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Incompetent Cervix - stitch/cerclage - threatened labour

Hey ladies :) Welcome SJ's Mum. You've done so well to make 33wks, the next few should be more relaxed for you honey. Don't worry about stitch removal, its probably uncomfortable rather than painful and tbh most ladies go on several more weeks after its out (tho there are some who labour within a week or so). Good luck xxx

Chococat - Sorry to hear you're having a rough time :( If there's anything we can do to help you know that we're here for you :hugs: Whereabouts are you from in S.Yorks btw? That's where I hail from originally - parents still live there :) xxx

Prayer - I rotuinely got a 'pint per pump' roughly x4 a day with Evie and the twins. It tapered off after about 6mths xx
 
Lizzie-Thank you sooo much for responding to me. It seems like you are definitely the expert to ask :) I am today 26 weeks 5 days. So slowly getting there. That makes sense what you said about the stitch and how that could hold everything in b/c the baby would need contractions to come out. I never looked at it that way. I have been drinking A TON of water and am on strict bedrest so I hope I'm doing the right things. Whats weird though is the dr said I was not funneling. So how can the cervix get shorter under the stitch? To me that would mean there was pressure of some kind, aka funneling? Aaaahhh I need to stop stressing.

One more thing..I did notice that for the last 2 mornings, when I wake up and go to the bathroom I notice like a yellow glob of mucuous when I wipe. Could that be my mucus plug? Theres no blood and I have no contractions. I read somewhere that with a stitch it is possibleto have more mucus b/c there is a foreign body in there. Also I'm wondering bc I had the transvaginal u/s the day before this started, I wonder if that made me create me mucuc too. And with being on bedrest it just comes out in the morning after lying all night. Any thoughts? I hate to call my dr bc I don't want all these tests and poking and prodding if i don't need to you know? Sorry for the long email :) :winkwink:

Hi hun, a shortening cervix does not have to be a funneling one ;) The cervix softens, shortens and then when below a certain length tends to funnel (but not always). Although the stitch seperates top from bottom, you should try to still imagine the cervix as one long closed funnel. When it shortens the whole of it does so, the fact that the stitch is there is irrelevant in terms of the measurment. The stitch simply prevents it funneliing (opening) below - so the length youre given is generally the length below the stitch because it is this remaining, closed cervix which counts. It doesnt matter that it opens above because that is to be exoected and is ok because the stitch usually prevents it opening beyond that point - hope that makes sense?

As for mucus, it could just be the usual pregnancy related gunk which is common throughout. Having a stitch usually creates more of it so don't be alarmed by it. The plug is a definite snot-like glob of blood stained jelly which is unmistakable. I'm certain this is nothing to worry about, but if you're stressing why not get checked? Xxx
 
@ tink, adorable is what you 3 are,
@ sj's mom, sorry about your previous loss and congrats on getting this far. Removing the cerclage shouldn't be too discomfort able from what i've heard.
@ prayerful, thk God your little girl is doing so well
@ agiboma and shelby, wish i could say I was able to pump that much. My milk supply was never as plentiful.lol!
@ chocolate cat, sorry you are going through a loss and facing all this other emotions. Sending you hugs.x
@ Wundaful, congrats on reaching 26 weeks.
 
Hello!!

Chocolatecate, sorry to hear you're experiencing such a rough time. Hope things get better for you and that all goes well at your MW appt. :hugs:

SJ, Welcome to the thread!! Sorry to hear about your previous loss. Congrats on making it to 33 weeks, thats wonderful!! I don't any personal experience with the stitch as I do not have one myself, but sending good vibes your way, hope everything goes well. :hugs:

Prayer, super happy both Missy and you are doing well. Great news about her potentially coming home in 3 weeks or so. Been thinking about the both of you ans wishing you both a speedy recovery :flower:

Ich, how are you and Jonathan doing??

Baby, havent heard from you, hope all is well. :hugs:

Everyone else I missed, hope you're doing well and still cooking :)

Thank you all for the compliments on my little family!

AFM, im doing good, feeling Audrey grow more and more by the day in there. Im really excited to meet her and hold her soon. :cloud9:
 
Tink, one of my best friends is named Audrey, and she is beautiful both inside and out :) What a lovely family you're gonna make xxx
 
Hi Mommas. Anyone not have a cerclage? I was too far along to get one. Just curious if anyone else does not/did not have one and how things are/did work out.

I'm 27 weeks and have been on hospital bedrest for 19 days now. I'm dilated 1-2 cm. And I have bathroom privileges plus I can shower every three days.

I really want to keep these babies in longer!
 
Hey ladies justv left doc.she said she prob going to put me on hospital bedrest before 24 weeeks so I can do my 3 hr glucose since hr one was a lil high.
 
Just got very irritated when I went to doc two weeks ago did cl and I swear the lady said 1.7 cm my do said today .7 cm becoming very stresed.
 
Hi Mommas. Anyone not have a cerclage? I was too far along to get one. Just curious if anyone else does not/did not have one and how things are/did work out.

I'm 27 weeks and have been on hospital bedrest for 19 days now. I'm dilated 1-2 cm. And I have bathroom privileges plus I can shower every three days.

I really want to keep these babies in longer!

Hi, I wasnt given a cerclage as it was kinda late when I was finally diagnosed. Ive been on strict bed rest at home for 8 weeks on Monday. I have been on 200 mg of progesterone vaginally for 8 weeks also and it has worked for me, Ill be 31 weeks tomorrow. However, im only carrying one baby as opposed to twins.

Shelby on this thread had twin girls and had no cerclauge. Her girls were delivered at 29+5. She might be the best person to answer ur questions as she was in a similar situation as yours..

I wish you good luck and hope u keep those babies cooking for a long time :hugs:
 
Hi Mommas. Anyone not have a cerclage? I was too far along to get one. Just curious if anyone else does not/did not have one and how things are/did work out.

I'm 27 weeks and have been on hospital bedrest for 19 days now. I'm dilated 1-2 cm. And I have bathroom privileges plus I can shower every three days.

I really want to keep these babies in longer!

Hi, I wasnt given a cerclage as it was kinda late when I was finally diagnosed. Ive been on strict bed rest at home for 8 weeks on Monday. I have been on 200 mg of progesterone vaginally for 8 weeks also and it has worked for me, Ill be 31 weeks tomorrow. However, im only carrying one baby as opposed to twins.

Shelby on this thread had twin girls and had no cerclauge. Her girls were delivered at 29+5. She might be the best person to answer ur questions as she was in a similar situation as yours..

I wish you good luck and hope u keep those babies cooking for a long time :hugs:

Yep, I can answer whatever questions you have! :thumbup:

And congrats on 31 weeks, Tink! :hugs:
 
Yes, have a cerclage! Don't be afraid. I was a worst case scenario and cerclages allowed me to be able to carry my boys to term. For one pregnancy, my cervix was so short and effaced that during the cerclage procedure the doctor had to pull it to make enough cervix to put in two Shirodkar stitches. The reason is was so weak was because we had gotten pregnant right after we lost our first son at 22 weeks. Cerclage placement was great, I worked after that, had no cervical issues, held tight and I carried to term. For my next son, I had a McDonald cerclage placed, no issues. I have so much info and experience, please email me [email protected] and here is the blog I have about cerclages, please come and read! https://angelheartsforever.blogspot.com/2013/02/cerclages-are-successful-dont-be-afraid.html
 
For anyone coming here wanting information on cerclages:

CERCLAGES ARE SUCCESSFUL! DON'T BE AFRAID!!! I've been reading some blogs lately and I'm horrified to see that MANY women have second term losses and have been diagnosed with Incompetent cervix or are confused because they had an infection of the membranes and doctors don't know if the incompetent cervix allowed the bacteria up there or if the infection happened and then the women just went into pre term labor. I am AN EXPERT ON THIS SITUATION. DEMAND AN EARLY CERCLAGE at 12 weeks of any subsequent pregnancy, whether your diagnosis was certain or not. DO IT. DO IT. It's scary, but you will not lose your baby during the procedure, the doctors who do these procedures are EXCELLENT. Waiting to see if your cervix will hold later in the pregnancy and then bed rest or an emergent cerclage ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL in A LOT OF CASES. A 12 WEEK CERCLAGE will give you the most opportunity to hold your babies if you in the above categories. I also had intramuscular injections of Progesterone, the oil, injected weekly by my husband. The shots were successful for me and I haven't tried any other way because my doctor said this was the best and only way to get the progesterone where it needed to be. I also refrained from SEX and BATHS during the entire pregnancy. DO NOT TAKE BATHS!!! Some doctors won't tell you this stuff! They say you can have sex a few weeks after the cerclage is placed, don't chance it, not even with condoms because if you have group b strep or other nasty things in your lower vagina, anything in there can push it up to the cervix. I don't even like vaginal wand exams after the cerclage and my office will not do them. Advocate for yourself. FIND SOMEONE who does CERCLAGES and is SUPER CAUTIOUS if your current OB-Gyn is the wait and see type and doesn't want to do cerclages. I'm APPALLED by a story I just read on a blog, the women lost a set of twins to the circumstances above, which was my own as well (singleton though), and when she got pregnant with a second set of twins, a doctor should have IMMEDIATELY set her up for a cerclage. Multiples are saved as well from this procedure and I can't believe there is any evidence out there that this isn't successful with multiples as well. Women with multiples may have more restrictions with a cerclage to keep extra weight off of the cerclage but I've read about women carrying twins having a cerclage and she worked until the very end and had no issue. Cerclages SAVE BABIES. Plus, it was a relief for me so have it in. It held tight and I promise to put my experience on here soon. DO IT! Don't be afraid, Cerclages are amazing and the risks don't outweigh the benefit=living baby. I have LOADS of information so in the meantime if you need to email me so we can chat about it personally, please please, email me. I will help you make this difficult decision. I had the worst case scenario, group B strep and other bacteria in the vagina and and incompetent cervix. Scary. But I have two living children and wonderful pregnancies and full term deliveries using a cerclage. I have no damage to my cervix and with my second son (first we lost at 21 weeks to IC and infection of placenta and fluid) and I had the WORST CASE scenario when at 11 week, I went in to have my cerclage placed (I opted to stay awake, control thing) and I heard the doctor say in the middle of putting it in, this is the shortest cervix I've ever seen, I'm going to have to pull it to give me something to work with and put two in, and he had to do the Shirodkar which is an older and more invasive procedure. So I am the worst case. I think my short and effaced cervix at that point was due to the fact that we got pregnant three months after losing my first and that wasn't the smartest thing to do. My uterus and cervix were not ready. But I had a cerclage placed and it did it's job. Email me for more info. and my next post will be about my cerclages. For my third son I had a McDonald cerclage at 12 weeks, so I've had them all except a transabdominal. Luckily we didn't have to go that route but we absolutely would have if it meant keeping my baby in until term. And I went to two different surgeons because we had moved from Florida to Virginia. The care was terrific at both places, cerclage placement is more common than you think. Advocate for yourself, it is YOUR DECISION whether or not you have a CERCLAGE PLACED. IT'S YOUR DECISION. YOURS, NOT THE DOCTOR. If they say it's their decision, pack up and go to another doctor. If you've had a 2nd trimester loss or an almost loss (you had a emergent cerclage or bedrest kept your babies in ) and there was any question as to whether or not your cervix was involved-you have the RIGHT to REQUEST A CERCLAGE at 12 weeks in your subsequent pregnancies. Even with multiples, YES!
I have a blog on this and many other things, I lost a baby too at 20 weeks. Come read:
https://angelheartsforever.blogspot.com/
 
CERCLAGES ARE SUCCESSFUL! DON'T BE AFRAID!!! I've been reading some blogs lately and I'm horrified to see that MANY women have second term losses and have been diagnosed with Incompetent cervix or are confused because they had an infection of the membranes and doctors don't know if the incompetent cervix allowed the bacteria up there or if the infection happened and then the women just went into pre term labor. I am AN EXPERT ON THIS SITUATION. DEMAND AN EARLY CERCLAGE at 12 weeks of any subsequent pregnancy, whether your diagnosis was certain or not. DO IT. DO IT. It's scary, but you will not lose your baby during the procedure, the doctors who do these procedures are EXCELLENT. Waiting to see if your cervix will hold later in the pregnancy and then bed rest or an emergent cerclage ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL in A LOT OF CASES. A 12 WEEK CERCLAGE will give you the most opportunity to hold your babies if you in the above categories. I also had intramuscular injections of Progesterone, the oil, injected weekly by my husband. The shots were successful for me and I haven't tried any other way because my doctor said this was the best and only way to get the progesterone where it needed to be. I also refrained from SEX and BATHS during the entire pregnancy. DO NOT TAKE BATHS!!! Some doctors won't tell you this stuff! They say you can have sex a few weeks after the cerclage is placed, don't chance it, not even with condoms because if you have group b strep or other nasty things in your lower vagina, anything in there can push it up to the cervix. I don't even like vaginal wand exams after the cerclage and my office will not do them. Advocate for yourself. FIND SOMEONE who does CERCLAGES and is SUPER CAUTIOUS if your current OB-Gyn is the wait and see type and doesn't want to do cerclages. I'm APPALLED by a story I just read on a blog, the women lost a set of twins to the circumstances above, which was my own as well (singleton though), and when she got pregnant with a second set of twins, a doctor should have IMMEDIATELY set her up for a cerclage. Multiples are saved as well from this procedure and I can't believe there is any evidence out there that this isn't successful with multiples as well. Women with multiples may have more restrictions with a cerclage to keep extra weight off of the cerclage but I've read about women carrying twins having a cerclage and she worked until the very end and had no issue. Cerclages SAVE BABIES. Plus, it was a relief for me so have it in. It held tight and I promise to put my experience on here soon. DO IT! Don't be afraid, Cerclages are amazing and the risks don't outweigh the benefit=living baby. I have LOADS of information so in the meantime if you need to email me so we can chat about it personally, please please, email me. I will help you make this difficult decision. I had the worst case scenario, group B strep and other bacteria in the vagina and and incompetent cervix. Scary. But I have two living children and wonderful pregnancies and full term deliveries using a cerclage. I have no damage to my cervix and with my second son (first we lost at 21 weeks to IC and infection of placenta and fluid) and I had the WORST CASE scenario when at 11 week, I went in to have my cerclage placed (I opted to stay awake, control thing) and I heard the doctor say in the middle of putting it in, this is the shortest cervix I've ever seen, I'm going to have to pull it to give me something to work with and put two in, and he had to do the Shirodkar which is an older and more invasive procedure. So I am the worst case. I think my short and effaced cervix at that point was due to the fact that we got pregnant three months after losing my first and that wasn't the smartest thing to do. My uterus and cervix were not ready. But I had a cerclage placed and it did it's job. Email me for more info. and my next post will be about my cerclages. For my third son I had a McDonald cerclage at 12 weeks, so I've had them all except a transabdominal. Luckily we didn't have to go that route but we absolutely would have if it meant keeping my baby in until term. And I went to two different surgeons because we had moved from Florida to Virginia. The care was terrific at both places, cerclage placement is more common than you think. Advocate for yourself, it is YOUR DECISION whether or not you have a CERCLAGE PLACED. IT'S YOUR DECISION. YOURS, NOT THE DOCTOR. If they say it's their decision, pack up and go to another doctor. If you've had a 2nd trimester loss or an almost loss (you had a emergent cerclage or bedrest kept your babies in ) and there was any question as to whether or not your cervix was involved-you have the RIGHT to REQUEST A CERCLAGE at 12 weeks in your subsequent pregnancies. Even with multiples, YES!
I have a blog on this and many other things, I lost a baby too at 20 weeks. Come read:
https://angelheartsforever.blogspot.com/
 
Hiya Ladies,

Welcome all newbies:hugs:

Stephb1981, I did a awful lot of reading, crocheting and knitting. I made two throws by crocheting when I was on bedrest. Borrowing family and friends boxsets also helped the time go by. I know exactly what you mean about the cleaning as well !!!

Tink congrats on getting pass 30 weeks and Abiboma congrats on 31 weeks. Well done ladies :happydance:

Lizzie been trying to send you a pm but there is still a problem with your inbox. How are you doing. I'm came back on here for advice before trying again and I am so glad I did.

Chocolate, so sorry you are having a bad week, hope you feel better soon :flower:

Update: I went for my second opinion yesterday. I couldn't wait till next week!! Best thing I ever did. I found out that I have a short cervix which measures 25mm when I'm not pregnant. It felt so good to find out what exactly was wrong. I will be getting a tvcic before I get pregnant again. I cried when I left the consultation :cry: it was just a big relief finding out for definate what was wrong and knowing that something could be done about it. Feel really positive :happydance:

A big thank you ladies for all your knowledge, help and advice :friends:
 
Hey girls, sorry I've not been posting. I'm still here just lurking mostly and keeping up with everyone just not replying.

Welcome to all the new ladies, you've all had great advice from the other ladies here already so I don't think I need to add anything, althgh if I think of anything I'll be sure to write it down!

Tink - you and DH are a gorgeous pair and Audrey does look like her daddy from that scan :)

Butterfly - I'm really pleased for you that your consultant appointment went well. Hopefully getting the tvc before your next pregnancy will help loads with your cervix next time round and you'll have a more straightforward time of it :)

AFM - I'm still plodding along, my stitch is coming out next week so I'm looking forward to being stitch free and the little man possibly making an appearance in the next couple of weeks. I do hope he arrives sooner rather than later just because I'm so uncomfortable now. I know he's not even in the right position for birth yet though, so I don't know how long they'll wait to intervene. The consultant said that patience is the key and he will probably make it properly head down eventually (at the moment he seems to switch between transverse and oblique). I think I may get a presentation scan at 37 weeks to check exactly where he is so I guess I'll know a bit more then. All i know right now is that if my waters go and he is still in the position he's been in I'm likely to head straight for a section as the consultant said he can't be turned once my waters have gone.
 
Had a shocker sleep last night :( I had alot of braxton hicks , driving me crazy
 

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