sorry for butting in, Undescended testicles question?

[luckdragon]

My oh,

has undescended testicles, they were not noticed when he was a child, and they only found out about them when he was 14 and in a lot of pain with his abdomen.

it was on both sides.

I don't think he even relises what effect this might have had on his fertility and I only found out yesterday when someone else was telling me about thir ivf.

has anyone elses oh, or dh got this? and will we ever have children? feeling a bit low right now

xxxx

 

[MariaF]

So did he have an operation at 14, when they discovered it?

One of my DH's testicles was undescended but he was operated on when he was 3 or 4...basically young.

He has no sperm issues...may be morphology could be a bit better. But before he got tested the FS did say he's almost certain there will be issues.

So not really sure what to say - it could go either way. Has your OH had an SA?

 

[luckdragon]

hi hun,

yes he had the op when he was 14 to put them back down but they are very small and still dont seem in the right place to me (what do i know)

No he hasnt had a sa. I havnt acutualy broached this subject with him yet, he still assumes we will concieve natrualy. No one has ever told hom about undescended testicles and the link with fertility. His mum never said anything about it :-S it's been on my mind for days now

 

[Kristin83]

My hubby had both undescended...and surgery to fix them when he was 2

We TTC for 2 years before going to a FS, and when he had a SA done it was shown he has a very low count (0.2million and normal is 20mil or higher). He was referred to a urologist to be checked (our urologist specialized in male infertility) and he said his low count was atrophied testicles due to them being undescended...We went through IVF and it worked on the first try

Not to freak you out because its not the same with everyone like Maria's example shows...but thats my story Good luck with everything!

 

[Deb111]

As someone who's trying to look for ways forward with a hubby who has a sperm count of zero, I would urge you to try to get him to have a SA done.

I'm not trying to worry you, and my hubby's issue has nothing to do with undescended testicles, but if there is a problem, trust me, the sooner you find out the better. If there is an issue, it really doesn't mean it's the end for you having a family -there are lots of treatments and options and it may just mean IVF.

Good luck hun xx

 

[Tarkwa]

Hi luckdragon, can I ask a question? How long have you been TTC? It's standard practice when you get referred to a FS (usually after ~1yr) for both partners to be tested (if the GP hasn't already done this). My DH was referred to a urologist to check him out (one undescended) and although his SA wasn't great (not low but could have been higher), the urologist (lovely guy!) wasn't at all concerned (and from his results was quite surprised when he examined him and only found one!). My DH has never had surgery, but he's coping just fine (and it doesn't bother me!). I'm a bit miffed at my MIL though - surely she should have done something about it when he was little !
xxx

 

[dreamofabean]

Hi Hun, my dh had both testicles undescended. He had the op at two and one was brought down and one removed. His Sa was pretty bad. Slightly low count but morphology was dreadful. We've been referred for Icsi but also going to see a urologist incase there is a varicocele. Our fs said that the earlier the op, the less chance of it affecting fertility. We have been ttc for just over a year but I had gynae issues to start with so we've been lucky that we were seen straight away. I'd suggest your oh sees his gp and gets an Sa done so you know. Considering his history they shouldn't refuse one. We wasted ten months treating me with clomid etc when it was useless as his swimmers too poor, don't make our mistake!
Best of luck honey xxx

 

[luckdragon]

thank you for all your replies guys. We havnt actualy been ttc for long, and oh is rather embarassed to discuss his problem, but after a long chat yesterday he has agreed if nothing happens after a few more months he will go to the drs for a SA.
I know they say to leave it a year, but i just feel we will be wasting time leaving it.

the sad thing is he didn't even know that it could have affected his fertility until i told him

his mum just told him he was fine and he's never assumed otherwise.

 

[dreamofabean]

It's tough isn't it as my dh was told he'd prob be fine but unfortunately not. With his history they shouldn't argue over doing a Sa! X

 

[luckdragon]

It's tough isn't it as my dh was told he'd prob be fine but unfortunately not. With his history they shouldn't argue over doing a Sa! X

yep. And it makes me wonder how he must be feeling about it too

after being told he would be normal at the age of 15, they clearly didn't explain much. it must have done something to him becasue his testicles both shrunk to barely anything :-S

 

[countrylass]

If a guy had an undescended testicle, and had surgery during childhood, would that have an impact on the overall size of the testicle in adulthood?

I feel dumb for even asking the question, but for years I always thought that my OH just had small testicles. Then, after having a bit of a "furtle" around one day, I realised that he has a smallish testicle and a real tiny testicle. He's very sensitive about the subject, and all I know is that he had an operation during childhood.
In fact, I don't think he even knows what operation he had, just that he had some kind of minor surgery in the genital area.
A few months ago his Mom brought up the subject of the surgery, and OH went crazy at her, so she promised to tell me when he's not around. But as she lives 300 miles away, catching up is difficult!

I may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5, but from what I read of undescended testicles, it affects 30% of premature born boys. OH was born 9 wks early. So it's got me wondering.

 

[Kristin83]

i think it would make sense especially if they didn't do the surgery till he was 14....the tissue would have atrophied and not grown so they probably would be smaller...I'm glad that he is open to a SA if nothing happens in a few months

 

[luckdragon]

yeah i guess we will just wait and see now. at least i know about it before we even start so we don't get too wound up if nothing happens when we ttc normaly!
i'm guessing that if they were left in his abdomen for that lengh of time there will be at least some damage done, but i wouldnt be suprised if he he's completly azoospermic

 

[Kristin83]

Stay positive! don't stress about it too much bc it can make the trying no fun!!

 

[luckdragon]

just to update you all, we have now started tests. i've had some bloods and dh is going for a semen analysis tomorrow!! it's going to be the longest wait ever to get the results

 

[MariaF]

Good luck! As I said my DH had his op when he was 4 or 5 or so and it didn't affect his swimmers. Although one of his testicles is only half the size of the other!

Luckily he's cool about it and has no problem discussing it with anyone really - just jokes around about it.

But I can see how it can be a very sensitive issue.

 

[luckdragon]

yeah, DH has one smaller than the other. poor guy. His SA is tomorrow morning at 8.30am eek i'm praying there will be at least some sperm to do ivf with. fingers crossed. xx

 

[nouxie79]

My oh,

has undescended testicles, they were not noticed when he was a child, and they only found out about them when he was 14 and in a lot of pain with his abdomen.

it was on both sides.

I don't think he even relises what effect this might have had on his fertility and I only found out yesterday when someone else was telling me about thir ivf.

has anyone elses oh, or dh got this? and will we ever have children? feeling a bit low right now

xxxx

Hi

My OH had undescended testicules n they were both corrected at 6 years old
When he did a sa he was told they was zero sperm n 2nd sa they was a few non motile sperms!
He's going thru some more tests n we were told by his andrologist that undescended testes r the reason for his zero sperms!
Our only option to conceive is via IVF/ICSI with a sperm surgical retrieval but we were also told that they might not find anything during the SSR or they might not be good sperms and to start thinking abt using a donor!
We will not think abt the latter until we hv exhausted all options!

Hope n pray for u that yr OH sample is not as bad! It's the hardest thing to ever deal with but i kind of got used to it now n my thinking is whatever will b will b! N it's Not OH fault n no one is to blame!

 

[luckdragon]

eeeek i guess i'll be letting you all know in about 10 days then (thats how long we were told it would be to get the results)
hmmm :-S

 

[lbm2009]

My husband had undefended testicles that were corrected when he was about 2. This unforunately has caused all our problems. He has no sperm and what he has got are dead. He has one normal testicle and one that s smaller this one is not fully formed and therefore doesn't function. We have come to a stand still because I am overweight but I wish they would look into whether they can correct his problem that way we maybe wouldn't need ivf. If they can repair the damage to the tube or free up the blockage. They haven't even looked at him all they have done is a sa. I have had loads of invasive tests and now it's on me to loose weight, I can't understand why they aren't looking into my husbands problem more. It is so frustrating.