Incompetent Cervix - stitch/cerclage - threatened labour

[liven1980]

Chris, BF and La Rocka thank you for replies. The discharge Was very watery in my pantys, but when I used toiletpaper it was more sticky.. It has kind of stopped, and I think i will manage to wait to thursday, but decided to check if its closed after what you all say. I will ask my doc to be extra careful.

Bf, I am 34 weeks now. Its very good and much longer than we ever expected. But does not stop the constant worries unfortunately...and one wants the very best for the baby, so always hope for more days you know....

LaRocka: yes, like Chris said, love your picture, so sweet

Chris, yes I will look for multicoloured paper as well My OH bought toiletpaper with red santa claus for christmas- not a very popular choice!!!

 

[lizziedripping]

Sunkiss, welcome honey to the thread and I am praying already for a positive outcome for you this time around you are right to be cautiously optimistic now that you are getting a cerclage, it is the best and appropriate course of action given your history. Last time you probably 'silently' dilated which allowed infection in subsequently causing your waters to break. Hopefully the stitch will firm everything up once more and get you safely to term. Please feel free to ask us anything, any time - we are a 'tight' group of women united by a common bond

Bf - I did mean daily blood tests Hun. Yours are I think around 4.5mmol/L (which is how mine were measured), and should have a fasting blood of below 5mmol/L so it sounds about right. Once I started testing it was consistently below 5 (100mg/dL) which is why they stopped monitoring me and I wasn't diagnosed with GD in the final analysis.

I wasn't overweight either but had previous large babies, the twins were measuring big and I had a small amount of glucose in my urine which meant I had to get tested. You too might find that you don't have genuine GD, but the twins have given a borderline positive when you did the GTT just because your body is working harder to sustain 2 babies x

Liven, sorry I didn't reply sooner - hectic day . It is very unlikely that you'd dilate through the stitch without any other symptoms than some watery discharge. At 34wks it is very normal to get increased watery discharge as your cervix softens and thins out in preparation for labour - even tho labour is weeks away yet.

If you were leaking water there would be lots more than a couple of teaspoons, and due to the presence of the stitch you would feel pulling and have significant amounts of bleeding. I had the same fears as you at around 34wks when my underwear was noticeabley more damp and I had so much more discharge. Remember that the baby is now big and pushing down on your pelvic floor, blood flow to the area is massively increased, and your cervix is under extra pressure. All these factors signal your body to make ready your cervix for delivery. This triggers the necessary hormones which in turn causes extra discharge. In pregnancy it is very watery in nature and feels like waters trickling, but most of the time it isn't. Hope that helps to reassure

Christiana, so sorry you've been stressed out by the new spotting. You are in the most worrying 'zone' at the moment, add to that any kind of bleeding and you must feel understandabley panicked I am certain this is nothing to worry about and as happened frequently to Kate, is just one of those weird inexplicable pregnancy Symptoms which has no identifiable cause.

Women bleed commonly in pregnancy, and most of the time it is harmless sweet. It is much more likely to be a non-sinister cause than anything related to ptl or cervical changes. If that were happening the bleeding would increase and get worse, and you would have developed other symptoms by now. Once it begins, ptl or significant cervical changes happen quite rapidly and there is no mistaking when that is happening.

You have likely had a small cervical bleed due to the presence of the stitch (also possibly not stitch related at all) - nothing at all to worry about and as superficial as a scratch on the surface of your skin.

 

[sunkiss]

thank u so much lizzie

 

[book.fish2011]

Sunkiss: my situation was a bit similar to yours- I was so clueless in my first pregnancy, lost my baby in nicu after pproming at 30 weeks. I too have a proactive OB this time and hoping for a better result. Wish you all the best honey

Lizzie - yeah I think you may be right about false GD in my case too but I have a q. Were your readings (breakfast,lunch,supper), always below 100 mg/dl? My doc asked me to keep a tab if mine goes above 125. Yesterday, my fasting and breakfast reading were near 70 however lunch and supper readings were near 110 mg/dl. That's because I had rice for both my meals. Am planning to check with OB today my mailing her..will keep you updated.

Chris: hope your spotting goes away. I can imagine how worrisome it must be.but as Lizzie said, it just could be nothing.

 

[chistiana]

Hi ladies!
Lizzie- you couldnt have said it better...if you didnt have 4 kids i d suggest going for medical school! Went to the doc today..he didnt want to do a tvu just in case he irritates the cervix but told me the spotting is probably due to superficial cervical scratches or something like this. He couldnt see any blood anywhere in there or near the placenta and even without the tvu he said the cervix looks closed and ok at length!
Now here's another question for all the ladies who ve given birth... Bubs has turned feet down (which actually kills me back) and the doc is not sure she will be able to turn head down. When did your baby turn?

BF- thanks hun, all seems ok for now (touch wood). How are you doing yourself hun? Are you making sure to take care of you and the babies?

Sunkiss-hope it all went great today!

 

[sunkiss]

thank u so much book.fish2011, and same to u n ur baby twins !! so unfortunate that sometimes we have to suffer a devastating loss before we know of underlying silent issues but i am so fortunate to have a better chance this time

 

[chistiana]

oups meant tomorrow for sunkiss!

 

[book.fish2011]

How's everyone today? My GD is turning to bothersome. Yesterday evening, the reading after supper was as high as 148. Ii was always around 110 so this sudden jump is not making sense to me. Am planning to lurk around in GD thread as suggested by Kate.

Any news from JJ?

 

[liven1980]

Lizzie: Thank you so much for info. It helped me a lot to read it before I went to bed bc I got a new "flash" of the same watery discharge. I am going to my appointment to day, and I bet the dc will say the same as u

Bf: sorry i cant help u with Gd. Sounds vise to have a look at the Gd thread. I hope u find the info u need.

So, going to hospital today and will update u later. Really hope all is ok. I think the baby gained to little weight at the last measurement, so hoping she has done a lot of "eating" the last week!

ps. Chris: i had "spotting" (more like threads of blood) again yesterday. I am relying on this to be a irritated cervix as well...

 

[kateqpr]

Hi everyone!

Good luck Sunkiss for your stitch procedure today! Am sure it will all go smoothly. Just keep calm, and don't worry if you have some bleeding and pain afterwards. All totally normal and goes within a week or so.

Christiana - are you feeling much better now? Cough easing? And good that the spots of blood have stopped. Get black loo paper is my advice! Oh, and Poppy was the wrong way round but turned quite late - around 36 weeks i think. I was told to spend some time on all fours, with my tummy hanging down, to help her turn. Looks silly, but do it a couple of times a day for a few minutes and it might help. OH, and you're nearly 29 weeks! I hope you're starting to feel a little bit more relaxed now. I know i did when i started to get near the 30 week mark.

Bookfish - the last thing you need is to worry about GD! You poor thing. But hopefully you can learn to manage it and how your body reacts to stuff soon enough. Oh, and you're 24 week!!! Well done you!!!!

Had another text from JJ yesterday. She said she thought she was going to be discharged as she's recovered well from what turned out to be a very quick labour. Baby boy is going as well as can be expected for his gestation, which is brilliant news. She didn't mention if they'd found anything that could have caused the Poly, so fingers crossed it was just one of those things and he's a healthy little boy.

I'm good. No twinges or signs of labour though. Have had a few braxton hick but nothing to get excited about. Have another UTI so off to get antibiotics again this morning. Pah! Just trying to enjoy our mini heatwave and the relative calm before a new baby arrives....

xx

 

[book.fish2011]

Thanks Kate. Am turning out to be a tragic specimen.

Am so so glad to hear JJ and the baby boy are doing well.

 

[chistiana]

Liven hope your appoitment goes really well and this watery discharge is nothing but discharge!!! Ow and that the bloody thread are just as superficial as my spotting!

Kate- thanks for the update hun, very happy for jimmy and her little boy!!! I had started to feel more relaxed before this spotting but now that doc said everything is ok i guess i get back to trying to relax again!!! No more spotting since but since i havent found that black toilet paper i am trying not to look tok much!! God i hope my lo turns too, i m just scared she wont have the space to do so due to the bu. but that s the least of my worries i guess! Hmmmmfffff and booooooo to that uti, but to look at the positive side i guess this is your last antibiotics... Yayayayayayayayay!

 

[lizziedripping]

Hi everyone.

Kate, thanks for keeping us informed about JJ. Fingers crossed lo has nothing more wrong with him except for his prematurity. At 28wks hE still has a relativel long road ahead, but 28wkers do quite well, especially those who are on the larger side. Good luck JJ, we're here if you need us x

Christi - both my boys were breech until 33wk when the larger one turned head down. Given their size and that there were two, this seemed unlikely but still happened. I think Your baby is still small enough to turn hun x

Good luck today Liven. Hope your discharge is just that x

Bf - are you making sure to cut out all sugary foods and sticking to smaller meals? The only time my bloods were raised was when I ate an orange as a snack between meals! If this is proper GD for you, it might easily be controlled with a few subtle dietary changes x

MA and Olga, haven't heard from you both in a long time - you ok? Olga, bit worried hun, thinking of you and hoping your lack of contact is nothing more than difficulty in getting Internet access xxx

 

[chistiana]

Thanks lizzie, i sure hope she turns, the doc didnt say she wouldnt but he did say he kind of doubts it because of the bicornuate uterus and lack of space. But fingers still crossed!!

 

[book.fish2011]

Hi Lizzie, does orange increase blood sugar? I didn't even know. I gave up on banana after I learned about GD but eat two oranges a day.

I haven't cut down on meal size. Do you think it's better to have smaller meals throughout the day? But will my readings be then accurate?

Am so confused. Please give me some insight on how you ate during your pg. thank you Lizzie

 

[lizziedripping]

Hi hun. I didn't really chnage my diet much because I was never one for refined sugary snacks anyway. I did tend to eat very little throughout the day tho, and than have one quite generously sized meal in the evenings. It consisted of veg, fish and potatoes so essentially healthy, but I just made it slightly smaller. I'm not sure if that helped, but if anything my bloods were on the low side after doing this. I continued with the fruit (inc. bananas and oranges), but made sure to eat them with rather than between meals. Fruit sugar will still affect the reading. Your reading might stabilise if you just make these small dietary adjustments chick, but if not then you might well have GD.

I did fail the GTT, but on doing bloods they were never high (except for the orange eating incident). Even if yours still are, I am certain you might be able to bring them down by reducing meal size and minimising sugary snacks (even fruit). Have they advised you about this at your hospital? X

 

[lizziedripping]

Hi Chris - I know it isn't the same as your bu, but my having twins might make it a similar situation size-wise, in that room is restricted due to the other baby and limited uterine stretching.

After the abnormal stretching from my big boys tho, what's betting my uterus now looks like an empty bin bag? There's probably room for a small army of babies to perform the 'cirque du soleil' in there

 

[chistiana]

Ahahahaha bless you lizzie, you made me laugh! Yes, i guess after each pg and especially after twins, our uterus stretches to accommodate just a little bit more! I had a natural delivery with ds so hope for one with dd too! Ow well, a few more weeks to know i guess!!!

 

[kateqpr]

I'm back again!

Just been to the doctors and feeling a bit crappy. I've been given amoxicillin again for what they think is a UTI, but also think the sample may have been contaminated. I'm not sure if i'm even symptomatic, which they keep on asking me, as i don't seem to get the 'normal' obvious UTI symptoms, other than eventually feeling really fluey and crap. But i have been thinking i need to wee a lot, then not a lot coming out. But then that could just be normal pregnancy bladder? Plus i do feel just 'pah' today. Weak, tired, sick. So am going to take these bloody antibiotics just in case - my fourth this pregnancy. I just hate having taken so many.

Oh, and i wake up this morning, feeling a bit sore on the side of my girl bits (the cracks of my inner thigh...). I had a look, and i have bright red sores on the skin, and it's slightly white on top. Really hurts, like the worse chaffing! I showed the doctor and she gave me cream for thrush. But then she casually mentioned it might be a strep infection, and so has sent off a swab to make sure.

Silly me has just googled strep skin infections,(big mistake) and am now worried i've got an infection which will effect my baby when she's born. And i won't get the results back until next Wednesday. I've been willing this baby to come early for the last few days, and now i'm terrified she'll come now while i might have some infection that could be passed on to her and make her ill.

Honestly, 37 weeks and STILL worrying something will go wrong. Agghhhh!!!!

Anyhoo - just needed to vent. Just feeling crabby and sore today.

END OF RANT!

 

[book.fish2011]

Hi Lizzie - strange thing is that my readings were low on first two days but then have gone up and I haven't changed my diet. My OB is scheduled me to see a nutritionist after 2 weeks.. Until then she wants me to monitor my sugar and prepare a log of all readings and my diet details. I'm to message her if a reading goes beyond 125. Today my two readings were hanging at 123 so I havent messaged her.

Kate, sorry you not having a great day today but just hang n there. You are so close