Incompetent Cervix - stitch/cerclage - threatened labour

[chistiana]

JJ- hello honey. I too am so sad you have to be going through this. It's not fair, it sounds like a cruel cruel joke but i still choose to remain positive for you. Even though it might raise false hopes, Larockera is right...we ve heard of doctors soooo many times recommending terminating a pg for x,y reasons only a super healthy babies to be born a few months later. Go to this doctor babe and if chromosomal/genetic issues are eliminated as it sounds they will, then just have faith that the amnio will work. it will be harder than most of us have ever imagined but it can work. I think you ve decided right to stay at home, even though your psychological state is low low at the moment it is still better than having to spend all this time in a maternity ward. Please know that we re all thinking and praying for your miracle.

Kate- i am so glad you re finally taking everything in such a nice and relaxed way, that little polyp is a real sneaky darn think but hey as long as bubs is fine, screw you polyp (excuse my french)! I am doing better in terms of the cramping but i ve put myself on complete bed rest since friday night and my mood is so crapy i wonder how poor dh hasnt asked for a divorce with the things he's heard! Anyhow, i wont complain though..

Hello to everyone else, let's all make a wish for ALL our miracle babies to be here safe.

 

[lizziedripping]

Ooo, JJ Hun, forgot to say, in answer to your question about private consultation. It should not impact on your NHS care whatsoever. You are entitled to pay privately for additional support, or just a second opinion. It would be unethical for the NhS to then turn you away as a result. It is no different than my having an additional private scan, or or obstetrician check the nuchal fold in his private clinic xxx

 

[HelenGee]

Hi all,
Thank you for the update JJ, you are in my constant thoughts and prayers. I just cannot find the words to console you adequately, nothing quite covers it, but I am in awe of your bravery and wish I could do more to help.

The wait for answers is agony, and it so very cruel that you are going through this living hell. I am so, so sorry, but hope that the flicker of hope turns into reality for you. You are not writing off or betraying your baby, you are carefully giving this baby the best of care. Much love

Bookfish - I hope you're staving off the infections, what a nightmare. Some ladies go for months with these infections, you are being treated immediately - there is not a chance of infection taking hold. I was heartbroken reading about the loss of your little boy. How brave you and your hubby are. How very different the outcome will be this time because of the steps you have taken. Be proud of yourselves xx

La Rock- I am so excited for you , it's all so close. Stand by your choice of delivery, you will know the best option for you when the time comes. Don't be afraid to change your mind as it goes along either, childbirth is not a textbook science. Hopefully little Xanthe will just pop out at full term, and you'll be marathon running after a few weeks lol x

Kate- bloody hell, this isn't the same Kate who first posted on here a few months ago is it? You passed on an opportunity to test out the hospital beds again? I hope the bleeding has all gone now. Don't worry about adding another baby to the family, it all just falls into place, and after the stress of ic, it's a walk in the park. I can just picture you, Poppy and baby qpr strolling around in the sunshine. Have you found out the gender of bubs? You don't have to tell us, I just wondered if you wanted to know or not. 31 weeks is a huge relief and it's so lovely to hear that you're enjoying pregnancy now.

Olga- your measurements sound fine to me and certainly not a cause for concern. I did exactly what you did, I would scrutinise every scan picture and peace of data I was given, trying to work out if there might be another potential problem. If there are issues, it would be negligent of your docs not to tell you and I can't imagine they would risk that. All will be fine hun x

 

[LaRockera]

Hey guys,

just a quick update for me. I was told today that if I go in labour and the stitch is still there, I can have it removed at the clinic on the day, as long as I go there on time- just like you said. I was very relieved to hear that.

On the other hand, I was not so relieved to hear that if I go in labour while still taking the anti-clotting injections, I have to go under general anesthesia. Between that and natural birth sans epidural, I'd def. go for the latter, I don't care about the pain. Apparently I need to stop the injections a couple of days before labour- except how do I know when labour is?? I know the doctor is taking all precautions to keep me and bubba safe, and I'm truly grateful about that, but I'm not sure yet if I'm high risk or taking them as a precaution. A normal blood-clotting test I did in the UK produced normal results, but the TEG showed increased coagulation- so not sure where I am standing at the moment.

I say I'm still grateful for all the extra care I'm being given, and I also feel a bit guilty because I now feel I'm thinking of my own big far arse- wanting to be awake when the baby is delivered. I suppose approaching labour makes me extra nervous?

Oh well, I'm not complaining, not in the slightest. Just some thoughts really.

 

[book.fish2011]

Good morning All

LR: I have no much idea about your questions but hoping everything falls into place.
JJ: how are you sweety? Hope things are stable.
Kate, Christiana, Liven, Olga: hope all of you are well and things are going smoothly
Lizzie,Helen : hope you gals are fine.

 

[book.fish2011]

Just a quick update from my side. I had an appointment with my OB yesterday. She did a quick manual check and found my cervix is fine. However, regarding my yeast infection, she said she'd never seen dirty abscess like them - so huge and monster looking. She also said she didn't want to scare me so didnt admit that when I met her last time around. It's much better this week. But neither the OB nor me, both have no idea how I got them. Anyway.

Am extremely tired these days. After my h leaves for work, I've to get up and make something simple to eat. This simple action tires me so much.

Am just hoping things will remain okay and babies will be well. This pregnancy is like running a marathon barefoot. Probably worse.

 

[chistiana]

Hihi BOOKFISH i d actually rather run a marathon barefoot than go through all this stress!!!sorry about your yeast infection hun but at least it s slowly gettig better and tour cervix is ok so no need to worry, babies will be doing just fine!!!

QUESTION for everyone...it seems my
girl has decided to karate kick all the way up to my stomach...i ve been up all night and i cant keep down even the slightest of foor or even water. Plus i feel sooo
much burning ...does any of you lovely ladies have any good remendies for indigestion or whatever this is??

 

[book.fish2011]

Hihi BOOKFISH i d actually rather run a marathon barefoot than go through all this stress!!!sorry about your yeast infection hun but at least it s slowly gettig better and tour cervix is ok so no need to worry, babies will be doing just fine!!!

QUESTION for everyone...it seems my
girl has decided to karate kick all the way up to my stomach...i ve been up all night and i cant keep down even the slightest of foor or even water. Plus i feel sooo
much burning ...does any of you lovely ladies have any good remendies for indigestion or whatever this is??

You are right. That was such a stupid simily.

In India, a simple home remedy used for indigestion is eating small Indian bananas. But it doesn't work always, for example in my own case they haven't worked well. Are you throwing up a lot? That's awful. Poor you....

 

[JimmyJam]

Oh Bookfish you poor love. I know you're going through it but I really do believe you'll pull through. Hang in there sweetheart, you're going to have to dig deep but you will get there in the end.

And Chistiana - you were worried the baby wasn't moving enough?!!

Don't talk to me about marathon pregnancies ... (!)

I am still at home having the roughest time of my life. Despite all the psychological mindfuck I am in extreme discomfort. My belly is pulled so taught I can hardly move & if I do any activity at all - even getting out of bed - it really affects my breathing. I have been holding out for my appts tmrw & feel pretty sure I will end up having an amnio. I hope they don't try & force me to stay in or I really will start my 40th year in hospital. The medical care is excellent but it's a miserable bloody place. I am having daily, regular meltdowns.

Rosie, my MIL, is here looking after me & is driving me a bit nuts now. It's not her fault - she is wonderful & I'm lucky to have her - she just transfers her worry to me, thereby doubling my own, and I just want my home back now. And I need more time alone with Matt.

Lizzie - I had an episode last night because some further ramifications of my condition hit home. I am very at risk of PPROM because my water levels are so high & I understand that both myself & the baby would be in danger in the case of chorioamniocentesis (infection) & septis. I frightened myself because we have chosen Not to follow the consultant's wishes & admit me, but for me to stay at home - for my mental welfare more than anything. I am only 15 mins away via ambulance & aware of the symptoms I need to watch out for. but I still feel a bit irresponsible. It's a horrible situation to be in.

I wondered if you had any experience of ladies whose waters have broken early & what your thoughts were.

Secondly - o polyhydramnios is such a lovely condition - because my uterus is so distended from the additional fluid I also understand I'm at risk of postpartum haemmorage. I read in a post in another thread that you suffered from this. Whatever the outcome of this pregnancy I am likely to give birth & I wanted reassurance. I've read if it all goes pear-shaped they sometimes perform a hysterectomy to save the mother's life. I'm also wondering about the implications for future pregnancies. (Ha - that's a joke). It sounds like a scary condition.

I'm kind of moving into survival mode. I am now extremely worried about my own welfare as well as that of the baby. The only thing getting me through this is the knowledge that Matt & I are tight & that we have a future together regardless of what happens. I need to know I can come through this with my own health intact.

I hope everyone else is ok.

Olga, Liven, how are you both feeling?

Kate, LaRock, I am green with envy you both are where you are. But I wish you both so much love. Kate, when I have got through all this, whatever 'this' may be, I hope we can meet up.

Amd Lizzie & Helen I hope you are both well.

Happy Pancake Day everyone. The world rolls on without me ... (!)

Jimmyjam xx

 

[book.fish2011]

JJ, it's nice to hear from you dear. I have some idea what state of mind you are in now. All I can do for you meanwhile is to continue hoping..

My mom is like your mil. Very helpful with all the stuff but talking to her means you I have additional worries piling up. She's gone back home now so am alone here in Dubai when my dh is at work.

Like you, one thing keeping me going everyday ( I have no clue where am going), is my dh. When am extremely depressed and have nothing else to think about, I just think about him. You know I cannot still picturise a life with children. After my last loss, it's so so hard. So I just keep thinking ( and rethinking) about my sweet husband.

 

[lizziedripping]

Hi JJ

Clinical stuff out of the way first. PROM does carry a risk of infection, but when it happens, you have a few hours if not days in which to get baby out before infection poses a risk for either you or them. Infection is usually a risk when the cervix opens up unawares and there are several days without protection to the uterus. I absolutely agree with your decision to remain at home - your waters breaking are an obvious thing, it is like someone has turned on a tap and there is no mistaking it. There will be plenty of time to get to hospital. My waters went 2 days before Evie was finally born, and my cervix had been open prior to that for maybe a week. There was still no sign of infection in my uterus or placenta, and she was fine in that respect.

I did have PPH after my first and the twins. It was down to uterine over-distension in my case, my uterus was completely atonal at delivery and would just not contract back down. I was probably about the size you are now from 28wks on, and had another 10wks of stretching left in my uterus. The only difference is, is that it is the water which is causing your stretching, and so is more of a solid mass - whereas mine was a combination of babies and water, more malleable and not giving me that sensation of taught ness you describe until the last 6wks or so.

Whilst you are at increased risk of PPH, I doubt at this early stage your uterus is the size mine was, and even if it were maternal death or hysterectomy are absolute worst case scenarios hun. I had a 3/4 pint blood loss with the twins, but managed to scrape by without even a blood transfusion - just severe anaemia afterwards. PPH is dependent on many factors, uterine atony being just one of them. Some women can birth massive babies, have had 6 previous pregnancies, prolonged labour and have rubbish clotting factors and still get away with it. Others can bleed only because their uterus is tired from contracting, and need umpteen transfusions.

Your polyhydramnios alone is a risk factor, but probably no more than if you were carrying a large baby. If you have a good hb before delivery, are otherwise healthy, have had no prior deliveries and don't have a protracted labour then it is your only risk factor and unlikely to cause PpH. If it did, then there is no reason it should be a huge blood loss and require hysterectomy. That only comes if transfusions fail, and the bleeding can't be stopped - extremely rare. They inject several medicines into you at delivery if bleeding continues, which in my case helped to stop the bleeding eventually - that plus some manual contractions of my knackered uterus lol. PPH is actually surprisingly common in some women, but maternal deaths are rare.

Despite me having had two previous PPHs, twins and large babies - my consultant still said my risk of another is unlikely even in a fourth pregnancy (lots of pregnancies also increases risk) I'm not so sure I agree, but I know how manageable PpH is, so would be prepared to take the risk.

You are over thinking things hun - something we have ALL done whilst on bed rest. You are also dealing with a rare pregnancy complication, which in itself makes you utterly paranoid and open to the reality that bad things can and do happen - so why not to you? Been there with bells on! Your concerns are understandable, and not entirely unfounded. However, with care and caution, they are unlikely to happen and if they do can be managed relatively easily

I'm hoping they do the amnio tomorrow to ease your discomfort, and hopefully that will work ate last in the short term. I found an interesting article at the weekend you might like to read, but wanted to check with you first. It's about anomalies in cases of polyhydramnios. Let me know, and I'll post the link. Have you booked to see Nicolaides at Hrley street? He is a world leading expert and it might be worth getting his thoughts on your case - I'd feel very reassured by his opinion xxx

PS - I really don't want to talk too much about your ability to have more children in the future, since I am not convinced that this pregnancy is doomed hun, BUT one thing I can say regardless of the outcome is that pregnancy definitely makes you more fertile, even for women who have spent years trying to get pregnant. One of my dear friends over in the twins section had, like you spent several yrs and failed attempts at conception. After the third IUI with fertility drugs on board, she concevied twins. When they were a year old she decided to try once more naturally - just as he turned 40. First month trying, without any treatment they conceived a second set of twins!!! Thye are now 7/8mths old.

Unbelievable, but true, and a scenario I have seen so many times in women after they have had one succesful conception after yrs of nothing. Pregnancy seems to kick start fertility. I have seen this in myself this past yr. I went several yrs after having Evie before ttc again, and myfertility was affected. The twins took 18mths of on/off trying, but after them we have conceived pretty much each month of trying - 3 times in 7mths despite me being older and not far from 40! (Of course they now won't bloody stick, but nontheless..........). I hope that at this moment in time this isn't inappropriate for me to bring up, but I feel for you hun, understand how bleak things must feel, but that there is still hope for you and dh in the future - all is definitely not lost

Christiana, this sounds like a bug to me Hun. Plenty of water ( even small sips). It won't affect baby or stitch, so don't worry about that

LR - it totally fair enough that you should want to deliver lo whilst awake. I'd be asking for clarification re the clexane injections. If your original blood tests were normal, then ask if you can stop the mess now. You are so close now that it will be impossible to predict the onset of labour xxx

 

[kateqpr]

Hello lovely ladies.

LaRock - what a crap decision to have to make! But like you, i would not be keen on the general anaesthetic is i had a choice - it would be a very surreal way to meet your little girl. So go with your instinct. Is there other pain relief you can take if need be, other than en epidural? Is it that an epidural can effect your chances of clotting? Either way, you're so nearly there, and it's totally normal to start thinking / worrying about the impending labour. It soon starts to feel inevitable, doesn't it. I'm certainly awake a lot at the moment at night, reliving my last labour and worrying about this one. But I also know now that on the day you just go with the flow, because quite frankly, there's not a lot of choice! That baby will come out, which ever way, and that becomes the main concern on the day. Oh, and come on stitch removal!!!!

Bookfish - i totally hear you on the extreme tiredness. I am just so exhausted at the moment, and no matter how much sleep i get (which is always interrupted as i'm now so uncomfortable at night) i still just want to lie down and do nothing. Being on bed rest is AWFUL for energy levels. It has left me feeling weak, unfit and like jelly. And its so normal to feel extra reliant on your partner. Bed rest and high risk pregnancies leave you feeling particularly vulnerable, and your OH is really the only one who is, in some way, on that journey with you. Just trust that ALL of that changes once your baby is here, and suddenly your world will open up again once your up and about again, eventually going to little playgroups or just sitting in the park with your baby. This 'small world' of bed rest is a temporary tunnel, i promise.

Christiana - wow, are the kicks making you sick? You poor thing. If it is indigestion, a doctor had told me that a good natural remedy is slowly eating on a small green apple. It does help to move the wind and reduce acid. But if you're lying down a lot, that will not be helping either i guess. Maybe mention it to your doctor when you next see them, as that sounds miserable for you.

Helen - yup it's me! Former depressive worrier of olde!! Feeling much more positive now, though even typing that makes me feel like i'm tempting fate. My positivity has also brought with it a mild case of OCD - i get a thought in my mind, like ' i should really pick that sock up off the floor that i've been ignoring for days', then walk away, then a little niggle in my head says 'if you don't pick it up, maybe something bad will happen to your pregnancy' so i end up going back to the room to pick the bloody sock up! Its so weird - like my mind is constantly battling with tempting fate over things i can't control (ie, my baby) with random every day things that ARE in my control. So odd. I am mental, it's official.

JimmyJam - sooo good to hear from you. You're in my thoughts a lot at the moment. I drove through Chiswick again yesterday (official taxi service for husband Andy who is filming with Endemol this week) and wondered where you were and how you were. I bet tomorrow's appointment can't come soon enough, just to get some more news. But hey, lets look at the positives. You're another week on (which never seems possible at the time). You may have the amnio tomorrow, but hopefully that will give you some instant relief physically, plus some more answers as to the reasons behind the polyhyrdamnios, if any. Are you still planning on doing it privately, or is that something you'll discuss tomorrow?

Just go armed with a list of questions tomorrow - write them down so you don't walk out having forgotten anything. It sounds like you need reassurance that your own well being is also being though about (which of course it is). And if you do end up in hospital, then so be it. Just take each day and piece of advice as it comes, and do whats best at the time. You've had an extra week at home now, which is great. I assume as the pregnancy progresses, they may be more keen for you to be admitted, but hopefully the amnio process will reduce the risk or PPROM for a while, so that should reassure you. I'm also assuming that your worries regarding the post partum bleeding is one of the reasons they've suggested a possible C section - to give them more control over how your body manages the birth. Just keep asking questions, and go from there. Googling won't really help, as it will just give you worries and worse case scenarios but no answers.

It's so so normal to go into survival mode. That is exactly what you're having to do right now - survive these next few weeks. And its so normal to be worried about growing attached to your baby. I had that a lot (and even now) as fear and a survival instinct to try to protect myself from hurt and pain that the possibility of losing my baby brings. But sometimes, just allow yourself to love your baby too. Whatever the outcome, you will never be able to forget or ignore the fact that you have this baby inside you, how ever mixed up and confusing this pregnancy is. When i was admitted to hospital at 24 weeks with bleeding and they suspected i was in early labour (had steroids, and nearly a week inside) i had to face up to the possibility of the worst case scenario. I cried a lot and felt so so vulnerable and fragile, like i was going mad. I wasn't 'me' anymore.

But the baby was kicking a lot, and in the wee small hours, i allowed myself to start talking to my baby more, telling her how sorry i was that things weren't in my control. How i wanted to love and protect her, but couldn't guarantee how life would turn out. To be honest, it became a comfort to me, because i knew whatever happened i would end up having to give birth, and what ever happened, this baby was a part of me and Andy, and we wanted and loved her, no matter what the outcome. And just letting myself acknowledge that rather than hide from it out of fear, did give me some respite, however weirdly that worked psychologically! I know we're all hugely different emotionally, and this may make no sense or reason to anyone else other than me, but just go easy on yourself and how you feel. You're a person who deserves so much but is having to deal with the toughest trials and tribulations. You'll get through this time, because life dictates that you will. Just keep Matt close, and you can get through anything. And yes, we shall meet up, as soon as you feel able.

Sorry i'm rambling, and actually not making any sense any more. I shall stop! You are doing brilliantly to have made it this far still intact and vaguely sane. And hopefully the answers tomorrow will help you get through the next few weeks.

Now, me me me me time! Noooo news. No more bleeding other than the little bit on Saturday night. Baby kicking the hell out of me. I am feeling so so tired at the moment, and waking up to pee every two hours. Hips hurting. Can't stop eating. Feeling like a beached whale. Pah.

Also, i'm starting to really worry about how i'll actually cope with two children. Andy was away last night and i had to take Poppy to preschool on my own this morning (a novelty after 3 months bedrest). I ended up shouting at her over something so silly (she was refusing to take her jeans off before her wee!) as i just felt tired, hot and bothered and totally unable to do the simplest task. She then dramatically collapses in tears on the floor, so shocked by my shouting, and we ended up spending five minutes cuddling on the floor, me apologising for shouting and placing myself on our bottom step for a minute for being naughty!!! God knows how i'll cope getting two out of the house in the morning. I just feel like a crap mum for losing my patience...

Right, best get my arse into gear and go pick Poppy up again. Pancake day today, so that's todays tea sorted!

Love to you all - keep strong. You are all getting there, slowly but surely

xx

 

[lizziedripping]

Kate and more

Your story of shouting and tears this morning mirrored our house on Sunday evening. Evie was reading to me, away with the fairies, not concentrating at all, dragging her heels and I was pmtish, tired and frustrated. Equals shouting match, alarmed-looking Evie and horrible guilt-ridden tears from me several hours afterwards This is normal to all Mums at some time or another - we are afterall just trying to get by in the best way we can, and our little one's are shocked only because it is a rare and unexpected occurence. IYour lo is so loved that she will have forgotten this within minutes, and will certainly not think to try peeing with trousers intact in future lol

you are looking at your ability to cope with two from the perspective of being pregnant with a stitch, confined to bed most days and unable to look after everyone fully. Remember that you will be physically fine once the new baby is here, feeling positive and in control once again, and I absolutely promise that two is oddly manageable where the first was a shock, and a very steep learning curve!

I wish I could drop you into my household for just a few hours - it is at times chaotic, always busy and not a little bit mad, but somehow it just works My home is far from ordered, meticulously organised or always stress free, but my life is much calmer now than it was with just one baby.

ALL mums go through this anxiety about managing a second, it part of being conscientious, and loving. It's also what is going to make you slip with ease into caring for two just as you have cared for one, and before you know it this new lo will seem as though she has always been here - and you'll forget quickly what life was like before

 

[chistiana]

Jj-about my compaining the baby wasnt kicking...i ll never open my mouth again!!
Of all us "marathon runners" i bet you d actually do a spartathlon barefoot if someone could take away all these worries. Things seem to be getting more complicated hun but at least you have your appointment tomorrow right? Even though i cant put myself in your shoes and i dont know whether i would choose to stay in hospital or not, i kind of believe you re doing the right thing for you..matt is your rock at the moment and you need him there..endeless nights without him would be even more torture. Go find out your chances and the chances of further complications tomorrow and then think about it again but in no way could anyone saying you re being irresponsible. Lots of love

Bookfish-thanks hun, i dont if those little bananas are any different but the normal ones dont seem to be making a difference to me. Could it possibly be a reaction to the antibiotics??

 

[chistiana]

Ow we were all writing together!!

LIZZIE- i m not sure it is a bug...it could be as it s been around lately but i havent actually been sick..it is just the feeling that my throath and stomach are all closed up and even when i sit up things i had like yesterday afternoon will come right up and burn my thoat. Do you think there might be a chance these new antibiotics are causing this?
Btw your house actually sounds fun with all these kids and babies around and i bet you re the best mummy ever!!

KATE- thanks to you too hun, i actually tried to sleep sitting last night but it didnt help at all. I m being miserable now plus i am taking 16 pils a day with no food whatsoever and have my mother pestering me...grrrrmmmmffffff. I thing you re a lovely mum, putting yourself on the bottom step for bein naughty...hahaha that actually made me laugh! Remember you re tired and have millions of hormones running around your body at the moment..it wont be tha same when lo#2 is here! Plus you ll find you ballances then, you cant really predict how you ll be now right?xx

 

[lizziedripping]

Christiana - heartburn is the culprit if you have burning after lying down - very common in pregnancy. Also, the closed-throat feeling plagued me in the twin pregnancy and I felt permanently congested - especially at night. I felt like I couldnt breath or swallow. You may already know this, but blood flow is increased in pregnancy and causes swelling of the mucus membranes and gives you this sensation - plus congestion is increased too, all a part of supporting the baby at the woman's expense!

It is uncomfrtable and tough, but absolutely no threat to the pregnancy my lovely. Try taking some gaviscon - absolutely fine in pregnancy. Also, eat smaller amounts more often, sleep raised on pillows (other ladies have already advised this I think?) and avoid late night eating if possible. I was lucky that heartburn never affected me in pregnancy because my babies were always so low down and not high under my ribs. You will get relief as your lo engages and drops lower into your pelvis in a few weeks time hun xxx

 

[JimmyJam]

Doh! We WERE all writing at once! I don't have anything else to do & I still can't keep up!!

 

[JimmyJam]

O wow, Lizzie, Kate, thank you. I can't tell you what a lifeline this thread is, I am so, so grateful. I feel so lucky to have found you. All choked up.

Lizzie you have reassured me that I'm making the right decisions & put my mind at rest over my own health & Kate, every time you manage to articulate so much of what I feel. It is comforting to know it's not just me who has these darkest fears when everything feels so risky.

Lizzie I'd love to see the article you've found, please. Is it scary? Everything I've read about poly is ... I have really been expecting the worst.

We can see Nicolaides on Weds if we want, but the tests they perform there are no extensive than at QC. He's only in on a weds, which is 'high risk' day & can involve an extensive wait - so I'm going to have my appt at QC in the morning & if that's not satisfactory I'll go to Harley St in the afternoon. An amnio is risky at this stage in a pregnancy but I think it may be our only choice ...

Kate - I think your concerns about a second child & your scrap with Poppy just indicate that life is getting more normal again & your worries are deflecting from the obsessive bed rest ghoulies to worrying about the usual everyday stuff. I know you will be a fabulous mum to your second. Andy's a lucky man.

Lizzie your status is 'sad' today. I hope you are okay, you are such a source of comfort to so many people. If we can offer any shreds of comfort in return I know everyone would leap at the chance to give something back.

Christiana my lovely - your sense of humour cheers me up. I hope you're feeling a bit better although I'm afraid I'm a numpty & have nothing useful to add ... You and Bookfish are both going through your own stuff but you still manage to find time to comfort me. You're so kind.

Thank you ladies. You're all amazing. I know I'm gushing but I really am so grateful. This thread is like a little beacon of light guiding me through a very dark night ...

Will check in tomorrow.

Love and luck to you all.

Jimmyjam xx

 

[chistiana]

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[olga2424]

Hi Olga, sorry hun, I seem to have missed your scan pics yesterday. A 23mm cervix is brilliant - and the fact that you are funneled to the stitch not important because you have a good remaining length of cervix below it. I am not sure why the docs are so alarmist hun - are there any other issues with the pregnancy as afar as you know?

the measurements for your funneling are at the moment what you'd expect, and at 11x10mms it is extremely unlikely that you have dilated through the stitch. There is far too much remaining closed cervix below the stitch for it to have dilated through it - the remaining length would be less than 10mms if that were the case. Have the docs said why they think this is such a bad scan result? I am certain they would have had to tell you if you had dilated through the stitch darlin'.

I know its easy for me to say honey, but please try not to worry - unless there's something else I don't know about, this looks fine to me, and no worse than you'd see in any lady with genuine IC at 24wks into the pregnancy. xxx

Lizzie hun,:wave: how are you and am so srry for the late response as the internet at this F$%&*n hospital can be quite a nightmare...Thank you so much for the feed back, I my self don't know why my consultant is full of 'doom and gloom'...I did ask him again after reading your post and he did admit that the funneling was not as important as long as there was a bit of cervix left bellow the stitch.
He rescanned me yesterday and even gave me more bad news that my CL was in fact 16mm and not the 23mm measurements the sonographer had taken on 14/02/12. He stated I should continue with the hospital bed rest + will have the FFN test on Wed.

The baby's growth is fantastic and estimated it to be around 639g, he stated that if I can at least push it to 28w and that way bubba would then have a good survival rate. Its been a week on hospital bed-rest and am slowly losing my mind (JJ, I totaly agree with you not wanting to be in hospital as it sucks! No one to talk to other than my ipad and listening to ladies laboring 24/7 and babies crying all day. Dh only visits in the evenings for a few hours after work and is usually rushed as the visiting times end @8.30pm. My experience with some of the nurses has been so horrible! It really makes me wonder why they do this job as it requires skillful people with good bedside manners, patience and compassion.
Its really tough going as I spend a maximum of 23hrs a day in the "Trendelenburg" position and only get up for not more than 20mins to have a pop on the loo, brush my teeth and freshen up....I use a bed pan on the bed to wee:, eat all my meals lying down plus have developed severe heartburn...Am trying each and everything in order to keep cooking this bubba for a little longer.

Jimmyjam sweets, I was thinking about you all weekend and I cried a lot after reading your post....In some strange way I still feel this little glimmer of hope for you/Matt and your lo once you have the amnio done and have some answers re-babys health + some of the fluid drained away, things may be much clearer! I know you mentioned you will be seeing proff Nicolades, Would you want me to send you the link of a clip I came across online? He was treating a lady cayying twins at 20w with a severe case of polyhydramnios plus a condition called "twin2twin" syndrom and apparently he is one of the best in the country. The progrrame was on 4oD catch up.

Book.fish hun, am glad you stitch is still looking good and so sorry about that horrible yeast infection hun..

Christiana hun, not long till Viability sweets. re- the heartburn, its horrid isnt it? am taking gaviscon at the mo for it.

Helen, hope you well darls and Larockera, am so excited for you, bet you cant wait to meet little Xanthe

Kate, hope your well and little poppy is not keeping you on your toes...
Oh and one more question for you ladies, did you or have you experience on/off lower back? I keep getting it and think it labor starting..PHEW!! just don't know what to do with my self anymore, Ive cried enough tears to last me a whole year.