstein-sorry your cervix is shortening but i ve heard much shirter ones holding up after the cerclage so you just need to stay in bed...6 weeks is not that long hun!

La rockera-hey hun!you were right, i ve had no more bleeding just that little dot...i ll be worrying of course but hopefully not as much!!how are you?when's your trip home?

Vaali-wow that baby really took it seriously,you have to evict him in a few days!!bubs is either extremely quiet (which freaks me out) or really giving me some good kicks (sooo much better!!) come ooooonnnnn let s see some more beautiful baby pics!!

LADIES- another stupid question...would i definitely know if i was leaking af even since i m on bed rest?i cant get it out of my mind...
 
Hello ladies! I have found my way back here, with my second pregnancy! Let me introduce myself before I get to my questions!!

I was diagnosed with PCOS when I was 15, and ttc naturally for 8+ years. I got pregnant on my first round of Clomid with my beautiful son, whom I had a .53cm cervix with funneling at 20 weeks with. I got a rescue cerclage put it, received my 17p shots, and stayed on strict bedrest until I delivered at 29 weeks. I also developed Obstetric Cholestasis, but my doctor wasn't concerned because he knew I wasn't going to make it too far. He was born a healthy 3lbs 8 oz and spent 9 weeks in the NICU. He just turned one yesterday( Yay Happy Birthday baby!!!) 5 months post partum, my IUD failed and I got pregnant again.. which was completely unexpected considering I had to take Clomid the first time around, and I actually ovulated on my own and my IUD came out.. anyway..

This time around I had a cerclage placed at 12 weeks and 17 shots starting at 16 weeks. I have had biweekly cervical length checks, and my cervix has remained above 4 c.m. I have also had ultrasounds twice a week and on the trace monitor twice a week to monitor the baby and make sure my toxins aren't affecting him. I have a scheduled c section at 37, as he feels this is the best time to take the baby and not risk stillbirth due to the Obstetric Cholestasis. Anyway I went to the doctor yesterday, and he said starting 32 weeks he is going to stop measuring my cervix. I had my son with me, and for the love of nothing I cannot remember why he said he didn't feel it was necessary after 32 weeks. Can anyone enlighten me?? And also, for those who have made it past 32 weeks already, did you stop your cervical scans?
Thanks for listening ladies, I hope everyone is having a great pregnancy, and I honestly pray for every woman who has gestastional complications, especially IC. It's a very scary thing...God Bless everyone!
 
Yep sure :)
im 4 weeks 3 days ... due 01st october 2012... due to have the cerclage i think shro...something (still waiting to visit consultant) we spoke before i got pregnant and the plan is to put it in at 13 weeks :)

i also had the same stitch put in with my daughter megan at 18weeks...she is now 4 yrs :)

x
 
This time around I had a cerclage placed at 12 weeks and 17 shots starting at 16 weeks. I have had biweekly cervical length checks, and my cervix has remained above 4 c.m. I have also had ultrasounds twice a week and on the trace monitor twice a week to monitor the baby and make sure my toxins aren't affecting him. I have a scheduled c section at 37, as he feels this is the best time to take the baby and not risk stillbirth due to the Obstetric Cholestasis. Anyway I went to the doctor yesterday, and he said starting 32 weeks he is going to stop measuring my cervix. I had my son with me, and for the love of nothing I cannot remember why he said he didn't feel it was necessary after 32 weeks. Can anyone enlighten me?? And also, for those who have made it past 32 weeks already, did you stop your cervical scans?
Thanks for listening ladies, I hope everyone is having a great pregnancy, and I honestly pray for every woman who has gestastional complications, especially IC. It's a very scary thing...God Bless everyone!

Welcome! It can indeed be very scary, but it sounds like you have a very attentive doctor, and I'm confident all will go well. With IC, the riskiest window is somewhere between 18 or 20 weeks, through 28 weeks. Not that some rare issues could occur before or later, but these are the main times of concern. After 28 weeks, baby is pretty much too big to just fall out if the IC came into play and you dilated early. You'd need to be in actual pre-term labor and contracting for it to become an issue at that point, and PTL is a separate issue than IC. Some women get both, but many, like me, never contract or have PTL with their IC. So, after 28 weeks or so, it's more important to monitor potential contractions than your cervix itself. I'm nearly 37 weeks, have had a cerclage in since 12 weeks due to a 24 week birth last time (he died a little over a month old). My cervix hasn't been checked since 32 weeks. I'll be having a c-section on February 10th because I had to have an emergency, classical c-section last time, and the risk of uterine rupture is too great for me to be allowed to labor and try VBAC. So, my cerclage won't be coming out until baby is here, but at the same time, they won't be checking it anymore.

Best of wishes to you for a long, stress-free pregnancy!
 
Chickie- I am so sorry for your loss. I'm glad this pregnancy is going so well for you!! Feb. 10th- not too much longer from now!! Congrats! xx
 
Wow! i cant believe I have just written a long post and lost it:growlmad:
Anyhow, Lizzie you are truly amassing, all the great advice and reassurance you give us all here!
Selina22, Welcome & congs on that BFP! Kateqpr, well done on reaching the 28w milestone hun!
Hstein, sorry about your cervix shortening but my understanding is that the cervix can be quite dynamic as mine had shortened to 21mm on my 16w scan(pre stitch).... after the stitch I put my self on bed-rest and on my next scan it had gone back to 31mm, hang in there and have plenty of bed rest and plenty of fluids.

Christiana hun, your are just like me as am constantly knicker checking in case am leaking AF but my experience the last time was I started to present a watery discharge for a while and prior to my waters breaking, I had a bloody show and a gush of fluid that trickled down my leg, I thought I'd pee'd my self. You will def know if you start to leak AF, its usually a straw like discharge with a sweet smell to it.

Well as for me am 20w+4 and been on BR since 17+3, I had my scan on Monday (trans abdo) as I declined the vaginal....The sonographer thought she may have seen some funneling but was not sure as the picture was not clear with the external scan. Am praying it was a false alarm....Will have another scan on the 18th Jan and hopefully I will get a clear picture then. I also had my swab results back and they were clear, no infection(Phew!)
Hi to all the Ladies I have missed out and would really like to thank you all for the love, info and support am getting here;
xxxx
 
Lizzie, am 20+4:happydance: and had my stitch @ 17+3...my EDD is 09/06/12 and I had the mc'donald stitch.
 
Nicole- welcome! It sure is scary but it s such a great thing that you still had your son and he s a healthy 1 year old today...it gives us soo much hope regardless of the stitch!! Just wanted to say hi anyway and i hope this is an uneventful and healthy 37 week pregnancy!

Olga- Hey! Thanks for answering my question...so you're sure i will know it right? I do get some watery discharge here and there but it s not enough to even get my undies wet (well not more than a little spot-sorry tmi). That's normal right? You re not talking about such kind of discharge? I ve got to the habit of smelling it (eeeeekkkkk gross i know)but it doesnt smell of anything...
anyway, i hope the funneling was not great but it i guess it wouldnt have been or the tech would have definitely seen it. Anyway, lets just keep our fxed no major changes or even better....no funneling at all on the 18th!!!Yyayayayayayya for being cleared of infections!!!!!!!!
 
Nicole R = hello! Re the cervical scans, generally they stop measuring the cervix at that point as it naturally starts to shorten at that point in every woman, in preparation for birth, so its not a good indicator of a problem. You doctor sounds like he's doing everything he should be!

x
 

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