Passport and useless FOB

[Dezireey]

Anyone have advice on this?

I am in marginal contact with FOB but I am trying to just phase him out now. Best all round for me and LO as he is a useless, negative SOB. He doesn't even acknowledge his son in e-mails and texts/ calls, avoiding the subject altogether and wanting to talk only about himself and his problems and how much he misses me and the times we had yada yada.

Just when I feel like I am getting somewhere and he is out of our lives for good, up crops something that means I have to contact him again and I am back to square one. This week I have been trying to organise LO's passport (in the UK, baby has to have his own passport apparently and can't go on mine) on the application form, it asks for FOB's passport number and date of issue. I managed to fill in the rest (his name, age, where FOB was born etc) but of course, I don't have his passport no. Kindly asked him for his passport no a few days ago, he said he would try and find it. Gets back to me today saying, he doesn't know where it is, its probably not valid etc. Strange that?? coming from someone whose 100% set and dead keen on moving to the U.S very, very soon.

Now when I wanted him to have an opinion on LO's birth cert, same sort of vague responses, he came up with some convoluted story about having a brain scan and he had things to think about and had too much on his mind.

WTF? what kind of useless tool can't just give me his passport no for the baby? Do I actually need this anyway? What about women out there who have gotten pregnant by e.g a man they don't know, like on holiday or a proper sperm donor? Surely they have to get passports for their babies and legal docs etc without FOB's permissions/info/signatures?

I am way past giving him the time of day now and I dread anything else coming up which means I have to contact him. He has no trouble with me getting in touch with him and responds immediately but try and get some kind of info to help me with something for the baby and it's like getting blood out of a stone. Can I just get on with the rest of my life without ever needing to get in touch with him for these types of things? sigh

 

[Lemonflower]

Is he on the birth certificate hun?

Fob isn't on LO's so I don't have to put his down.

xx

 

[Mummy1995]

If FOB is not on the birth certificate then as pp said, you do not need his permission

However if he's been REALLY difficult then the only way I can see you will get this is through the courts x

 

[Jade--x]

Even if he's on the birth certificate as far as I know you don't need his passport number to apply for LO's passport providing you have the rest of his information and his signature - It just makes it quicker. Not everyone has a passport when they're applying for a childs. A friend of mine isn't with FOB but they're on really good terms - She was taking LO abroad - He's too scared to fly refuses to go abroad and has never had a passport. They used all his other information but obviously not the passport number and there was no problems. That was a few years ago so things may have changed. Call the helpline and ask them just to make sure - Or ask at the post office. If he's refusing to sign it etc. then I think the only way is through the courts x

 

[Dezireey]

Is he on the birth certificate hun?

Fob isn't on LO's so I don't have to put his down.

xx

No he's not on the birth cert. But the application form for LO's passport states 'fill in all of section 4' which asks for mother and fathers details. Nothing on there about if there is a problem with that. Will have to ring them. I can't see how ( like I said) e.g.a woman who maybe doesn't know the father of her kid can fill in that section? You must be able to skip that bit in that sort of circumstance as well surely?

A friend of mine said they can be a bit funny at the passport office because they have to think of the rights of fathers who don't want mothers buggering off abroad with their kids without their knowledge or permission. I suppose they have a point but there must be some exceptions?

 

[pinkreality]

Fill out only your information, since he's not on the birth certificate his signature and passport information is not needed. If you go into the office just say you dn't know where he is but im pretty sure they won't even ask you. He is nobody if hes not on the birth certificate.

 

[Fraggles]

Im going to apply without fob details even with him on the birth certificate I dont know where he lives and havent had contact in a few years now

 

[Fraggles]

This is off their website

If the parents are not married to each other, the mother can give permission. If the father is not married to the child's mother (and is not divorced from her as described above), he can give permission only if:
he has a parental responsibility order or agreement (in which case he should send this with the application)
he is named on the birth certificate and the birth was jointly registered on or after 15 April 2002 in Northern Ireland, 1 December 2003 in England and Wales, 4 May 2006 in Scotland

so a mum can do it alone but the dad cant unless he meets the criteria

 

[ravenmel]

My LO's dad is on her birth certificate but I just filled in the passport form with my info only no passport number or signature from dad and everything was fine.

 

[Dezireey]

Thanks guys, I've sent it off now with just my info and a nice lady at the passport office said it was no problem so big fuss over nothing.