Stressing about boys names - touchy subject??

[kizzyt]

TBH Jayden is a fairly new name, so not one that's come up on TV progs etc over the years, my sis in law has a nephew called Jayden and he was the first person I have heard called it but its becoming more popular. If you like it, stick with it, I think sometimes people say things are chavvy because they are common, if that makes sense, as in they are popular and of the time, it doesnt make them chavvy it just means there's a lot of babies called it at a certain time x

 

[YorkieMom]

The other thing is, that our son will be half brown and half white, so I want a name that suits him. My huband's dad (who passed away when my hubby was 3) was a name that I can't pronouce, but it started with "Jay..." and my husband's mom's new married name also starts with "Jay"

 

[kizzyt]

Yeah Tracy/Sharon etc defo have connotations as Essex girl names (and I am an Essex girl so I know ) and I think chavvy names have been brought more to the fore because of programmes depicting people with those names to be chavs, you know? so Bird of a Feather, Eastenders, Harry Enfield (Wayne and Watnetta) etc made some names very chavvy. But also sometimes the names a celeb calls their baby can be chavvy too, especially if the celeb in question is considered a chav (think Z listers, reality TV stars etc). Plus for me, I know amongst my friends people with names of wine, cars, objects etc are defo considered chavvy (Chardonnay, Mercedes etc). I dont think chavs necessarily have to be poor people there's a lot of rich chavs about too (think Jordan for example), its more about not having much class. But again everyone's interpretation is different. Personally I'd say if the name's in the top 10/20 or whatever its not deemed chavvy, more popular!

Ha!! my first name is Sharon (i go by my middle name though) So does that mean I have a chavy name?! sorry this is just so interesting to me!

It means you're an honorary Essex girl - which is good in my book

 

[Kittifer]

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[magicbubble]

oh gosh yes i think celebrities can be the worst for picking chavvy names. i worry too about a name we choose sounding chavvy. i just think the child has to live with their name and im thinking long term, when they apply for jobs etc. a name can make such an impression that we may not initially realise.

i think this is why so far i have said 'no' to nearly every boys name i can think of. i just cant find one i like.

 

[magicbubble]

Calling someone a chav is much like calling someone a hick or something I think. It's less to do with the name, a lot more to do with the behaviour and their likes/dislikes.

Someone who uses a lot of fake tan, loves Jordan, and dresses in a... particular way, will be called chav, regardless of name.

Once again, seriously hoping to not offend - it's a stereotype, much like the English only drink tea and eat crumpets

i would just love a nice cup of tea and a cream scone right now

 

[lesleyann]

My friends son is called Jayden his what would be called halfcast I guess, mum is white dad is black. I dont so much care for the name but it suits him

 

[babyhopesxx]

To me there's a difference between 'chavvy' and 'common' names and i would rather my child had a common name rather than chavvy. Chavvy names are taken after cars, drinks, celebs etc. And common names are like connor, chloe, sophie, tyler etc which aren't chavvy imo but are used often.
Having said that if i saw a young mum with about 10 kids shouting at the school gates with a fag in one hand and can of fosters in the other her kids would be chavvy no matter what they are called
I think Jayden is a really nice name, not chavvy imo but definately becoming more used now

But yeah, a cuppa and a cream scone would be lovely now, haha

 

[mrs_lukey]

Jayden is not a chavvy name!! It is quite a modern name but I can't see any reason why it would cause any problems for your son in the future!!

I say name him what you want to hun - if you and your OH agree then that is all that matters!!

 

[janey1975]

I think you just don't know what will be considered a chavvy name once he grows up. Names like Tracy, Sharon, Wayne etc were not considered chavvy or 'essex' until after people had already called their children that name. I know because I am called Tracey and I am from Essex and when I was named Tracey it was not considerd an 'essex girl' name as this had not been invented as a stereotype (and it is a stereotype as I am an academic, so don't fit the label).

So, what I am trying to say is go with a name you like as you have not way of knowing how it will be perceived and your child will achieve what they want to in life, regardless of the name you give them. In fact, I think having a stereotypical name has meant I have been careful to ensure I don't fit the stereotype.

Good luck with whatever you chose. It's so hard choosing a name, particularly a boys name (we are still not sure at the moment and I am due in 5 days!)

 

[Destiny08]

i think Jayden is a lovely name. and to be honest, i think any name can have a chavvy connotation to it - for example, Lizzy. I know lots of people named Lizzy. but I knew a chav called Lizzy at school, so to me, Lizzy has a chavvy connotation to it! but i know to most people it doesnt
I'd say stick with Jayden, Its a really nice name, and i dont think it sounds chavvy at all

 

[mrs_lukey]

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i would just love a nice cup of tea and a cream scone right now [/QUOTE]

Hahaha I just made scones this morning and had some with cream and jam just now

 

[babyhopesxx]

i would just love a nice cup of tea and a cream scone right now [/QUOTE]

Hahaha I just made scones this morning and had some with cream and jam just now [/QUOTE]

Oh yum, think i may have to go out and buy some scones (i can't really bake cakes and scones, lol)
I've just had a cup of coffee and polished off half a pack of maryland cookies it's the next best thing. lol.

 

[Librastar2828]

its hard to tell because i think chavy names are assosiated with what we call chavy people... SO if someone chavy happens to be called a particular name then yes that name will be then seen as chavy...

When you said the name i did honestly think it sounds a bit chavy but thats because of the relation to britney (isnt her son called that) and like others have said its when celebs, tv shows ect are in bad press that names then are judged on that particular person and situation.

I think with names and schools and teasing ect its so long till our kids go to school that anything can happen to assosiate the name with something else and former views and opinions will be forgotten about.

It seems to be as well the more unusual names that are creeping up in popularity like Jayden, Tyler, Lexi, Alfie, are seen as chav names compared to the popular ones that have been around for ages like James, Jack, ect. ( if that makes sense)

Personally i wouldnt cal my child this name even though i quite like it just because of the connection to britney and its become more popular since then..

 

[First.timer]

i think there are some names which are considered chavvy names no matter what - but given that your not english it makes it totally different, i hate to say im as guilty as the rest with stereotyping but if i met an english woman called chardonnay i would probably assume she was a bit chavvy - if i met an american woman called chardonnay (as an example) i wouldnt catagorise it the same way.....i dont know! i dont think jayden is massively chavvy anyway to me its more american anyway. Just go for it - at the end of the day - you arent chavvy! so it doesnt matter! x

 

[Rachel_C]

My friends son is called Jayden his what would be called halfcast I guess, mum is white dad is black. I dont so much care for the name but it suits him

I'm sure you didn't know but just so you do know in future, a lot of people would consider 'half caste' to be a very offensive term. Somebody once used that term in front of me and my daughter (who is half white, half Asian) and I just about exploded at them . People tend to prefer 'mixed race' or 'dual heritage' although they still don't please everybody. It's probably better just to say 'white mum, black dad' or whatever

Great poem about it - https://www.bbc.co.uk/learningzone/clips/john-agard-half-caste/10299.html

 

[K4tiemay]

Jaden is a biblical name I think, Jayden's just a new way of spelling it. There's no way you can pick something less common for a boy and not invite someone's distaste. I don't know which celeb has a child called Jayden, so it's not quite like picking Brooklyn or Apple and everyone knowing where you got it from. I think you should just go with what you like the best.

My dad told me that he thought our baby girls name was terrible - but he'll get over it

I find chav such an offensive term, ironically no one actually deems themselves a chav at all, its just a way of people looking down their nose at someone else, someone without the social advantages that they themselves have experienced - unfortunately everyone likes to feel better than someone.

 

[alasia]

Not sure about 'chavvy', but I think Jayden is getting really common now - at my son's nursery there were 3 boys (not related) called Jayden, Kayden and Hayden which made me a bit...just put me off those names and names sounding similar, lol.

It's weird because my younger brother is called Aidan and I think that's a nice name, maybe some people would think that name is chavvy I don't know, but I don't; yet really it's just Jayden without the 'J'.

And ooh half cast....haven't heard that term used since I was a child living on a rough council estate that was quite racist! I think it's an awful, outdated term but not picking at the person who used it, I'm sure it was just a slip of the tongue

 

[Periwinkle]

My friends son is called Jayden his what would be called halfcast I guess, mum is white dad is black. I dont so much care for the name but it suits him

I'm sure you didn't know but just so you do know in future, a lot of people would consider 'half caste' to be a very offensive term. Somebody once used that term in front of me and my daughter (who is half white, half Asian) and I just about exploded at them . People tend to prefer 'mixed race' or 'dual heritage' although they still don't please everybody. It's probably better just to say 'white mum, black dad' or whatever

Great poem about it - https://www.bbc.co.uk/learningzone/clips/john-agard-half-caste/10299.html

Its funny. My cousin is mixed race and I was always brought up to use the term 'half caste', my cousin and aunt used it too. I've spoken to a few other people in similar situations and have concluded that not many people realise yet that its now considered offensive.

 

[Michelle773]

I'm a teacher and every year, when we get our new class lists, we joke about how challenging a class will be based on the numbers students called Jordan, Kyle and Lewis. It never ever turns out the way you expect (some of the nicest, brightest kids I taught last year were called those names - as were some of the horrors). Choose a name because you love it - not for any other reason. Someone, somewhere will always judge but let’s face it - who really cares about them anyway??