Incompetent Cervix - stitch/cerclage - threatened labour

[overandout]

Good luck carry22 let us know how you got on.take care

 

[overandout]

hi LaRockera, no darling its not wise to panic, i would say see your healthcare provider asap as green discharge doesn't sound right, if their is a sign of infection they will deal with it, im sure that would alleviate your concerns which is important for your well-being and bubbas!

take care overandout

 

[Susanah]

Vaali - hi! Big wave back we are about the same stage. Hope we can encourage each other along

Ekt- why are you on ibuprofen?????? NSAIDs are not a good idea in pregnancy. I'm worried about regular use. What are u being told to take it for? Red flag!

Sham - massive congrats. Well done another baby to join the club. Welcome Jordan.

As for sneezing amd coughing - try not to worry. The forceful contractions on labour cause a stitch to tear - coughing etc is nowhere near forceful enough, even with minimal cervical length. Of course it's possible but would be very rare.

Susie

 

[Susanah]

Larockera - you need repeat swabs, and possibly antibiotics, fluconazole orally and canestan vaginal pessaries. Don't ignore any sign of infection. Good luck.
Susie

 

[vaali]

Susie - sure! we will..

Larock - dont panic!.. greenish sounds like trish infection.. not very sure though. can very well be treated by safer antibiotics. Im sure it will settle in couple of days once treatment started & bub is all safe happily kickin around..

 

[LaRockera]

Guys, first of all THANK YOU! You are amazing.

I called the Triage shortly after I posted here, and they told me to go there and get checked. I went and they listened to my baby's heart, and felt my uterus and took a swab. They were really, really nice and attentive. In fact, it was a great big relief to know there is good care within twenty minutes from my house through the Nhs. Now I know where to go if I panic again.

The discharge that came out (with the speculum also, it was a bit yucky actually) seemed all white and creamy. The doctor said she can't tell if it's an infection or not, but I'll have the results in two days' time. In the meantime I was advised to leave it alone.

I came back home and washed myself (externally, neutral soap) and slept without undies. I've also decided not to wear pantyliners and just keep changing my underwear during the day. Got myself some non-bio laundry liquid, and I'm thinking very seriously to start taking probiotic tablets. The doctor in Triage said they're safe, and it's like eating loads of yogurt. Rumour has it it helps protect you from infections.

Anyway, I'm hoping I acted on time and it's all going to be fine. I know I was clean three weeks ago as I had another swab in Greece before I returned here, as the antibiotics after the cerclage gave me a bit of irritation.

Thank you all for the support and the good wishes. I hope to be able to do the same for you at some point (actually, I don't hope you need support, just to be able to give to you should you need any... no wait... how do I get out of this sentence? )

 

[lizziedripping]

Hi Rock, greenish discharge is not good, but white and creamy can be completly normal in pregnancy, and is actually there as a barrier to infection. I had loads and it sometimes clouded the view of my cervix on TVU there was so much of it! It increased as the pregnancy went on, but was never a problem. It's always wise to get checked out tho hun, and the local labour and delivery never mind you dropping in x

 

[AmyLouise89]

Hey everyone. I'm WTT atm but should be seeing a specialist before the 31st to see when I can try again. My 2nd loss was April 11, 2011 at 20 weeks 5 days with emergent cerclage & diagnosed with incompetent cervix. I'm so anxious & excited to try again but so scared too. Does anyone know what the chances of going to full term (or near it) after getting a cerclage at 12-13 weeks?

I also have hypothyroidism.

 

[LaRockera]

Hey everyone. I'm WTT atm but should be seeing a specialist before the 31st to see when I can try again. My 2nd loss was April 11, 2011 at 20 weeks 5 days with emergent cerclage & diagnosed with incompetent cervix. I'm so anxious & excited to try again but so scared too. Does anyone know what the chances of going to full term (or near it) after getting a cerclage at 12-13 weeks?

I also have hypothyroidism.

First of, I'm so very sorry for your loss. Nothing much I can say really.

But with an elective cerclage, and if you're careful enough with movements and keep an eye for infections, my doctor said the chance is about 99,5%. The stitch does work, hon. Then you're in the same danger zones for the same things as any other pregnant woman on the second trimester.

I'd suggest you read this thread from the beginning-- too long I know, but many inspiring stories here, and the ladies are all wonderful.

 

[priyanka]

Dear Amy;

We all here in this forum understand how it feels after a loss, but if you read the forum you'll see numerous success stories and the courage shown by most IC women to fight the system to get the right care they deserve, rather than being told what midwives are saying is the final word till heavens fall down.

Felling scared is natural, but don't let that hamper your determination to get positive result this time, with self-education & self-monitoring, rather than just depending on sometimes dumb & non-caring midwives.

My doc sai cerclage at 12-13 weeks gives 70% success rate, next meeting she said 60%, next meeting she said "it depends".........but I have read all pages of this forum & there are IC people who delivered successfully even with major heart problems....so I dont see anything to worry.....just bed-rest, avoiding infection, treating infection asap & drinking lots of fluid does the trick for almost all IC cases.

All the best dear. God Bless.

 

[ekt]

I'm on ibuprofen to help relax my uterus because of the contractions I'm having. I realize it's a strange method of treatment, but it's working some.

I've had a terrible, deep and hard cough for a week now. I'm on an antibiotic, which has helped tremendoulsy. I feel pressure on my cervix when I cough, so I'm hoping that's just the stitch I feel and not anything more serious.

My cerclage was elective and my cervix was substational when the cerclage was placed, and for weeks after that. Has anyone else had an elective cerclage and then had cervical shortening and slight funneling prior to 20 weeks?

Thanks!

 

[priyanka]

hi ekt. I had elective stitch when my cervix was 4.2cm at 12w3d, then scan at 20w showed cervix open upto the stitch length 1.5cm........I was so worried that all baby weight is pushing on the stitch now, so i posted same question on this forum.......but my doc & all experienced successful cases replied to me that this is normal in IC cases, and that is the whole purpose of having the stitch put...after all we knew that we will open up under baby weight thats why they sewed it up shut.....so dont worry dear. I was also told that this forum has ladies who made it to full term with even shorter ength with stitch.

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Hey everyone. I'm WTT atm but should be seeing a specialist before the 31st to see when I can try again. My 2nd loss was April 11, 2011 at 20 weeks 5 days with emergent cerclage & diagnosed with incompetent cervix. I'm so anxious & excited to try again but so scared too. Does anyone know what the chances of going to full term (or near it) after getting a cerclage at 12-13 weeks?

I also have hypothyroidism.

Your chances are very good! I lost my son two years ago at 22wks and after finding I too had IC, when I got pregnant this time around, I fought very hard for a cerclage but didn't get one until 19wks when it was proven after weekly monitoring. We now have Amelia who was born at 28wks by c-section (because she was transverse position) and are a little over two wks. Her picture is in my avatar.

Having a prophylactic cerclage or early cerclage at 13 to 14wks is even better!

There are plenty of women in here who have overcome IC to have a healthy, happy baby. So I pray this gives you HOPE and maybe a bit of peace along the way.

 

[Susanah]

Amy - Id put chances much higher than 70% with an elective cerclarge at 14 weeks.
Please do read through some of this thread because many of us here have been where you are now. Please do not lose hope. With an elective cerclarge you can carry to term and have a healthy baby. Im so sorry that you have had two losses. The loss of my son was the most painful thing I have ever been through and I, and many other people here, really do know how difficult it is. Keep in touch.

ekt - how many weeks are you? ibuprofen is strongly discouraged in the third trimester in the UK because it can cause some of the babies' blood vessels to close prematurely. it is used in pregnancy but doctors try to stop women in the third trimester from taking NSAIDs/Ibuprofen because of this effect. Im not trying to tell you how to manage your pregnancy but discuss it through with your senior doctor. Maybe you have done already in which case just ignore me lol

MA - how are u doing? Enjoying things?

x

 

[lizziedripping]

MA I ws wondering how you were too, feeling any better? x

Hi ekt, my cervix was around 4 at 18wks, and 3.4 at 21wks. It had funneled to the stitch by my next scan at 25wks, and I had around 1.8cms of remaining closed cervix below it. It remained that way until delivery at 38wks, and managed to withstand the weight of a very heavy pregnancy (24Ibs in total) .

We are all different hun, as is each pregnancy. Some of us funnel earlier than others, some don't at all, but the point is, with an elective stitch the funneling does not usually progress into full dilation. The stitches are definitely more than 70% effective, docs are just nervous to offer guarantees for obvious reasons. If stitches were placed in ALL women with short/weak cervixes, there would be significantly less mid pregnancy losses and premature births xxx

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Hi ladies,

I'm feeling better day by day. The itching is gradually going away. As for the c-section stitch, it hasn't bothered me at all. In fact, everyone keeps telling me I'm overdoing it. I've been walking around a whole lot and loving being off bed rest.

I had no idea that they tell you to relax for 6 weeks because you could actually reopen the stitches. EWWWww. So I'm trying to relax a bit more. Taking on making food after this week though. I've been DYING to cook again!

Amelia is doing well and just a minute ago she latched nicely for 24 minutes. Can you ladies tell me how long your little ones stay on for bf'ing? I think this time I saw a satisfied look on her face and she wasn't rooting for a change. We STILL had to feed her 1 ounce per Dr.'s orders since she lost again. She needs to gain that pound back.

Other than that, I'm REALLY loving this little girl more and more. I sat and watched her and daddy as they napped today. Boy am I blessed!

How are you ladies doing?!

 

[ekt]

I am 19 weeks now. The ibuprofen will end at 32 weeks (probably before because the contractions will become too strong for the ibuprofen).

Those of you who had elective cerclages and then shortened and funneled, did your dr treat you with bedrest, or did you continue on with a somewhat normal daily routine?

My IC was diagnosed at 24 weeks in my last pregnancy, too late for a cerclage to be effective (or so I was told), so I was on bedrest for 10 weeks.

Thanks!!

 

[sham1]

Hi guys!

Sorry I've taken so long! Jordan is really keeping me on my toes. He's good and here are some photos of us at hospital and at home.

How's everyone doing? What's new (I haven't had a chance to read all messages but promise to catch up!).

I hope everyone is keeping the faith. MA how is Amelia? God bless x

 

[sham1]

Hi ladies,

I'm feeling better day by day. The itching is gradually going away. As for the c-section stitch, it hasn't bothered me at all. In fact, everyone keeps telling me I'm overdoing it. I've been walking around a whole lot and loving being off bed rest.

I had no idea that they tell you to relax for 6 weeks because you could actually reopen the stitches. EWWWww. So I'm trying to relax a bit more. Taking on making food after this week though. I've been DYING to cook again!

Amelia is doing well and just a minute ago she latched nicely for 24 minutes. Can you ladies tell me how long your little ones stay on for bf'ing? I think this time I saw a satisfied look on her face and she wasn't rooting for a change. We STILL had to feed her 1 ounce per Dr.'s orders since she lost again. She needs to gain that pound back.

Other than that, I'm REALLY loving this little girl more and more. I sat and watched her and daddy as they napped today. Boy am I blessed!

How are you ladies doing?!

Hi Ma, I'm glad you're feeling better, we are home from hospital and I'm feeling so blessed too. It's hard work but definitely worth every minute. Amelia looks gorgeous, I love the pic with butterfly wings

I try to keep Jordan on the breast for about the recommended 30 minutes but he often comes off before that by himself although I am combination feeding as I didn't have enough milk to begin so gradually going to ease him off the formula, all the best xx

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Hi ladies,

I'm feeling better day by day. The itching is gradually going away. As for the c-section stitch, it hasn't bothered me at all. In fact, everyone keeps telling me I'm overdoing it. I've been walking around a whole lot and loving being off bed rest.

I had no idea that they tell you to relax for 6 weeks because you could actually reopen the stitches. EWWWww. So I'm trying to relax a bit more. Taking on making food after this week though. I've been DYING to cook again!

Amelia is doing well and just a minute ago she latched nicely for 24 minutes. Can you ladies tell me how long your little ones stay on for bf'ing? I think this time I saw a satisfied look on her face and she wasn't rooting for a change. We STILL had to feed her 1 ounce per Dr.'s orders since she lost again. She needs to gain that pound back.

Other than that, I'm REALLY loving this little girl more and more. I sat and watched her and daddy as they napped today. Boy am I blessed!

How are you ladies doing?!

Hi Ma, I'm glad you're feeling better, we are home from hospital and I'm feeling so blessed too. It's hard work but definitely worth every minute. Amelia looks gorgeous, I love the pic with butterfly wings

I try to keep Jordan on the breast for about the recommended 30 minutes but he often comes off before that by himself although I am combination feeding as I didn't have enough milk to begin so gradually going to ease him off the formula, all the best xx

Oh my FAVORITE pic is the one with you and Jordan. Your both beautiful!

Yes, we're supplementing too. Amelia is finally starting to latch better now. I would like to see her weight go up this week. Praying for her to be getting a good amount of momma's milk. She now seems content after feedings now so I'm thinking it's starting to work itself out.

Looking forward to sharing mommy stories with you Sham.