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A man collapses on the tube and people clamour to either get off the train or move further down. It takes a full 5 minutes for someone to intervene which for anyone who knows the underground system feels more like a day considering the number of people that pass through. He was also ignored by two off-duty staff.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-tube-commuters-ignore-collapsed-man-62978
 
That's terrible!! :( hope the man's ok

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Not to sound harsh but it seems a little set up? Why would someone be recording him in the first place?
 
Not to sound harsh but it seems a little set up? Why would someone be recording him in the first place?

Because, everyone these days walks around with smartphones and everything is taped. From racist attacks on trains to suicides on bridges.
 
There is a lack of empathy these days.... this lack of empathy dosnt just come from no where either. :cry: I seen this happen many times, set up or not its the same results. Even for kids hit in public no one cares.
 
I don't buy this video, why was someone randomly recording the train, ok people record things AFTER something has happened but not before. I live in London and see people helping each other on the tube all the time, only the other day a man slipped on the train and people helped him up, I really don't think this amount of people would ignore it without good reason. I'm not niave I know it isn't as friendly here, but I have more hope than to believe this video personally :)
 
Not to sound harsh but it seems a little set up? Why would someone be recording him in the first place?

Because, everyone these days walks around with smartphones and everything is taped. From racist attacks on trains to suicides on bridges.

Makes me sick people would rather record things than help:nope:
I find it amusing in emergency situations that have happened on sinking cruise liners and plane crashes people seem to find thier phones and spend more time recording the event than getting themselves out.
A rather depressing product of technology these days!!

On a tangent, my mum broke her ankle in 3 places, been in hospital for a week and is feeling a bit hopeless right now being at home unable to do anything for herself. She did it going to the post office for the stupid fat lazy man across the road from her , goes most days on errands for him, does sewing and baking for the lady next door. Has actually broken in to the other guys house next door as she could see a bottle off tablets fallen next to him through the window and he wouldn't wake up. Turned out he was just drunk but he was very grateful for the concern!
Not one of them have been over to see if she needs anything, not even tom make her a cuppa.I'm so fricking mad:growlmad:
 
Tbh nothing surprises me anymore, I heard the man who filmed it was in a wheelchair and couldn't help, not sure how true the whole thing is though. But in saying that when I was 8mths pregnant with dd2 on crutches I fell in our town centre, there was loads of people around from all different walks of life and not one person helped me even though it took me ages to get back up :cry:or even asked if I was okay
 
To be honest I think the guy recording it is the worst of the lot. And it's not technology that's so much to blame it's the media that will pay a hell of a lot for candid videos from the public of tragic events from a witnesses point of view. It says he wanted to do more but was with his kids - But you were able to hang around and have your children stand around to record it?! Bull.
 
I remember I got beat up when I was 12, 6 girls all old thern me even ones at 18. Loads of people in the street stood and watched, left me lying there covered in blood. I rememver opening my eyes when they walked off and looking at all the people on the other side of the road standing gauping at me and walking away. I knew some of them to. I got up and dragged myself with a cracked wrist and busted face to the side of the road where my aunt happened to be driving past and pulled in and took me to hospital. Later in I gave names of the people who seen the incident, they where locals. All denied seeing anything and wanted nothing to do with it.
 
To be fair, the bystander effect is a very powerful thing. I found myself in an emergency situation maybe a month after my first Social Psycholgy course, where we studied the bystander effect in depth, and I STILL found myself thinking "Someone else has probably already helped..." I did end up calling 911 myself, but left it A LOT longer than I ever would have thought.

A lot of times it has nothing to do with lack of empathy, but rather people's perceived lack responsibilty to do something in the situation.
 
I was having this convo with my OH the other night. I was walking in to town and there was a little old lady collapsed on the floor infront of a HUGE busy coffee shop. No one went to help other then myself. Obviously pregnant, heaving this lady up and helping her with her bag ect and not one single bugger helped. They all watched! but no one helped. I was fuming and she was so lovely!
 
I this I it was probably a set up and the people around them could see that hence why no one helped.
 
The bystander effect at its finest... Anyone remember what happened to Kitty Genovese?

It's such a shame that we have become so desensitized. I blame it on technology.
 
It is shocking how people can see something and just do absolutely nothing :(
 
This reminds me of something that happened to me. A couple of years ago we had really bad snow and ice for weeks where I lived. I lived on the same road as the doctors surgery and one day just happened to see an old man (must have been 75+) fall over in the middle of the road outside the doctor. It was really icy and slippery and he couldn't get back up. I ran out to help him and as I was crouched down trying to get him back up (it was slippy and he was a big guy, not fat but very tall and big built) a car came round the corner, stopped, and BEEPED at me! Then they beeped again and drove around us and I struggled for a good couple of minutes whilst loads of people walked past and more cars drove around us until a receptionist from the doctor happened to walk out of the surgery and she came and helped and we walked the man back to his car. I came home and cried and cried that people would be so callous. Needless to say I don't live there any more!
 
I'm not surprised at all that this happened. A few weeks ago I was walking down a street with Ivy and noticed that people kept peering into one house and then walking past, so as I went up to it I had a look in and there was an old man lying face down in his corridor with the front door wide open, like he had opened it to try and get some help but collapsed :nope: I called paramedics and waited with him for about 15 minutes, it really didn't take much time out of my day - I can't believe anyone would ignore something like that but people do. I grew up in London and have seen stuff like this happen a lot. My friends once got beaten up by a group of girls when they were 13, at a central London train station at 4pm in the afternoon. The only person who tried to intervene was a pregnant woman!
 
To be fair, the bystander effect is a very powerful thing. I found myself in an emergency situation maybe a month after my first Social Psycholgy course, where we studied the bystander effect in depth, and I STILL found myself thinking "Someone else has probably already helped..." I did end up calling 911 myself, but left it A LOT longer than I ever would have thought.

A lot of times it has nothing to do with lack of empathy, but rather people's perceived lack responsibilty to do something in the situation.

I do agree with this too actually - I also think sometimes people can't tell if a situation needs intervention and don't want to embarrass themselves. I think it is quite a British mentality.
 
I initially thought, wow that is an absolute disgrace no one is helping. But then I got a bit suspicious as to why someone was just filming a seemingly normal tube situation.... I don't know whether it was set up.
 
Even If it is set up, stuff like this happens in London all the time.
 

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