"No cry sleep solution"?

[Chel]

Who's read this book and applied it, and whats been the results, with what age babies?

I've heard it mentioned a couple of times and I went to the bookshop today and it was a quite expensive book ($35AUS - which is quite pricey for a paperback book) and as Jasper was too fussy and sooky in the bookshop I didn't have a good chance to thoroughly look it over before buying it and I just dont want to invest that much money into a book that doesn't make a difference. So I left it to think on some more.

My ONLY real challenge with Jasper is sleeping through the night. I'm going crazy and I cant handle this much longer. He's waking 3-5 times a night every night and I just think thats too many times for a 4 month old baby!

From those who've read it, how much in it related to sleeping through, is it relevant, does it work? Whats the verdict?

 

[Margerle]

All babies are different. I didn't expect Sharlotte to sleep through before she was at least 1. Of course I prayed I'd have one of those babies that sleep 8pm to 8am! Sharlotte still sleeps in shots of 6 hours MAX. Most of the time it's 4 hours...

I wouldn't use the Ferber method myself "cio" but I've heard good things about this book. You basically put baby down almost asleep after rocking or some other comforting bedtime routine, and baby learns to settle in and fall asleep all the way. This is where we're at. I never put her down wide awake, but she makes herself a bit comfy before falling completely asleep.

You respond immediately every time they cry and keep sleep logs... You learn about phases of sleep etc. I'd say get one from your library and see if you think you like it before paying that much for a book...

 

[Chel]

Ah that sucks!

I mean, its good, but thats EXACTLY how I got Jasper to self settle and I never read any books about it!

I kept a log for ages and sussed about what was 'normal' for him, I used to settled him 90% to sleep and the put him to bed, and now he falls asleep without assistance, sometime he has a little whimper and whine, but if he REALLY cries I pick him up and work out whats 'wrong', because I know he can sleep provided everything is 'right'.

I go to him AS SOON AS he cries when he wakes up also.

BUGGER! I suspected that when I read what I read from the book... I'm pretty much doing it already, so I cant see the value in paying $35 to be told what I already know.

I just dont know what to do about these night feeds!!! One thing I did read in the book when I was in the shop was about people saying that 4 month olds should 'sleep through' but what that means is sleeping 5 hours at a time... which Jasper CAN do, he just doesn't do it often!

*Fingers crossed* we're starting solids today seriously, so hopefully that makes a difference!

 

[Chel]

Also, I like to pretend that mothers who say their babies sleep from 8 to 8 or 7 to 7, or whatever it may be are just LYING!

Its the only way I get through the night!

 

[marley2580]

Have you checked your local library to see if they have it? That's where I found it initially. It's the sort of book that you're able to pick and choose which bits you want to use. It covers lots of sleep issues including sleeping through the night.

 

[Margerle]

Also, I like to pretend that mothers who say their babies sleep from 8 to 8 or 7 to 7, or whatever it may be are just LYING!

Its the only way I get through the night!

This is what I do too

I have her eating cut up regular food now too. She only gets 2 bottles (4-6 oz) per bottle a day and (though plenty of fluids in sippy cups), and she's still sleeping just 6 hours a shot max.

I have noticed though that she cycles through days that are more busy and days that are more restful... She seems to have 3-5 days of very busy not sleeping much then 2-3 days of sleeping all the time. I pray when those sleep days fall on weekends! I also try not to do a whole lot on the sleepy days so she keeps up on her sleep.



Great job mama!

 

[ryder]

Jasmine goes to bed at 6:30 or 7:00 and gets up at 6:30 or 7:00... lol.... she's been doing this for awhile. Its just this past week, that she has woken up during the night due to teething.

However... like Margerel described, I used to put her down drowsy, if she cried I would give her her soother and rub her tummy, usually she falls right asleep.

If they wake up and cry you go to them, but try not to pick them up, try and sooth them by rubbing their tummy etc.

Seems to work for us. I did notice a huge different with solids, she gets a bowls around 6:00pm, her bath and then to bed. I give her a dream feed at 10:00.

 

[Chel]

OMG! Tonight is weird.

I'm hoping this is a sign that this is the first indication that things may change with solids!

Jasper had a nice big serve of plain baby rice cereal at 5pm - topped up with boobie. Then after his bath he had a long boobie feed from about 6:45 to 7:15.

He woke at 11pm, which is really a normal time he'd be waking for a feed, but rather than screaming for a feed, he was pretty calm. My OH fetched him from bed, if he hadn't, I'd have probaby left him, but my OH was just being 'helpful'.

I offered him boobie, he did a *suck suck*.... pause.... threw up a little!

Once I'd cleaned him up he did another *suck suck* threw up a litte more!

SO I decided not to bother with the 11pm feed.

I popped him back to bed wide awake.

Not a peep from him in 20minutes, I just checked on him and he's fast asleep.

I think if my OH hadn't have gotten him up he'd probably have missed the feed completely.


*fingers crossed* come on come on!!!! PLease please please please! *toes crossed* Is this the beginning of change?!?!?!

 

[ryder]

yaay hope it continues!

 

[baby D]

Hehe - don't you just love how 'helpful' our OH can be?

Seriously, though. This could be a change as my little Amelia has just started 'skipping' her 11pm feed and has began sleeping through till around 4am! So last feed about 8, cuddle time and then bed - don't see/hear a peep till at leat 3am - normally nearer 4! Am hoping that she'll soon start going right through the night - till 6 am

Fingers crossed the change continues for you hun xx

 

[AC81]

you might find with the solids that it starts to happen anyway and he'll sleep a bit longer for you. I've started giving Erin a bit of baby rice or pureed veg for dinner around 5pm, then a bottle before bed at 6.30 and she's sleeping through until 3am... (she's waking up then at 5.30 ready to play but that's another story...)

I am really trying not to expect her to sleep through (although secretly willing and praying she will) until she's about 6-12 months. Some babies are just great from day 1 and will sleep through pretty much straight away, others take time. Hang in there, he'll get there eventually

 

[lady3]

Have you checked ebay or Amazon for used copies of the book?

 

[Freya]

Hi Chell,

Gracie is 4 months today and I'm in the same cycle of getting up 3/4 times a night, but for me it is for feeding for sure. Sadly she shows no signs of needing to be weaned so I'm 'stuck' with this until I can try something new!

SO far so good for you though, hopefully things are on the up!!

xxx

 

[1st_baby]

My son woke up 3-5 times per night at 4 months

 

[Chel]

It wasn't fantastic... but its a start (Jasper is currently sitting on my lap 'helping' me type.. so ignore any typos I miss!)

He woke for his feed at 12:30 - but that still means he went 5 and half hours between feeds... so its a step in the right direction!

He then fed at 4 and up at 7.... so the rest of the night was normal for him.

 

[sam#3]

Harry was waking like this too.
Ive just started a sleep programme that my HV told me to do, i feed harry at 10/11 when he wakes and make sure he has a good big feed then put him back down, when he wakes anytime between then and 6/7am i have to ignore him for the 1st 2 mins when he wakes then go to him, dont get him up but tuck him in give him a kiss and then go back to bed, after 4 mins do the same, then wait 6 mins etc etc and keep doing it until he falls asleep.
I was told to do this everytime he wakes in the night and to feed him when he wakes up at 6/7am time.
The 1st night i did it he woke twice, the 1st time it took 45 mins for him to sleep and the 2nd it took 30 mins. The past couple of nights since then the times are gradually reducing by about 5/10 mins each night so i think it is working.
Harry is having solids, 2 meals a day not sure if it makes a difference.
Good luck

 

[Chel]

Harry was waking like this too.
Ive just started a sleep programme that my HV told me to do, i feed harry at 10/11 when he wakes and make sure he has a good big feed then put him back down, when he wakes anytime between then and 6/7am i have to ignore him for the 1st 2 mins when he wakes then go to him, dont get him up but tuck him in give him a kiss and then go back to bed, after 4 mins do the same, then wait 6 mins etc etc and keep doing it until he falls asleep.
I was told to do this everytime he wakes in the night and to feed him when he wakes up at 6/7am time.
The 1st night i did it he woke twice, the 1st time it took 45 mins for him to sleep and the 2nd it took 30 mins. The past couple of nights since then the times are gradually reducing by about 5/10 mins each night so i think it is working.
Harry is having solids, 2 meals a day not sure if it makes a difference.
Good luck

I might try something like this... I feel like I need to try something different, but i dont want to just go in blind and let him CIO for seemingly forever...


... I'll talk it over with OH!

Keep me posted on how you go with this approach!

 

[sam#3]

I will do hun, let me know what you decide to do.
PM me if you ever fancy a chat about it xx

 

[ryder]

I agree with what sam suggested... Sometimes babies just get into the habit of waking and eating and dont really need it... You will be able to tell for yourself and your baby when he really needs it.

 

[Chel]

Tonight I'm gonna give Jasper his 11-ish feed and then I'll see if I can just give him a pat and walk away. I'll give him 10 minutes, because thats how long I give him to go to sleep, so I dont think I'd go any longer than that.

I might try to do it gently on the both of us (cos its gonna be emotional for me too!) I'll give him 10 minutes and then give him a feed if he's still crying.

Also, I've decided to try to end co-sleeping now, rather than later on, because I want to give him clearer boundries about night time. But, cos I was a bit sad about losing cuddle time, I decided I'll start giving him his last feed for the night in our bed for cuddles, then have a story in bed (which he loves, although we're limited to one book, two seems to tip the scale into being stimulating and then he starts singing or growling!) and then he can have his 7am feed in bed with us - I think that'll work nicely!

Wish me luck!

Good night!