URGENT advice need for 1st miscarriage & ovulation

[baba123]

I'm sorry for posting again, but i'm not sure if the actual test result is positive for sure. The reason i say this is because to have a positive the test window (square) has to be the same as or darker than the control window (round).

I'm not 100% sure as to me, the test window is slightly lighter than the control window, so i'm posting these 2 pictures for you girls to decide:-

https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8669/dsc01929cb5.jpg

https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3007/dsc01930ls2.jpg

Also i have had a 0.4 degress temperature drop. This could be because of ovulation or maybe because i woke up at 4.30am and did a bbt test.


Any advice will be much appreciated.

thanks

 

[baba123]

i've just gone and bought a clearblue ovulation test which shows more clearly the results with eithier a smily circle face (LH SURGE) or an empty circle (NO LH SURGE). I've tested and it shows the empty circle ....so therefore the previous test must be incorrect.

 

[millymolly]

Hi Baba123

Just wanted to say good luck with the TTC.

Unfortunately, I haven't used OPK but have used BBT with NFP. My cycles have been wonky since mc in May, my first AF at end of May was long (2wks) and second at beginning of July was short (5 days) but I've had lots of spotting which is a concern. I have felt OV pain and scan shows I'm OV so I am trying to be positive! I'm now on CD10. My temp is still low (and it can change if you take at different time from normal) and no OV pain yet this cycle but hoping something happens in the next few days as last cycle I had OV pain on day 12 and 13??? Do you just do BBT or record other changes?

All the books I have on Fertility etc say its best not to try and time BD'ing but instead to have lots of and so BD every 2 days. As I'm not that accurate at the mo on date of OV I try to try BD'ing every other day from when I stop AF until day CD 16 as my cycles tend to be 28 days. I know we all want to time it right to give us best possible chance of getting that but experts have also said that us females can get too stressed about timing and then it gets difficult to enjoy Sperm lasts 2-3 days so the best chances of are BD during the five days leading up to OV so that the are there waiting and ready to do their work as the egg only lasts those 24 hours approx.

Hope this helps but apologies if I am "teaching my grandmother to suck eggs" as they say

Best wishes xxx

 

[baba123]

many thanks millymolly for that brilliant info. You must be wondering why i'm trying to time when i simply have to BD every now and then. The reason is that i was to give my body as much time as possible to heal, whilst trying to aim BDing during ovulation.

Do you think that sounds silly???

 

[baba123]

i woke up at 4:30 in the moring i dont know why, i think it was bc of doing the temp the first thing in the morning was on my mind so i though i might forget to do the temp at 7:30 when i normally wake up so i decided to temp at 4:30.
i have had no cm up untill now, 30mins ago i had watery cm and i normally get this when im just about to ovulate. i think the only thing i trust is the my cm as this is quite a good indicater of ovulation.
i normally ovulate around day12-14 and i am going to do the opt every day from tommarow, i would usually wait to test till day 12 but bc i have had a mc and bc i have started to get some watery cm this could be an indication that ovulation is going to be early.
my dh thinks that i might of missed my ovulation but i think he is just panaking,clearblue opk are very good, i have been using them in the past and they always are quite accurat.i waited for 3hours and 30 mins to do the test in the afternoon as meny test say not to do the test first thing in the morning and it was -negative.
i think i should wait for at least 1 more day just to be on the safe side, i know i have not yet ovulated and once we start to bd we will do it every outher day so that we have more of a chance.
this is my plan:-
-first thing in the morning do the bbt
-then do the ovulation test in the morning [anytime of the day for clearblue]
-if the opk says +then plan to bd in the next few hours
-if the opk says -then to continue charting bbt,taking folic acid and will do the ovulation test again on sunday.

 

[millymolly]

Hi again

Sorry I can't help with OPK but you are right about cm.
You are most fertile when it is wet, slippery and stretchy. Try to bd as much as you can when this happens as your BBT will only show in hindsight when you have OV by a temp shift (>0.2 degrees or more for three days at least). You will then only be fertile for approx 24 hours after that first higher temp so that is why I focus on cm and cervix indicators to see when fertile to bd before OV rather than after. (I record my temps just to look back and see if I am OV and on which day) It can be quite complicated doing fertility charts and takes a while to become familiar with your own body and the changes each cycle and interpreting them. If you want to find out more there are a few good books by Zita West, Jane Knight, Dr M Glenville and there are NFP teachers also!

Temps can be affected by stress, illness, alcohol etc so based on what I have read, experts don't recommend temp alone to indicate fertile time and a few books dismiss temps as a way to find out fertile time because temps can be affected by so many variables.
One of my books shows statistics on chances of conception based on temp shift... Only 7% of PG occur within the 24 hours following OV whereas 93% occur during the 5 days before your temp goes up and the highest chance is two days before temp shift.


PLEASE NOTE.. I'm not an expert on NFP just someone who has used NFP for a few years both as contraception and to help TTC. Apologies to go on...it is just because this subject fascinates me!

I hope that you get your soon

xxx

 

[shockd&amazed]

Hi sorry for your loss and hope you get your BFP very soon.
I got preg exactly four weeks after a m/c. I took the first day of full flow of my m/c as day one of my period and treated it the same way.
I got my BFP exactly four weeks later.
Good luck!XXX

 

[baba123]

thanks so much millymolly and shockdamazed.

Just to let you girls know that the OPK tests are still unfortunately showing negative

But I'm not worried as millymolly is absolutely spot on. Today for me would be classed as day 12 from my AF CD1. I have heavy CM discharge and from this sign i think i am about to ovulate on day 13 or 14 as i expected. Rather than take a risk of missing my OV with the OPKs, i've decided to go for an attack on DH today and do this tomorrow and the day after.

What do you girls think?

 

[passengerrach]

same here shocked and amazed

 

[passengerrach]

good luck baba hope u fall soon xxx

 

[millymolly]

Hi Baba,

Good luck.....I have just been to see a fertility expert and she says despite all the info out there in all the books and web sites the best advice is to stay relaxed and stress free and try and 'get on with life', we can get too 'bogged down' with TTC so she said just focus on the following:

1. stay stress free
2. take your pre conceive vitamins and minerals
3. have a healthy diet
4. limit your alcohol and caffeine
5. plenty of sex!

Go for it girl!..... I hope you get your soon!

x

 

[baba123]

thankyou for the good advice, that is what i have been trying to do for the past few days but its very hard as most of my family members are going away for the next 3 weeks and i have been very busy helping them do the paking and wisiting outher family and friends before they go.
today all i have been doing is relxeing and watching tv.
all i intend to do is to keep my feet up and do nothing for at least 3 weeks and if i get a bfp then it will be dh doing all the work for sure.

 

[baba123]

can someone please help, im in the tww and yet had no major symptons but last night just before i went to bed i was so dizzy and everytime i looked at the walls in my bed room i thought they spinning around me that is how bad it was.

i thought i was going to die,i had shortness of breath , feeling sick[but could not vomit] and my head was killing with pain. this lasted for at least one hour.

just before i got dizzy i was helping mu dh to sort out the carpet in the hall way and i thought i must of got an elargic reaction to the underlear of the carpet but im telling you it was very bad i have never experianced anything like this before.

this morning i feel much better like as though notting ever happened, i just feel a little tyered and i dont feel like doing anything.

has someone been through this and did you get a bfp???

would love to know

 

[millymolly]

Hi,
I have felt dizzy and tired at the beginning of pregnancy before but it could be a number of things, not necessarily pregnancy related. You normally won't get symptoms until you have missed your period as the hormone levels are not high enough before this time to cause any symptoms. However, you always hear stories about some women who know/feel pregnant even before they miss their AF

Good luck and take it easy!

 

[baba123]

just to up-date you all, i am in my tww and so far i have had no symptons unlike last time i had all the symptons of pg and i think it has not worked for me this time round.
i will find out on the 4th of augest so im keeping my fingers crossed,the thing that upsets me is that i have not eaven had one sympton at all if only.
so if someone knows of any small [miner]sympton, it will be a major help to me to put my mind at rest.
thankyou

 

[lillys_mummy]

i ov'd two weeks after my mc and am now on 1ww

 

[baba123]

hi, it looks like i have not got the bfp this time round, i hae not done any hptests but i can tell bc i do not have any pg symptons .
as to last time just before i had an early mc i knew i was pg bc i had all the pg symptons and i just knew i was going to get a bfp but what i did not know that i was going to get the bfn in the 6th week. SO SAD
oh well all i can do now is to keep temping and keep an eye on the cm.
good luck to all

 

[todteach]

"i thought i was going to die,i had shortness of breath , feeling sick[but could not vomit] and my head was killing with pain. this lasted for at least one hour."

This seems like a sympton to me. Before I got my bfp (pregnancy unfortunately ended in miscarriage at 3 months), I had lots of symptoms. Lightheadedness was def one of them. As were: migraines, nausea, feeling tired, upset stomach (felt like af was coming), rumbling stomach, heightened sense of smell, and a canker sore (which i had never experienced before). All before my bfp.

Good luck hun. Keep us posted.

 

[annsland]

I know this is not the norm, however, I just recently got pregnant after miscarriage. 2 days after I stopped bleeding, I got pregnant. I know it defies science, but it happened. So, just be careful all! I have read that there is research that states our fertility can sometimes increase just after miscarriage. I am proof of that.

 

[MrsJD]

You are really fertile after a mc! This happened to me in January!

Good luck and hope it's a sticky one!

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