People selling their WIC formula

[Jaylynne]

We don't have a WIC program. However, if I was given free formula you bet your bottom dollar I would sell it on. It will only get thrown away like perfectly good food is at the supermarket when it's a day past best before. I'd rather make sure I knew definitely that the formula was going somewhere it was needed.

For wic you have to state you're using it personally and have to sign that unused unopen cans get returned.


From the wic website
7. What is the WIC infant formula rebate system?

Mothers participating in WIC are encouraged to breastfeed their infants if possible, but WIC State agencies provide infant formula for mothers who choose to use this feeding method. WIC State agencies are required by law to have competitively bid infant formula rebate contracts with infant formula manufacturers. This means WIC State agencies agree to provide one brand of infant formula and in return the manufacturer gives the State agency a rebate for each can of infant formula purchased by WIC participants. The brand of infant formula provided by WIC varies by State agency depending on which company has the rebate contract in a particular State.

By negotiating rebates with formula manufacturers, States are able to serve more people. For FY 2010, rebate savings were $1.7 billion, supporting an average of 1.9 million participants each month, or 20.5 percent of the estimated average monthly caseload.

 

[Jaylynne]

It's like stocking up at a food pantry and selling what you shouldn't have taken. It's wrong.

 

[Insectile]

We get so much extra formula with WIC. I dont sell the extra, but I never bothered to return it either. My cousin also needed WIC and got a ton of extra. She gave several cans to me before I applied to the program. I've never asked what they do with the returned formula. Do they donate it to local food banks? Sell it themselves for extra money? Keep it for mothers who need it but havent gotten their first checks yet?

(I get way too much regular milk with my checks too. Im not a big milk drinker, so four gallons a milk each month is a lot. I never manage to get to that last gallon before it expires. I wish I could request they cut back on the milk and increase the fruit/vegetable amounts.)

Off topic a bit, but what bugs me more is people buying garbage items with their food stamps. I use EBT/food stamps also, and I use them to go grocery shopping. My shopping list will include a few snacks, but its not total junk. I used to work in a convenience store and it just irked me when people came in and loaded up on $40 worth of chips, pop, ice cream bars, and candy then pulled out the EBT card. Then at the end of the month they'd be counting pennies and bumming money.

 

[flibbrtygibbt]

Agreed. I watched a documentary about poverty in Eastern Kentucky/Appalachia. When they asked kids what they wanted to do when they grew up, nearly all of them said "to draw": meaning draw a welfare check. Cuz that's all their parents do. ANGERED

Wow that is beyond rediculous! Those are the type that ruin it and make it hard for those who need it to get assistance. I def have no problem with assisting those in need, but those who scam the system and are completely lazy living off the government make me so mad!

To OP, I'm so glad you turned her in! People need to know that's not ok to take advantage of the help they are being given.

I gt so mad when they do this crap about Kentucky. Makes us all look stupid and lazy and like we have no teeth.

I live in a neighboring state and understand the stigma.
I saw the special they were talking about though.
It was set deep into Appalachia.
They didnt try to make it out to be the whole state
I dont k now why they picked KY instead of WV

 

[summer rain]

When they had the old milk tokens here where you could walk into a clinic or some limited range of pharmacies and get a full tin of formula for free; yes some women did used to sell it then also. I knew a mum who was combi feeding and didn't like drinking regular full fat milk herself (the only other thing the milk tokens could 'buy' back then), and the tokens had a very short expiry like a week or something so she'd get more formula than she needed, give away the odd tin to relatives who were FF and sell the rest. I believe it is one huge reason they changed the system to money off coupons instead xx

 

[robinator]

I gt so mad when they do this crap about Kentucky. Makes us all look stupid and lazy and like we have no teeth.

Off topic a bit, but what bugs me more is people buying garbage items with their food stamps. I use EBT/food stamps also, and I use them to go grocery shopping. My shopping list will include a few snacks, but its not total junk. I used to work in a convenience store and it just irked me when people came in and loaded up on $40 worth of chips, pop, ice cream bars, and candy then pulled out the EBT card. Then at the end of the month they'd be counting pennies and bumming money.

Back to the documentary.....your no teeth comment reminded me of another part of it....

The did a section on a traveling dentist who donates his time and skill to kids in the region. Nearly all the parents put Mountain Dew in their kids bottles, and by the time they are two years old, many kids teeth have rotted to the point they all have to be extracted. This dentist would do the extraction and implants free of charge.

It was horrible to see all these babies drinking soda, and the parents did it because they were raised on it, too and because it's cheap, like insectile was talking about.

It is such an epidemic that Pepsi released a statement that "Mountain Dew Mouth", as dentists refer to it as, is not a result of their marketing to lower income people.

 

[Randianne]

I gt so mad when they do this crap about Kentucky. Makes us all look stupid and lazy and like we have no teeth.

Off topic a bit, but what bugs me more is people buying garbage items with their food stamps. I use EBT/food stamps also, and I use them to go grocery shopping. My shopping list will include a few snacks, but its not total junk. I used to work in a convenience store and it just irked me when people came in and loaded up on $40 worth of chips, pop, ice cream bars, and candy then pulled out the EBT card. Then at the end of the month they'd be counting pennies and bumming money.

Back to the documentary.....your no teeth comment reminded me of another part of it....

The did a section on a traveling dentist who donates his time and skill to kids in the region. Nearly all the parents put Mountain Dew in their kids bottles, and by the time they are two years old, many kids teeth have rotted to the point they all have to be extracted. This dentist would do the extraction and implants free of charge.

It was horrible to see all these babies drinking soda, and the parents did it because they were raised on it, too and because it's cheap, like insectile was talking about.

It is such an epidemic that Pepsi released a statement that "Mountain Dew Mouth", as dentists refer to it as, is not a result of their marketing to lower income people.

Whaaaat? I can't believe anyone would give that to a baby! I wonder if it's an education issue or if they do it because it's cheap. Or both.

What's the name of the documentary? I'm intrigued.

I live in Oklahoma. Every time we have a tornado that makes the national news they find the most redneck person around and have them talk about the 'Nader that done near tore the ruff off our hoss.' And they will include subtitles.

 

[Dk1234]

As far as I'm concerned mountain dew isn't cheap. Uh ever heard of give your kids water???? It's free. Dumb hillbillies!!!! Sorry I feel like I can say that since I'm from Kentucky. Just so you all know this is like a VERY small portion of the population in Eastern Kentucky. I dated a guy from about as far east as you get and he had all his teeth his family wasnt poor and they never tried to sell me formula ha ha! Just had to throw that in.

 

[robinator]

I'm sorry, I don't remember - I saw it about a year or so ago.

 

[robinator]

As far as I'm concerned mountain dew isn't cheap. Uh ever heard of give your kids water???? It's free. Dumb hillbillies!!!! Sorry I feel like I can say that since I'm from Kentucky. Just so you all know this is like a VERY small portion of the population in Eastern Kentucky. I dated a guy from about as far east as you get and he had all his teeth his family wasnt poor and they never tried to sell me formula ha ha! Just had to throw that in.

I thought that about water, too!

 

[Dk1234]

Ok can't believe I'm saying this but have y'all ever heard of the blue people. They're in eastern Kentucky and west Virginia way up in the mountains and they are so cut off from the world that they inbreed. They are so inbred that their skin is literally blue tinted. Now that's some crazy crap!

 

[flibbrtygibbt]

As far as I'm concerned mountain dew isn't cheap. Uh ever heard of give your kids water???? It's free. Dumb hillbillies!!!! Sorry I feel like I can say that since I'm from Kentucky. Just so you all know this is like a VERY small portion of the population in Eastern Kentucky. I dated a guy from about as far east as you get and he had all his teeth his family wasnt poor and they never tried to sell me formula ha ha! Just had to throw that in.

LOL Ohhh sure get it close to WV so you can blame us???
J/K

 

[flibbrtygibbt]

It was a Dianne Sawyer thing I believe it was something like Hidden America Children of Appalachia or Children of the mountians or something like that

 

[flibbrtygibbt]

https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=6845770&page=1

Google is awesome

 

[flibbrtygibbt]

Ok can't believe I'm saying this but have y'all ever heard of the blue people. They're in eastern Kentucky and west Virginia way up in the mountains and they are so cut off from the world that they inbreed. They are so inbred that their skin is literally blue tinted. Now that's some crazy crap!

I have heard of them but have never actually seen one.
DH a WV boy all his life swears they are urban legend

 

[MegnJoe]

Copy the page, save it, turn it in at the WIC office.

 

[Jaylynne]

I've heard of bluegrass but blue skin?! Seriously? Ugh are they smurfs? Would explain the inbreeding if they only have smurfette

 

[jenniferttc1]

We don't have a WIC program. However, if I was given free formula you bet your bottom dollar I would sell it on. It will only get thrown away like perfectly good food is at the supermarket when it's a day past best before. I'd rather make sure I knew definitely that the formula was going somewhere it was needed.

Technically you are not given it. You get a certain amount and you go to the store and buy them. If you do not need them, youdo not get the formula to sell to others. If you don't use the money, the money at the end of the month goes back to WIC it does not roll over to the next month. I don't see why any woman would go to the store to buy formula not needed (that many cans shows she did not need them, its not like she had only 2 cans left and was getting rid of them) but to only sell them for money.

 

[Dragonfly]

What the actual fuck. A person is committing fraud and trying to purposefully scam the system depriving others of much needed assistance and people are rushing to say not to judge?! Sorry, but I don't see how this is in any way shape or form acceptable.

I will judge you. I will turn you in. It's WRONG and FRAUD. Let those who truly need to feed themselves and their babies have the assistance. It's not there to make a buck. People like that piss me off.

Judge away everyone does it to everyone , I am not telling you not to. Never said it was right for her to do just throwing in some points for discussion.

Just curious, but why do you tend to assume people are singling you out?? You're not the only one saying it I'll have to go back and find your post because I honestly don't remember what you wrote. I think I was too stunned by the apathy of some.

I didnt think you where singling me out. I didnt even think you spoke to me. I dont care what someone else thinks of what I do I was throwing in some things for discussion earlier.

 

[robinator]

I've heard of bluegrass but blue skin?! Seriously? Ugh are they smurfs? Would explain the inbreeding if they only have smurfette

Dr. Phil's wife's teeth are bleached to the point they have a bluish tint. OT?

Blue skin is bizarre. I just googled images. Verrrrrry strange...........